I received this email a total of 3 times today. :rolleyes:


If you are interested in a small quantity of regular hosting accounts we have
available, please go here:

http://www.cyberwings.com/hosting/insideoffer/

We only have a very few of these accounts available, PayPal preferred, and they
are being setup using our new automated setup tools. We were able to setup
300-400 accounts yesterday using our new setup tools and we anticipate our
backlog to be drastically reduced, very quickly.

Cyberwings MAY be going back into the INDIVIDUAL PLAN 1-10 hosting business
during the month of June when we have our 40 new servers online, our backlog
totally caught up (7-10 days from now), and more staff on board.

We're getting there. But for now, here are some accounts if you are interested
in grabbing them. Let's get Cyberwings rolling again!

Shawn J. White
CEO, Cyberwings.com



Cyberwings, spammers? Heck, I don't even know how they a hold of my e-mail address. :confused:

I don't know what this guy is trying to show.

He is really trying to be somebody, but I don't think he can fix it, well maybe, but that would be hard.

After I read their forums, not many happy people.

:flamethr: :spam:

Did you see their plan packages?

15 mb of space, 6GB transfer, 3$ a year?


That is alot of hits to take up the transfer. :)

Zach

I believe the only way this person is staying in buisness is by getting more and more customers.

"ALL AYW HOSTING PACKAGES ORDERED *IMMEDIATELY* (this sale will go on until this text is removed from our website, order now!), will receive their CHOICE of 50% more Space or 50% more BANDWIDTH on their accounts."

I just hope, and that in the future we don't see cyberwings go down, its going to be tragic.

Ohh boy...

I guess its time to place my bet.

I just signed up with cyberwings, couldn't be happier. The prices are unbeatable, just have to wait about a week or two for your account to be setup. I also got the "spam" doesn't really bother me, I don't see what the big deal is. That's the only email I have received from them in 2 weeks other than regarding my hosting account. I'm sure if you sent them an email asking them to remove you fromt he mailing list they would do so.

Originally posted by goPHAT
I just signed up with cyberwings, couldn't be happier. The prices are unbeatable, just have to wait about a week or two for your account to be setup. I also got the "spam" doesn't really bother me, I don't see what the big deal is. That's the only email I have received from them in 2 weeks other than regarding my hosting account. I'm sure if you sent them an email asking them to remove you fromt he mailing list they would do so.

1. :eek::eek::eek:
2. "Just" have to wait about a week or two for your account to be setup? :eek::eek::eek: You obviously haven't shopped around...
3. The big deal is, Alanis doesn't seem to have a hosting account with Cyberwings, so it's spam.
4. Spamming is illegal.

2 week turn around for sales
4 week turn around for support?

:)

Zach

Hmm, sounds familiar - "Hey Jim, this punch is great...wow, this is the coolest cult ever." goPhat will be back here goBitchin when the other 8000 sites on their server start dragging theirs down. Might taste great initially, but expect a quick death,

what really concerns me is how they got my e-mail address. I don't even check it all that much because few people have it - it's al alternate hotmail address that I used when my aol account was not working - just 2 or 3 offline friends. I mainly use it for my webhosting accounts - both of them. One is a company that is hosted by the company of a GOOD friend and I know she would not give out or sell my address - and then theres the other company. My question is...how did cyberwings get my address or do i already know? :confused:

Cyberwings does business in a way I have never seen before if you want to order a reseller account the waiting time is 2 weeks to 2 months I was wondering why then I logged in to their chatroom and ask a sales rep he told me "Shawn handles all orders personally and he travels alot" so I asked him if Shawn is away for 4 months do I have to wait 4 months to have my account activated and he said "Shawn handles all orders personally and he travels alot"

I feel that business is:

A) The client pays
B) Business creates account
C) This takes 2 hours max

if business is carefull with fraud then it will be:

A) client pays
B) business verifies credit card
C) Business creates account
D) Max time should be 2 business days.

I don't see my self paying for an account and 14 days later getting it setup just because the CEO wants to doit himself just doesn't make sense to me.

wow, such hostility. " goPhat will be back here goBitchin when the other 8000 sites on their server start dragging theirs down." Didn't mean to start an argument, just pointing out that Alanis could probably get his email removed pretty easily if that's what he/she was worried about. I understand that you get what you pay for, and for $2.10 for a year of hosting I don't expect much.

My reseller account was setup within 2 days, personal nameservers and everything.

I can't complain.

