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Abu Mami
05-26-2002, 03:29 AM
As some of you may have noticed from my posts in other threads, I'm considering another dedicated server. My short list of providers in no particular order was:
- Nocster
- FDCServers
- Rackshack

Rackshack was originally on the list since they probably start out on everybody's list because of their great prices. Anyhow, I was looking for a bit more help this time and Rackshack eventually dropped off the list.

Now for my dilemma... I can't decide between Nocster and FCDServers. Matthew (also Jason) of Nocster, and Petr of FDCServers have both been fantastic! Each time I think I've arrived at a decision, the other guy comes up with something that makes me flip flop.

Both have good reputations on WHT. Both are really great when it comes to pre-sales support. They've been patient, very informative, and prompt in their replies. This in spite of the fact that I'm afraid that I've made myself into a real pest. Both are so good that I keep coming up with more questions in order to find something that will convince me which one to go with.

As I mentioned in another post, I'm sure that no matter which one I choose I'll be happy with. And I'm also certain that I'll be sorry about not going with the other guy. Unfortunately there is always a winner and a loser. Seems like I'll be a winner in any case.

All my problems should be of this type. Thanks to Matthew and Petr for customer relations the way it should be.

clocker1996
05-26-2002, 04:22 AM
If they are both good, just pick one and go for it, IF you can't loose either way, then it doesn't matter what you pick

BurstNET
05-26-2002, 04:27 AM
EDIT: SNIPPED PROMOTIONAL CRAP.

smash
05-26-2002, 04:34 AM
Hi,

I ordered from FDCservers last week and I am still waiting for my server. So far I already had a few issues with Petr. I don't want to get into the details yet, I'll post a full review once I'll have my server ready.

All I can say is that I am not impressed by the way my order has been handled so far, I'll be able to tell you if they are worth it or not once I'll get access to my server.

Abu Mami
05-26-2002, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by clocker1996
If they are both good, just pick one and go for it, IF you can't loose either way, then it doesn't matter what you pick Well, it's not as simple as that. After all, most things in life are compromises. Nocster offers the CP/WHM option for a really good price. My main use for the box isn't for selling hosting, but this was something I wanted to get into. I was planning on offering web services (hosting, design, apps, etc). The control panel will really simplify my life, but I was originally planning on handling the hosting details by hand (along with Webmin). BUT, since they're offering this feature at such a good price, I thought to myself "why not?". Likewise, FDCServers has other features that appeal to me. It's all a matter of what I feel are my priorities. So, that means I have to think a lot, and take Aspirin at 4 hour intervals to ease my headache :)

Abu Mami
05-26-2002, 05:15 AM
BTW clocker1996, you'll learn about compromise when you're married (if you aren't yet). My wife and I have good arrangement. I make the important decisions, and she takes care of everything else - including deciding on what's important and what's not.

panopticon
05-26-2002, 06:04 AM
I would personally choose Nocster if RackShack is not on your list anymore. Both RackShack and Nocster have multiple connections. I would be worried to have a server in a datacenter with only a cogent line - I am very glad that cogent is around, but they do still have some growing pains. Part-cogent is no problem, but all-cogent or all any provider which hasn't proven a long track record of very good uptime (and even then) is not so great.

shanda
05-26-2002, 07:09 AM
I'm just curious as to whether or not you considered Rackspace, and what, if anything, led you to not put them on your list? Those guys are great and have walked me through problems at 2am so I know they exist.

Abu Mami
05-26-2002, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by shanda
I'm just curious as to whether or not you considered Rackspace, and what, if anything, led you to not put them on your list? Those guys are great and have walked me through problems at 2am so I know they exist. What are ya' tryin' to do to me? Cause an increase in my aspirin intake?

Seriously, I took a look at them as they have a great reputation. But they sort of dropped off my list early on because they're too rich for my blood. I'm looking for something in the $100 (+/-) range and they don't have anything in this range. Also, their $200 Linux box is much less powerful than the two options I'm pondering right now.

wired1
05-26-2002, 07:31 AM
I would have to say that if you are going to be doing any web hosting at all, I would go with Nocster. Its one thing to have your own box on a single cogent line, but I myself wouldnt put customers on it.

KualoJo
05-26-2002, 08:36 AM
I agree - nocster looks like a good offer, go for it.

Incognito
05-26-2002, 10:13 AM
You might also keep in mind that Sean just posted an ad in this non-advertising forum.

Shame, Sean. You know better than that.

mdrussell
05-26-2002, 10:19 AM
You also might like to keep in mind that even though Burst have multiple carriers, their uptime isn't what I'd call good.

pip235
05-26-2002, 10:38 AM
i second that...i have a reseller account on a burstnet box and for over a month the downtime has been horrific.

Hardware has been replaced 2 or 3 times now I think and theres not a week that goes by where something doesn't go wrong at the burst end.

I'd host on a shoebox connected to a dedicated piece of string before I ever got one of their servers.

Tazzman
05-26-2002, 10:58 AM
I'd host on a shoebox connected to a dedicated piece of string before I ever got one of their servers.Sounds like an interesting concept. What OS where planning on running and how fast would the connection be (you'd be using high quality string, I assume) :dunce:

mdrussell
05-26-2002, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Tazzman
Sounds like an interesting concept. What OS where planning on running and how fast would the connection be (you'd be using high quality string, I assume) :dunce:

Alas, the physical qualities of both copper and fiber optic cables mean they are superior to string in terms of communication. :D :rolleyes:

RackMy.com
05-26-2002, 11:27 AM
Keep in mind that BurstNET has been around for a very long time, and our network (...including NOCSTER), has multiple providers. Those are two very important points I think should affect your decision. You may want to do a search from their uptime.

thesmallguyshost
05-26-2002, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
You also might like to keep in mind that even though Burst have multiple carriers, their uptime isn't what I'd call good.

nor after sales support. try waiting days for support to get answered.

thesmallguyshost
05-26-2002, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Abu Mami
What are ya' tryin' to do to me? Cause an increase in my aspirin intake?

Seriously, I took a look at them as they have a great reputation. But they sort of dropped off my list early on because they're too rich for my blood. I'm looking for something in the $100 (+/-) range and they don't have anything in this range. Also, their $200 Linux box is much less powerful than the two options I'm pondering right now.

FDC has had great uptime this past 2 months since they got their power issues fixed. If you want a LOT of bandwidth for no extra charges then FDC is great.

http://webreseller.net have been receiving a lot of good reviews too.

seg fault
05-26-2002, 02:53 PM
Why do people choose their server relative to the software that it comes with?

I think that paying extra per month for a piece of software - or having software eventually make your decision is a strange and interesting thing.

I personally buy my software directly from its maker. That way I know that I actually own it - I dont pay an extra monthly fee for the right to use such software - pay only once off to use it - and know I'm getting a completely legitimate copy.

The only software I worry about is the base operating system. :D

thesmallguyshost
05-26-2002, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by hosticle
Why do people choose their server relative to the software that it comes with?

I think that paying extra per month for a piece of software - or having software eventually make your decision is a strange and interesting thing.

I personally buy my software directly from its maker. That way I know that I actually own it - I dont pay an extra monthly fee for the right to use such software - pay only once off to use it - and know I'm getting a completely legitimate copy.

The only software I worry about is the base operating system. :D

Because almost always companies offering servers get discounts because of buying the software (incase of Redhat machines just about exclusively a control panel) in quantity.