Hi. We've started a small hostabuse registry where hosts can sign up and put comments about domains/email addresses who have done bad business with them. The database can be queried live from any order form to deny any domain/email listed in the database.

Check it out, hostabuse.elitehosts.com

We will be upgrading it soon to have reasons for listing ie:
Spam
Non-payment/Stolen Card
Illegal Content
IRC
Hack

any others I am missing?

Have a great night.

Have you thought about the legal implications of this?

Whilst your efforts may be for the best, you may in breach of the UK Data Protection Act of 1984 if you include personal / private information about anyone from the UK.

There's also a European wide Data Protection Act of, ISTR, 2000, which covers more than this.

There is already a service like this.

http://hostabuse.com

Originally posted by Newbie
There is already a service like this.

http://hostabuse.com

rumor has it, they arent doing much, ie. not setting up accounts etc.

do a search about them here, and you will see that there are various Legal problems with setting up something like that

hm... then I guess I got ahead of myself then?

How can those email black lists do it then?

Simply put, they can't.

They mainly get by with it because no one of sufficient size and financial resources has been disturbed enough to take action.

The other big difference is: any mention of payments, credit worthiness, etc. falls under a whole additional set of laws which in both the U. S. and the U. K. are quite strict.

Aright, staying up till 3am to hack it and get it done was pointless... add another to the list :)

As they say, the pathway to hell was made with good intentions.

Originally posted by Incognito
Simply put, they can't.

They mainly get by with it because no one of sufficient size and financial resources has been disturbed enough to take action.

The other big difference is: any mention of payments, credit worthiness, etc. falls under a whole additional set of laws which in both the U. S. and the U. K. are quite strict.

Not to disagree with you,
but it is funny, MAPS had to take a draw when they battled a smaller well financed company. they both took towards settlement.

but blacklist by nature are difficult to manage. a proper blacklist must have rules of entry and exit. this way they do not become Illegal.

On USENET, AOL was warned with a (I forgot the name but it's like the black hand of usenet death )

as for personal information posting, there are some big loopholes in the USA, european countries on the otherhand have none.

I would never post more than a first and last name, website and country of the clients if there was a host abuse registry.

Mike

Oh, you can search by domain or email and the comments will say stuff like "didnt' pay" - not their personal information

Originally posted by Incognito
Simply put, they can't.

Sure they can, and they do. It's perfectly legal to block whoever you want, for any reason you choose, from your server(s).

What MAPS, SPEWS, etc do is compile a list of IP's that they personally deny access from, and make thast list available to anyone who wants it. Nothing illegal about that at all.

-Bob

Don't say you weren't warned!

How are you going to protect innocents from malicious additions to your list?

For things like that you need a concrete business plan and a good legal advisor - otherwise you might end up in trouble.

Originally posted by timechange
How are you going to protect innocents from malicious additions to your list?

For things like that you need a concrete business plan and a good legal advisor - otherwise you might end up in trouble.

It's been shotdown already, :( It was a good try though - I wont be going through with it - anyway we would allow people to refute their listing and be removed if the host did not supply sufficient proof. but anyways, its all history now