Real cute how you attack me in threads and then lock them right away. Maybe you should grow up, at least if i post something controversial i don't run and hide.

1. You say your a non partial bystander, i see this as incredibly ridiculous since last i knew you have a rack shack server.

2. you bitched about me running a dedicated server special a week ago, if you yourself read my posts you would have seen "unless we have some extras in stock or if a customer asks for it in particular, our business model is colocation. Perhaps you should do a little home work." how about you then go back and read that special, it specif. states "were trying to get rid of extra hardware"

3. You post that you don't see how my statement of rackshacks fix to everything is a reload, well if thats not a case why dont you do a search for rackshack threads and see if a majority of them are complaining about this very thing, and see on the ones that were resolved what they did to resolve it, fact is over 99% of customers of rackshack i have talked to have had a issued resolved with a reload.

4. As far as your comment for stooping so low, well if stating facts is a stoop well then im on the ground.

5. As far as your whine about digs, i haven't posted one dig yet today, simply spoke the truth in all threads, these truths were backed up by customers of rackshack and their employees behavior. Im quite glad you don't have a server with us, seeing as this is how tend to take different sides of the ballpark depending on which way the wind blows. And its funny how most of our users browse this board and none feel the need to leave. Guess the fact ive been in biz for 9 years might have something to do with it, how long have you been in business for chicken.

6. As far as keeping negativity out of a thread, i dont think ive been negative in the least bit today, in fact ive been in a good mood, have joked around a little bit.

7. If someone on a competitors network couldn't reach anyone on our network, and i was the competitor i would reach the conclusion something up to. Or perhaps its just coincidence.

The only thing I've said that you find controversial today is: saying that rackshack fixes most of if not all hard problems with reloads of OS is a FACT, i said based on previous dealings with headsurfer i believe he would stoop so low as to block a competitors network, that is a opinion, which i am basing off of headsurfers actions, i believe im entitled to that.

I wouldn't care less if you close every thread i say something you find negative about rackshack.net. But sitting on the sidelines saying your impartial is absurd.

I was cool with you, guess we see what happens to mods who are supposed to stay out of threads when a company like rackshack scoops up webhostingtalk.com

Nothing changing hahaha yep nothing your right don't notice anything changing on old WHT. Besides every other thread complaining about rackshack and your new found attitude toward dealing with anyone who doesn't like rackshack.

But as you can tell, your posts wont keep me from speaking my mind :) just keep locking away. Perhaps we need a chicken **** category....

P.S. How about we just go ahead and lock this thread before you or anyone else has a chance to comment, since that seems to be your solution to anything you find controversial.

Well, I am an impartial bystander. One who would probably have chosen to do business with you sometime back were it not for what I've seen here. You are certainly knowledgeable Charles and can be quite affable. However, you are the quickest draw I've ever seen to take shots at your competitors. I am sure if we were to meet I would like you and find you to be professional. It's just everytime I want to think I've misjudged you, you take shots at competition.

Everything I have ever heard about your business and service has been extremely positive. So, I ask, why damage your reputation with something so unnecessary. Trust people to figure things out themselves. Let your business stand on its own and ignore others businesses. It is hard sometimes...I know...and sometimes I cross the line....but you have so much going for yourself and your company and these shots as well as posts like the one you made here only diminish that.

I hope you accept this in the spirit it was intended...not as an attack, just an honest observation on how some others see it.

Def. incognito that was a post i respect. I know im quick to attack rackshack and anyone else i may or may not like. And while i need to stop that crap, i dont feel like ive been incredibly mean spririted in anything ive posted today, maybe a little saracastic. Ill leave rackshacks threads speak for themselves from now on. I def admit in the past ive been quick to attack competitors which often does not look professional. But i also think that if a company doesnt want a competitor chiming in on their bad business practices they should make attempts to improve them.

