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digitalhost
05-19-2002, 11:22 PM
Exactly as the heading says.

If you use large amounts of bandwidth,

Expect me to undercut others.

Have an account for spamming, Porno, Warz, etc.

Do not apply.

Most posts here are just cutting prices to the bone, you will end up burning, not have reserve funds to upgrade your equipment, not be able to look after your good customers long term. I have spent over 20 years in business and always made excellent profits by:

Providing high level customer support,
Using high quality equipment,
Fair prices which will reflect true costs of running the business to give long term ongoing support and uptime of your website.

My last business allowed me to cut my customer base by 25% and increase profit by 50% giving me more time to service good customers and improve the business.

Can't be done in hosting you say, too competitive. Wrong, good business principles apply across the board.

If you are genuinely looking for a webhost who can offer quality hosting with support long term, please email sales@hostcp3.com


Thankyou.

www.hostcp3.com

No unlimited bandwidth.
No unlimited storage.

StarGate
05-19-2002, 11:31 PM
...the title really got me in here :P

But seriously: Very nice post... couldn't agree more. Agressive, progressive...nice! If I was looking for hosting I would check you out :)

namelessguy
05-19-2002, 11:40 PM
Just a quick question:
What's wrong with porn?
From the tone of your post, I seriously doubt it's an ethical concern, is it a resource issue?

sbo
05-20-2002, 01:48 AM
Hear, hear!

The voice of reason.

No unlimited.
No overselling.


That's the old school.

Angel78
05-20-2002, 05:35 AM
20 years in business ? So you are the one of the ARPANET workers right? And it took you 19 yrs to register a domain name? hehehe sorry simply couldn't resist, but i fully give you right about offers placed here = 300 gb 1200 mb = 9,95 and if you pay yearly 7,99 $ :)

Walter
05-20-2002, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by Angel78
20 years in business ? So you are the one of the ARPANET workers right?

:)
He said "I have spent over 20 years in business", he didn't say "I have spent over 20 years in hosting business".

namelessguy
05-20-2002, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by Walter


:)
He said "I have spent over 20 years in business", he didn't say "I have spent over 20 years in hosting business".

Maybe he means 20 years since his daddy bought him his first computer. By that reasoning, I could say I have 20 years in the business.

digitalhost
05-23-2002, 09:22 AM
that's right 5 applied for my no unlimited hosting plans.

one customer I picked up from local business and another who could see my reasoning.

Robert appreciate your comment, thanks.

Walter yes your correct 20 years in business not all hosting,

nameless guy, your wrong!

Porn is an ethical subject with me and I can tell you this, just like a leach, porn drains the passion love and committment a man has for his wife and family, it destroys and twists the minds of youth who become societys rapists and criminals, don't think so, think again.

I did a year in youth ministry and I do know a little and can continue this discussion off forum if you wish, to know more about this addiction.

Oh another subject, the way the hosting business is going with the cutting to the bone I envisage many small hosting companies closing down and leaving customers websites out in the cold, if your a customer who needs a long term comittment from your hosting company and agree to our terms, please feel free to contact us.

thanks.

namelessguy
05-23-2002, 10:13 PM
Great.
That's a position I can respect. I don't personally agree with it, but if everyone agreed with every one of my opinions, the world wouldn't be any fun at all. It's nice to know someone's taking a passionate stance on something.

My thought on the subject is that people give porn and other media way too much credit in this country. I for example am hapily married and have no desire to have anything to do with porn at the moment. I do think however that it is a viable internet sector as long as nothing illegal is being done with it. Intelectual property and international law tends to be a problem with those kinds of sites on occasion. By default, I assumed it was a resource issue, because those sites consume a ton of bandwidth. But if you customers pay their bill on time and don't brake the law, I don't see the problem with it.

But staying true to what you believe in is very admirable, I think. And if you have the integrity to turn down honest money... you're a better man than I.

Good luck bro.
-Joe

digitalhost
05-23-2002, 10:41 PM
appreciate your reply and courteous manner, a good discussion for sure,

my strength is from a stronger place and I will never be a better man than you but maybe a forgiven man would be more true.

below is a story which I am embarrassed about but would like to share

I have learnt the hard way and at 36 I became a Christian and for the last 8 years have struggled with issues such as this, I am struggle daily with all things and especially the desire for money just like most people.

about 4 years ago God said to me if I serve him for a year at doing Youth ministry and forget about money he would see me through financially for life, so off I went to college and sold off my business where I was earning about $120 an hour.

I used the money to buy some shares in the stockmarket and put most of it in a company I felt would go well. this was November 1998, I started college in 1999 and went well at first, we travelled as a group into remote regions helping youth and people with alcohol,drugs and emotional problems, we returned to college for 8 months of study and then it started, I would start missing college and staying at home to play the market, I bought and sold those shares a hundred times and eventually sold in July October 1999 them at a loss.

as the year finished and my half hearted attempt at studies came to an end I then looked at the situation,

It was January 2001 when I graduated and about that week those shares which I had owned hit an all time high of $8.00 which I bought at 15c.

I had previously bought about 250,000 of them, you do the figures.

So now as I work my way back I do not have one bone in my body which could or ever want to do anything which is against what the bible says and never cheat anybody.
my strength comes from Jesus Christ himself.

Its no longer I live, but Christ who lives in me.

mwatkins
05-23-2002, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by namelessguy
Maybe he means 20 years since his daddy bought him his first computer. By that reasoning, I could say I have 20 years in the business.

:D

Hey, don't knock those of us who *have* been in computing for 20 years.