Originally posted by HostInspect
I believe the only way this person is staying in buisness is by getting more and more customers.

I just hope, and that in the future we don't see cyberwings go down, its going to be tragic.

I guess its time to place my bet.

In a pyramid, the earliest investors are paid off by funds of the later investors. Such things can only last as long as the rate of growth increases, which of course can't go on forever.

"Cyberwings SPAM Policy

CYBERWINGS utilizes the latest SPAM fighting technologies to prevent our SMTP servers from being abused. We also have a very strict and swift policy on clients who DO send SPAM via our servers. Cyberwings has a VERY strong policy on SPAM - immediate termination, no warnings, and no refunds. ALL accounts you have with us will be terminated if you send any SPAM from ANY account you have with us. You will no longer be a welcome Cyberwings customer after you have been caught spamming! Cyberwings WILL PURSUE LEGAL ACTION. Thank you for helping us support the fight against SPAM!"

Originally posted by big_smooth
"Cyberwings SPAM Policy

CYBERWINGS utilizes the latest SPAM fighting technologies to prevent our SMTP servers from being abused. We also have a very strict and swift policy on clients who DO send SPAM via our servers. Cyberwings has a VERY strong policy on SPAM - immediate termination, no warnings, and no refunds. ALL accounts you have with us will be terminated if you send any SPAM from ANY account you have with us. You will no longer be a welcome Cyberwings customer after you have been caught spamming! Cyberwings WILL PURSUE LEGAL ACTION. Thank you for helping us support the fight against SPAM!"

that's interesting. you know, they should follow their own rules. :o

Originally posted by goPHAT
just pointing out that Alanis could probably get his email removed pretty easily if that's what he/she was worried about


Lemme guess an opt-out list? :D


. I understand that you get what you pay for, and for $2.10 for a year of hosting I don't expect much.

If I was you I would pray every night my site would be up the next morning. Just my 0.02

Their Reseller servers have the following config:

AMD AThlon Tbird 1.0gh, 1gb RAM (1 GM MAX) 10mbps pipe

and they cram 40 - 60 resellers per server you judge for your self.


Ds3TecH

Originally posted by Alanis


that's interesting. you know, they should follow their own rules. :o

"Cyberwings WILL PURSUE LEGAL ACTION. "

Hmm, maybe they should take legal action on themselves. :D

Originally posted by avara


"Cyberwings WILL PURSUE LEGAL ACTION. "

Hmm, maybe they should take legal action on themselves. :D

That's not such a bad idea. :stickout

They will take legal action against themselves as soon as their legal person get's in. He travels a lot so expect it in 2-3 years.

Originally posted by marksy
They will take legal action against themselves as soon as their legal person get's in. He travels a lot so expect it in 2-3 years.

That's a long vacation. lol

:cartman:

Originally posted by HostInspect


That's a long vacation. lol

:cartman:

Not really, but he is still at law school and it isn't looking too good. :D

Every email we send is sent to either:

a) Our self-subscription mailing list service run by Constant Contact (www.cyberwings.com/keepupdated)

b) Our forums members who listed valid email addresses at forums.cyberwings.com

c) Our clientele, past, present, who left valid email addresses on file with us, and wanted to be kept up to date on Cyberwings.

People who do not wish to be informed of happenings at CW can easily opt-OUT at www.cyberwings.com/keepupdated/ - Simple. If you opt-OUT, and would also like to have your email address removed from your billing account and put into non-update status, just let billing@cyberwings.com know. Funny, we haven't received any complaints about this email we sent ... from anyone, so why do you feel the need to post here for something that can easily be dealt with just by OPTING OUT?

Shawn

Originally posted by DS3tech
Their Reseller servers have the following config:

AMD AThlon Tbird 1.0gh, 1gb RAM (1 GM MAX) 10mbps pipe

and they cram 40 - 60 resellers per server you judge for your self.


Ds3TecH

Not sure where you got your figures but Shawn has repeatedly said in his chat room that he puts 30-40 resellers per server....so that's about half what you state. In fact he just said it again this morning in answer to a question:

Regular servers hold about 500-600 domains
AYW servers hold about 50-70 AYW accounts
Reseller servers hold about 30-40 Reseller Accounts

During March and April Cyberwings added 7,913 sites. Not bad for a company you all are predicting is going under!

Cyberwings has also purchased 40 new servers recently and they are being built and put into commision as quickly as possible. Says a lot about the growth he is predicting....and the financial stability of his company if he can make that large of an outlay all at once.....oh and not be in debt.