Ill be the first to admit i along with most companys on here have growing pains, but im always trying to improve and provide a even better level of service then what we are already known for, and i just dont see that with a couple of our competitors, which makes it hard to respect them. And since i dont respect them it makes it hard to stay out of threads where a customers got screwed.

All that aside, it really shouldnt matter, ill keep my mouth shut about anything regarding rackshack.net. No doubt all the threads on here do them justice as is.

But i still feel like chickens abused his moderator status, of course i anticipated this when rackshack bought this forum.

Anyhow thanks for your post incognito, it should be noted, that i respect yours and most people on here, i recommend many of my competitors that i respect. It has nothing to do with what rackshack offers or how large they are. Im always quick to recommend prospective customers to my competitors if they need something i dont offer, such as i did for webreseller today.

Hey Charles, what ever happend to "I wont be utilizing any of my time to contribute to the general community on here, i look forward to alternate forums opening so i can contribute and help there. "


http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=45400

:D

Didnt you read their reviews, rackshacks fix to everything has always been a reload of the operating system.
...in a thread where the customer's server was already fixed isn't much of a contribution.

What can i say rackmy i was barraged with icq's to return here, cant let my fans down :)

I rarely post in any threads that Charles posts in just because they're not really related to topics that interest me. However, from what I can see you do a great job helping people, giving advice, and contributing to this forum. When I read that you might leave, I was very disappointed because this forum is a community and when a member leaves, especially such a valuable member like you, it hurts the community overall.

I'm not trying to kiss @$$ here, but I'm obviously on Charle's side because I can't see anything wrong with stating facts. But I am mad at the fact that Chicken seems to be backing RackShack, and guess what, they just so happen to own WHT now. It may be coincidence, but I don't like it, especially when mods should be unbiased.

--Brian

Why doesn't Chicken post and tell his side of the story before we all start making assumptions...I'm sure this isn't just one sided.

Originally posted by BrianF
Why doesn't Chicken post and tell his side of the story before we all start making assumptions...I'm sure this isn't just one sided.

maybe he died
maybe he went AFK
a number of things

give the man time

Hes prob still reading my post, its rather long winded :) ive calmed down a bit since posting it, i hate the fact that i would ever have to be upset with chicken about anything, we used to what i considered friends a long time ago.

We all have bias, some based on facts, some on suspicions, some on personal interests. However, before you jump too hard on our feathered friend, you might visit the thread where asked which would one choose...serverrack.net, rackshack.net, or 4webspace.com, he said,

"Well, I only have experience with 4webspace out of those 3, but a managed RaQ3 would run you short of $200, and 4r short of $300 (with a healthy amount of transfer).

If you're primary need is transfer, and the price seems good to you, then I can say that my experience with them was very positive."

I just know I would not want his responsibility, because I know sometimes I could not remain neutral. Overall, I think the moderators here do an excellent job.

I don't disagree with you at all that the mods do a great job, especially chicken. I just find it odd that he appears to be supporting rackshack now, or maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way?

I agree the mods def. seem to do a great job, just seems chickens unbiased attitude not only favors rackshack in the threads i participate in, but in almost every thread that he chooses to post in thats about rackshack, i didnt say a whole lot about it until it was directed towards me.

Originally posted by BrianF
. . . . . or maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way? The way I see it, is there are more RackShack related threads than there used to be. There are probably more RackShack related threads than any other common topic.
That means RackShack related threads are closed more often. Not because of some conspiracy or bias. But, simply, because there are more of them.


[/MHO]

My observation:

Chicken's bias seems to lean toward the party being attacked in all cases, not just Rackshack; they just happen to be the predominent atackee. I see it as compassion more than anything, perhaps an attempt to ensure that the atackee isn't lynched quite so quickly.

Scott, good point. Maybe I'm just noticing this because of the abundance of RackShack posts lately. Just poking around the dedicated forum I see a ton of posts about them.