They do exist. Some of them even do web work LOL

I was doing development on an IBM mainframe 20 years ago; bought one of the first IBM PC's available in Vancouver, followed by a Televideo, a CP/M machine, an Apple Lisa, ... well I could go on. Not long after the mainframe was decommissioned and I spent most of the rest of my career in PC's, the large scale *nix world, and consulting.

Yikes, feelin' old now.

:D

Techark
05-24-2002, 12:11 AM
what old is. I owned one of the very first personal computers every built. Yes the famous one with the blinking leds no KB and programmend it by flip switches. Then Bill Gates made us all a paper tape which had basic on it, we were in heaven.
From there it was TRS 80 with 4 meg of ram and a cassette recorder for a disk drive. Then the birth of the 8008 PC a real computer. :D

It's all still in my X wifes storage somewhere I think. :mad:

Dang I am old... :blush:


Monte

ToastyX
05-24-2002, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by hostcp3
Walter yes your correct 20 years in business not all hosting,

nameless guy, your wrong!

you're

Samuel
05-24-2002, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by Monte
... there it was TRS 80 with 4 meg of ram and a cassette recorder for a disk drive. Dang I am old... :blush:

lol...... yep

a line a grey monsters is where I spent my time at 12 years old...

4 years before that we were flight simming it on an apple which consisted of lines only, and a dot here and there.

Now I spend time here:

www.hitechcreations.com

namelessguy
05-24-2002, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by ToastyX


you're

Sorry toastmeister, I don't speak ==. Do you mind restating in english?

Samuel
05-24-2002, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by namelessguy


Sorry toastmeister, I don't speak ==. Do you mind restating in english?
Sarcasm, great.

You're = You are
Your = implies possesion.

namelessguy
05-25-2002, 01:13 PM
Yes bro,
but unless the rules of written and spoken language have changed dramtically since last I checked, you or you're cannot constitute a sentance.

Gadgy
05-25-2002, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by namelessguy
Yes bro,
but unless the rules of written and spoken language have changed dramtically since last I checked, you or you're cannot constitute a sentance.

what's a "sentance"?


:rolleyes:

digitalhost
05-25-2002, 06:10 PM
you're,

toasty x not sure what you meant by this small statement, would you mind elaborating a little?

if you meant to say I am a fool or idiot for knocking back customers at a time when the hosting industry is under strain with lower profits and price cutting, you could be excused for thinking that.

I appreciate your courtesy in keeping the words to yourself.

yesterday two more customers for my small business, low resource and long term.

God says the meek will inherit the earth and I will take him at his word.

some great people here at this forum and I am cheered by the subtle support I have from others and their responses as I stumble with my words and sentences

thankyou Samuel and namelessguy

Samuel I think your website is fantastic, will recomend it to some friends who would be interested.

Nicholas

Samuel
05-25-2002, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by hostcp3
Samuel I think your website is fantastic, will recomend it to some friends who would be interested.

Nicholas

Thanks!

namelessguy
05-26-2002, 04:43 AM
Man,
I thought that ambiguis "you're" was for me, implying some terrible string of profanities, insults to my mother, confessions of the evil things he thought about doing to my house hold pets!

But really, maybe he meant to say you're right, or you're so cool hostpcp and namelessguy and Gadgy and Samuel, because I don't like rabbits, but you strike me as the kind of people who love bunnies, in all shapes and sizes.

Maybe the toasty part of his name is from the fact that he's all warm and toasty and loves giving out great big hugs and sloppy wet kisses to everyone without any real notice or regret. It could have something to do with a deep and empassioned need to be loved. Can we begrudge him that?

I guess we'll never know.

LOL

:D

ToastyX
05-26-2002, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by hostcp3
you're,

toasty x not sure what you meant by this small statement, would you mind elaborating a little?

if you meant to say I am a fool or idiot for knocking back customers at a time when the hosting industry is under strain with lower profits and price cutting, you could be excused for thinking that.

Whoaaa, hold on there. Where'd you get that impression? Is Samuel the only one that understood my post? As he stated, "you're" is a contraction of "you are," and "your" implies possession. You kept using "your" in place of "you're," which looks unprofessional. I have nothing against your prices. If you can make money with those prices, then you're obviously doing something right, but if you're going to charge those prices, at least learn some basic grammar, and don't act so cynical.

namelessguy
05-27-2002, 01:21 AM
I liked my explination better.

SoftWareRevue
05-27-2002, 01:26 AM
:cartman: What's this thread about?

namelessguy
05-27-2002, 02:28 AM
It's kind of up in the air at the moment.

digitalhost
05-27-2002, 02:44 AM
I will kick it off again.

first I owe an apology to x toaster,
'
secondly

this thread is about offering customer service and value for money in the hosting business without jeopardising support and ongoing viability of the business.

I believe the recipe I used to run other businesses successfully in the past can be applied to the over-hosted webhosting industry.

my ingredients are

service: means fix the problem
support: be there when needed
quality equipment: which can mean slightly higher pricing
and fair pricing for both the customer and business owner,
ongoing commitment: so that any customers that host with me can be assured that their site will not go off line because I suddenly decide I have had enough of this business.

of course this is a hard road to take but should lay the foundations for long term growth and profits.

www.hostcp3.com

sam.moses
05-27-2002, 05:45 AM
I know money's not an issue for you,
but if it were, how would you stay competivie if you didn't cut corners somewhere?

digitalhost
05-27-2002, 06:05 AM
"I know money's not an issue for you,
but if it were, how would you stay competivie if you didn't cut corners somewhere?"

Money is a very important issue for me! but not at the cost of decieving customers, poor service, or going against my beliefs.

but all the same excellent question, why not let others have some input into the question which would benefit many others here at the forum.

hostcp3