Perhaps the problem is that some of you are his competitors and you're a little upset by the amount of business he is taking away from you. So bashing him might make potential customers look to you instead. That's ok, though, Cyberwings has all the business they need....and when Shawn makes his announcement soon about the future happenings of Cyberwings that will only continue to grow.............all I can say is well...don't quit your day jobs gentlemen, lol.

I'm not an employee of Cyberwings, but I do volunteer on the chat room to help out. And I have several plans with Cyberwings, on a couple different servers, none of which have had any real problems. Just saying that in case it matters to any of you.


Jan

Hey Jan, how much support time does 7000+ domains take? How much BW? How much does that cost? How many times have we seen the same thing here? You think cyberwings is doing something new and innovative and people bash it because we're jealous? Time and time again this model has stormed in and stormed out. You can listen to the bazillion yrs of experience from hosts who have survived yr after yr, or listen to the one guy who will buck the trend. If cyberwings makes it, sensational, more power to them...but past experience and economics would dictate otherwise.
and I doubt most of the hosts here would want the type of client who pays $1.50 a month - they obviously aren't real serious about their business.

Originally posted by marksy
Hey Jan, how much support time does 7000+ domains take? How much BW? How much does that cost? How many times have we seen the same thing here? You think cyberwings is doing something new and innovative and people bash it because we're jealous? Time and time again this model has stormed in and stormed out. You can listen to the bazillion yrs of experience from hosts who have survived yr after yr, or listen to the one guy who will buck the trend. If cyberwings makes it, sensational, more power to them...but past experience and economics would dictate otherwise.
and I doubt most of the hosts here would want the type of client who pays $1.50 a month - they obviously aren't real serious about their business.

As I've said, I'm not an employee, so I don't have figures for your questions. Actually what I've seen though is that the small webhosting plans are mostly people new to all this, many with this being their first webpage. But they come into the chat for support, and the techs are there but so are a lot of us regulars, volunteers, who walk them thru changing DNS, uploading, setting mail, even designing. One of the formerly volunteer now employee is even creating a website just to answer all those questions. So initially it does take a little support, but since there are more volunteers than employees in the chat room, it's not costing much since we aren't paid. And some of us have lots of years of experience, and some of us just finished setting up our own first accounts. I have been to many other hosting companies and I think THIS is what sets Cyberwings apart, the community spirit of assistance and ideas.

But you're right, most companies wouldn't want to bother with the people who can only afford a few bucks to get started....but you would be absolutely amazed at how many of those $3 accounts are turning into the more cost effective accounts because people get excited about having figured out how to do this and want more....bigger and better. Not unlike years past on the web where you get a "free" account and then upgrade to a paid account later....but since you came in on my site under the free account, you buy with me later. Grocery stores do it all the time and call it a loss leader ...get ya in the door and enjoy our services/products and you'll stay and spend more money. I don't think this is what Shawn has set up to do....or even intended....but it IS what is happening. Several of the people who originally bought those under $10 accounts are even starting to buy up the monthly fee reseller accounts, which of course ARE good money makers. Though it does seem that some of the resellers seem to come in with the most complicated questions that often require the paid employee tech time. But that is to be expected of course and why those are more expensive.

No one can predict the future and hosting company's go under regularly.....but Cyberwings has a lot of growth and the foundation to support it. So that does bode well for them, even if you don't agree with their methods. The way of doing business is certainly not cookie cutter to other hosting companys. Maybe that is bad in some ways, but probably that is good in many more.

Once they get the tools in place to speed up with set up time instead of doing it all by hand, their growth can multiple even more and the major complaint will be done with.

I guess the future will be the only way to know for sure.

Jan

Originally posted by marksy
and I doubt most of the hosts here would want the type of client who pays $1.50 a month - they obviously aren't real serious about their business.

I have a small observation ....not all people can afford to pay the big bucks when they start out and are not sure if they want to spend the big bucks on some thing which might not work out...accusing the $1.50 hosting people of not being serious just shows how commited a person is to support all accounts...Even if I graduate to a bigger account...I will never consider such a host again ....

If you really think you'd get the same level of support for $1.50 vs $10 I'd ask where you're getting your stuff. Maybe in a small host for a little while, but not for long. Economics, economics, economics. I'm not trying to be elitist here, but if all you can afford is a $15/yr site - your odds of making it successful are pretty slim. But if your goal is a small family site or whatever, have at it.