--Brian

If Chicken (I wish I remembered his real name, because I feel weird typing that word) is supporting or defending RS, so? Maybe he likes them? Maybe he feels other posts were unreasonable and unfair and he wants to make sure the other side is posted. Just because he's a mod, doesn't mean he can't support someone or some company, if he feels they should be or if he feels that they are good (or good in some regard).

Chicken at I have been at odds before too, it's not a big deal. I got the impression it was personal, and sometimes I wonder, but it's usually not the way it seems. I think you might be making too much out of this. Anyone that is in the middle of a heated thread and has someone (mod or not) post something contrary to what you last said, and locks it so you can't clarify or defend yourself, or counter their last statements, is going to upset the majority of people it happens to. Sort of left looking like you were wrong or a fool or a jerk or whatever the last post or more made you look out to be, and have the thread locked to boot, where you can't even defend those last posts that will be there left to stand.

The solution to that, is to not get into a situation in the first place like that, but seeing that this is the Internet, good luck. Most people get drawn into a debate or flame or something, at some point -- especially since there's a lot of jerks out there that want to fight (I'm not saying this is the case for most or all of these situations, or that it was the case for the thread you mention). However, I do think that if a thread is bad enough to lock, that perhaps if the mods see it as "lockable", rather than leave any argumentative posts standing, to either delete them all that are not on topic, or just toss the entire thread.

Not only is that fair and will not give people reason to get upset that they are left looking in the way that the last posters made them look, but it'll further support the reason why it was locked in the first place. So, rather than locking a thread with a lot of bad things in it, lock it and remove those bad things that got the thread locked -- since there's no point in keeping them up there, it doesn't do anyone any good anyway. But wait, there's the problem of deciding what parts get tossed (unless it's the entire thread, and even then, it's the same problem); people will complain that mods don't have the right to decide what to censor or remove. Also, people can go and purposely ruin threads and make it so messy, that it gets tossed and maybe a competitor ruins it on purpose, or because it's someone they don't like -- just to have a thread removed (possibly where that person was promoting their services, or something). There's no way to win.

I can't say I'm clean of never being in a flame thread. I do think that I try to be logical and fair and civil and I still do get provoked (and the provoker usually accuses me of being the cause -- that's how it is with all the people that provoke arguments though), but it's best if you can just not post anything controversial. I've learned to just keep my mouth shut about some things, because I'll give the wrong impression otherwise. Just don't sweat it, is all I'm saying. Really, wherever you turn on the Internet, you'll eventually run into some issue and it's going to get heated at some point. Just calmly and politely remove yourself from the thread and ignore it or the poster that's being irrational. It's the best thing to do.

G'day cbaker,

Originally posted by cbaker17
... fact is over 99% of customers of rackshack i have talked to have had a issued resolved with a reload.

over 99%... hmmmmmm. ;-)

We've had some fault response issues with RS ourselves, but using the word "fact" in the above sentence makes you look a little silly to say the very least.

If *over* 99% of RS customers you have talked to have had issues resolved with a reload you probably need to get out a bit more.

Best Regards,

LBJ

This thread hasnt been locked yet, maybe chicken had a change of heart?


Jim

I don't understand what you would have a moderator do other than close a thread that the starter requested be closed.

Originally posted by Tobias
* jepp, any Mod can close this thread- The server is now on a fast running. *

** Problem solved **

You guys ever think that maybe he was having a bit of fun on Charles. heck, there is nothing more fustrating that not being able to reply.

" cover my butt part here "

No offense Chicken, but when a person get's god powers, sometimes they really can get a good kick out if it.

anyway it's fun to listen to Charles, the angrier he gets the more sense he makes.

mike

Thank You, although i think i rarely make since regardless of if im mad or not.

Originally posted by cbaker17
1. You say your a non partial bystander, i see this as incredibly ridiculous since last i knew you have a rack shack server.
Charles, you keep saying this and I keep telling you that I've never had, nor do I currently have a server with RS. I don't use any RS product/service (dialup, etc.), never have. As I said, you've accused me of this before and I've told you that I don't (and still don't).

