I have searched the forums and I cannot find anywhere a demo for H-Sphere. Anyone know a company that sells it and also may have information and/or a demo of it.

Why doesn't the h-sphere on psoft's website not work for you?

http://psoft.net/h_sphere_demo_page.html

Peter

^ Double post, see message above ^

I don't understand why people rave about H-Sphere. I checked it out, and it's expensive, doesn't have a file mgr, and the logins on the demo at HSphere's site didn't work either.

Actually, H-Sphere does have a file manager. I believe the demo is down because they are preparing to release new version 2.1. Here is an example of an end-user interface to H-Sphere:

H-Sphere Demo (http://cp.zeonhost.com:8080/psoft/servlet/psoft.hsphere.CP?action=login&ftemplate=design/login.html&login=demouser&password=demouser)

Thank you for that demo... he was saying the cost is prohibitive, how much is it?

The price is mentioned in the site.

Peter

Originally posted by ZeonHost
Actually, H-Sphere does have a file manager. I believe the demo is down because they are preparing to release new version 2.1. Here is an example of an end-user interface to H-Sphere:

H-Sphere Demo (http://cp.zeonhost.com:8080/psoft/servlet/psoft.hsphere.CP?action=login&ftemplate=design/login.html&login=demouser&password=demouser)

Thanks for the demo and correcting me on the no file mgr statement (I didn't see that listed in the features, and it was hard to tell if it had one since I couldn't log in and test a demo. After checking it out for 30-40 mins, here is my fair assessement (I'm comparing it to CPanel because that's the only one I have used at a host so far)...

H-Sphere appears to be in frames. If so, why? I don't care for that feature in CPanel either.

Everything on it is slower to load than CPanel.

I didn't see the following features... webmail filter, ssh, cron jobs, unzip, (though it has compress), change mx records or cgi-wrap. Can they be added with icons?

H-Sphere does appear to allow setting of the sticky bit on files and directories which I think WH Manager also allows, but CPanel doesn't.

I also could not view a file from H-Sphere, but maybe that's because the demo wasn't set up to allow it.

I like the structure of the file mgr on CPanel better, but H-Sphere appears to allow you to select more than one file at a time to copy or move, and I don't think CPanel does.

CK Peter


You know I looked for a price there already, and couldn't find it, which either means that it isn't there, or they really could afford to add some useful navigation... and why is it you feel neccessary to post a message that contains absolutely no useful information. "The price is mentioned in the site." If you didn't want to say or you don't know, then don't reply. "It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and prove yourself." Not my quote, but I thought it was appropriate.

http://www.psoft.net/h_sphere2_pricing.html

You probably couldn't find it because its listed under documentation. Its 4.50 an account.

Originally posted by webwired
CK Peter
You know I looked for a price there already, and couldn't find it, which either means that it isn't there, or they really could afford to add some useful navigation... and why is it you feel neccessary to post a message that contains absolutely no useful information. "The price is mentioned in the site." If you didn't want to say or you don't know, then don't reply. "It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and prove yourself." Not my quote, but I thought it was appropriate.
First of all, thanks for comparing me to a fool. I guess I should react to it, but I don't see how any good would come out of it.

How am I supposed to know that you did look? You didn't say that on your first post.

This is related to general attitude on the forum that I dislike, and it is not directed against you personally. I see people posting, asking for information without looking for it themselves. If you take a look at the hosting software and control panel forum, you will see a laughtable amount of threads asking "is ensim better than plesk" or "ensim vs plesk". Sometimes two or three threads can be on top at the same time. It makes me wonder if people really read (all the previous threads), research (go on to ensim and plesk's demo), or search (the forum archive).

Too often, people post, waiting for hours for a reply, when they could find the answer themselves in a matter of minutes. At the same time, by relying on other people to do their research for them, they waste the times of other people who would be available for other things.

For example, everytime I browse that forum (or any forum for that matter), I often have to make a decision on "should I just click on it that says ensim vs plesk, even though I know that the poster did not do his own research and is relying on other people?". I am not the most active person on this board, but occasionally I do try to help other people. If all my time have to be spent respond to "ensim vs. plesk", "how much is cpanel", "is there unlimited bandwidth?" etc, how can I people who are truly in need of help.