I am sorry if I was harsh...But i started with a closer to a 5 dollar monthly site and have graduated to the 10 dollar site.....I stayed with on because my hosts treated me the same ....ofcourse i am was not/am not expecting reseller treatment..

Originally posted by marksy
If you really think you'd get the same level of support for $1.50 vs $10 I'd ask where you're getting your stuff. Maybe in a small host for a little while, but not for long. Economics, economics, economics. I'm not trying to be elitist here, but if all you can afford is a $15/yr site - your odds of making it successful are pretty slim. But if your goal is a small family site or whatever, have at it.

Actually, I'm one of those that started out with what was the largest hosting plan they offered, yes for a family photo site for the relatives to see how my kids are growing, lol. My husband and I also bought a couple more of that plan for our hobbies and other fun things. We've since learned so much from the other people at Cyberwings (the techs, but also a lot from the customers) to take a stab at putting my home business up on the web as well. So I'm one of those that started out as what some of you might have considered a customer not worth having and now hopefully Cyberwings will be making a bit of money off my account. Do I ever expect to be Cyberwings top ten customers....nope, don't want it, but the help their community gave me at least has me motivated to take an at home business and make it an online one.

But every business has a different target market....I guess it's best for Cyberwings that some of you don't want the little accounts, it means that Cyberwings can find it's niche. Heck, wasn't too many years ago that there was a little search engine company that started offering free email accounts......you know, Yahoo.

LOL...

I really do wish all of your businesses well, but perhaps you could do it without bashing other businesses. For some people, like me, bashing another company makes you look worse than the company you bashed. Many of the bashings seem to be based on supposition not facts.

Originally posted by Jan
I really do wish all of your businesses well, but perhaps you could do it without bashing other businesses. For some people, like me, bashing another company makes you look worse than the company you bashed. Many of the bashings seem to be based on supposition not facts.

I wholeheartedly agree. I have bought a few hosting plans from cyberwings for small personal sites, and am in the process of setting them up.

If I was running a business site, the standards would be different, but CW will be fine for my sites. Maybe a year from now the whole operation will crash and burn (I hope not!) Considering some of the larger companies that have died in the past two years, it doesn't really seem that size or the price of your service provides any guarantee.

MN :D

Originally posted by Cyberwings
Every email we send is sent to either:

a) Our self-subscription mailing list service run by Constant Contact (www.cyberwings.com/keepupdated)

b) Our forums members who listed valid email addresses at forums.cyberwings.com

c) Our clientele, past, present, who left valid email addresses on file with us, and wanted to be kept up to date on Cyberwings.


Shawn

None of the above apply. If you had the entirety of the thread, you would know I do NOT have an account with you, nor am I member of your forum or mailing list. The e-mail it was sent to is a new e-mail address that I recently used to sign up with my host. And I don't see the point in asking myself to be removed - if I don't even use the email address except for hosting matters. (rarely)

Bashing other companies huh?

Today we recieved a complaint from a client we have that closed an account with cyberwings, and asked them/you guys for a refund.

I don't know who did, but asked who he was switching to, told us our name, what do the Cyberwings staff say?

That we are YOUR resellers? Ohh, com on...we didn't take it very well, for a so-called company be falsifying information like that. I went to see in the chat room, what was up...seems like alot of kiss ups in there.

Not sure what is wrong with you guys over there, nor it matters, but lying is one thing, that we wish no to tolerate.

Either fix your act, or just, just leave, this isn't the trust you should be giving your peers/clients.

Thanks.

Now I am off to E3.

-Brandon De Hart

I think the cacophony of Cyberwings bashing must stop.
it's al alternate hotmail address that I used when my aol account was not working - just 2 or 3 offline friends. I mainly use it for my webhosting accounts - both of them. One is a company that is hosted by the company of a GOOD friend and I know she would not give out or sell my address - and then theres the other company.
A person who seems to have no control over where his (or her) email ID could have propagated should not complain about an unjustifyably alleged spamming. For all you know, the email id could have been used to subscribe to the Cyberwing's updates!
And I have 2 sites hosted with Cyberwings and I have my email id's thrown all around their database and forums, but I didn't get evn a single email on their promotion until I subscribed to their updates. They refund your money pronto the moment you ask for it. I am telling this from my own personal experience. I do not know who that Shawn is but he is a trail blazer and a la computer hardware prices, the hosting-fleecing must crash and more Shawns are needed to usher in that paradigm!
They are professional, personal, straightforward, honest and above all human!
May their tribe grow!
Cheers!
S.K

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