I do apologize if you feel offended. But look, the pricing is right on the page if you click on the h-sphere icon. OK, the info was on the very bottom, but I hope you didn't just give up just because it is not listed on the main page.

Frankly, I am rather disappointed at your conduct as well. I spend much time helping people, even in this case, I specifically alerted you to the fact that pricing IS available. (you didn't think that was a help, but objectively speaking, I did help you by pointing out that pricing is available). And what do I get for all these? I am called a "fool".

Thanks for taking the time to read. Feel free to discuss any flaws in my logic.

Peter

Thank You AdamKD for the link and info.

chrisb,

H-Sphere is not in frames, it's actually just a table with a 100% height (which makes it appear to be in frames). H-Sphere is fairly heavy-weight being a java servlet, if the server is performing other requests (that server does Mail & MySQL as well), it may be a little slower.

As for the additional features, SSH and Cron Jobs are supported, but we disabled them for security purposes in our demo. There is an ability to change MX records, you have to click the EDIT button under a domain's configuration for the DNS records. There is an ability to expand a zip file from the File Manager. You'd have to make some heavy modifications to add those features as icons to the start page.

You can view a file from the file manager, you just have to toggle the mode in the bottom-right corner.

HSphere is a true Jewel in my opinion. What people dont realize is that the demo you see is viewed and edited by thousands of people. Its not administrated and is left with loads of test accounts and different test operations running. When you have a copy of hsphere for your own you will notice it is not slow, and once you get the hang of it.. its easy to use. They provide excellent documentation and it has every feature that WHM has. Ever heard the term looks can be decieving? well thats the case of hsphere. It is as complex as it looks.. but not nearly as complicated as it looks.

And also.. HSPHERE is not as expensive as youd think. You can buy from webauthorities.com in blocks of control panels for great prices.
I believe it was 50 control panels for $25 or something like that.

Originally posted by SwiftyHost
And also.. HSPHERE is not as expensive as youd think. You can buy from webauthorities.com in blocks of control panels for great prices.
I believe it was 50 control panels for $25 or something like that. But isn't that a monthly charge? The $450 for 100 charge direct frm Psoft is a one-off fee (plus 20% of that annually for maint and upgrades).

Originally posted by SwiftyHost
And also.. HSPHERE is not as expensive as youd think. You can buy from webauthorities.com in blocks of control panels for great prices.
I believe it was 50 control panels for $25 or something like that.

Their website has 50 users for $20. But it seems like you have to have servers with them as well. Or do they allow you to buy 'em for offsite as well?

Hal

H-sphere licensing is a 1 time fee per control panel you setup. Not monthly ;) .

We have used it for a little over 3 months now and overall it seems like a good product. I don't agree with how some things are setup and worded (making it harder on both the admin and end user) but ive gotten used to it.

Also, if you are the type that likes to go in and manually change things to make them work your way, then h-sphere is most likely not for you. This has taken some getting used to for me, because hsphere completely reconfigures your entire machine to run the "hsphere way" :mad:

Originally posted by hbouma


Their website has 50 users for $20. But it seems like you have to have servers with them as well. Or do they allow you to buy 'em for offsite as well?

Hal

From what I know, this is a monthly fee. However, this is just for interal rental from webauthorities. Mike (webaruthorities) is not offering it for external license.

Peter

Hey Chris, from an ex-avid CPanel user; H-Sphere rocks. It rocks so much that when I last had the pleasure (?) of picking a host I based my final choice on the CP. Aight, some may argue that it's not the best argument, but most reseller accounts are pretty similar these days save for the panels. HS is great so far, I couldn't be more pleased with it. It beats both WHM and CP4 hands down if you ask me.

Hmm... </shameless plug>. ;)

I would have to agree. The features far surpass any other panel available today.

You have to remember. Whne you buy it you are getting a complate billing system and support desk. The other control panels don't offer that to my knowledge. Even if they do it is usually some cobbled together piece of junk that they bought from some other company and tried to make it work.

Its not perfect but its as close as you can come today.