It would be nice if you asked me instead of assuming this (one of the reasons why the other posts were locked, among other things).

2. you bitched about me running a dedicated server special a week ago, if you yourself read my posts you would have seen "unless we have some extras in stock or if a customer asks for it in particular, our business model is colocation. Perhaps you should do a little home work." how about you then go back and read that special, it specif. states "were trying to get rid of extra hardware"
So you do or do not offer dedicated servers? That's my only point. Just because you don't come anywhere near the volume of RS is inconsequential.

3. You post that you don't see how my statement of rackshacks fix to everything is a reload, well if thats not a case why dont you do a search for rackshack threads and see if a majority of them are complaining about this very thing, and see on the ones that were resolved what they did to resolve it, fact is over 99% of customers of rackshack i have talked to have had a issued resolved with a reload.
The customers you've talked to might not represent the entire RS clientel. Were these satisfied RS customers you talked to, or were these ones ones you were talking to about getting dedicated servers?

Regardless, to say, "Didnt you read their reviews, rackshacks fix to everything has always been a reload of the operating system." as a fact, is something I couldn't verify, however I'm 99.9% certain this simply isn't the case.

As a fellow provider, the comment is uncalled for.

4. As far as your comment for stooping so low, well if stating facts is a stoop well then im on the ground.

5. As far as your whine about digs, i haven't posted one dig yet today, simply spoke the truth in all threads, these truths were backed up by customers of rackshack and their employees behavior. Im quite glad you don't have a server with us, seeing as this is how tend to take different sides of the ballpark depending on which way the wind blows. And its funny how most of our users browse this board and none feel the need to leave. Guess the fact ive been in biz for 9 years might have something to do with it, how long have you been in business for chicken.
Fact or assumption? A fact can be proven. An opinion is your personal belief (I teach this to my 3rd graders, they don't get it either). Not one dig today? -well that's off to a good start... ;) It is good that none of your users leave based on your posts, however I can tell you from talking to people, that you'd have more business if you didn't host bash.

6. As far as keeping negativity out of a thread, i dont think ive been negative in the least bit today, in fact ive been in a good mood, have joked around a little bit.

7. If someone on a competitors network couldn't reach anyone on our network, and i was the competitor i would reach the conclusion something up to. Or perhaps its just coincidence.
A coincidence wasn't even considered by some of the people in that thread. People (*hosts*) just jumped on the 'they stooped so low', 'they suck' bandwagon, which is simply unacceptable. No one even knows the story, but that didn't really matter.

The only thing I've said that you find controversial today is: saying that rackshack fixes most of if not all hard problems with reloads of OS is a FACT, i said based on previous dealings with headsurfer i believe he would stoop so low as to block a competitors network, that is a opinion, which i am basing off of headsurfers actions, i believe im entitled to that.
Again, especially as a fellow provider, your comments are out of line. Headsurfer might have some opinions of you as well (hmmm), but if he were to post them in a thread about your company, I'd find that unacceptable.

I wouldn't care less if you close every thread i say something you find negative about rackshack.net. But sitting on the sidelines saying your impartial is absurd.

I was cool with you, guess we see what happens to mods who are supposed to stay out of threads when a company like rackshack scoops up webhostingtalk.com

Nothing changing hahaha yep nothing your right don't notice anything changing on old WHT. Besides every other thread complaining about rackshack and your new found attitude toward dealing with anyone who doesn't like rackshack.

But as you can tell, your posts wont keep me from speaking my mind :) just keep locking away. Perhaps we need a chicken **** category....

P.S. How about we just go ahead and lock this thread before you or anyone else has a chance to comment, since that seems to be your solution to anything you find controversial.
You don't honestly think the threads were closed just because of you? Deflate head please. Thread starter asked for first thread to be closed, it was. Second thread, besides the many posts of dribble (started by you), the issue was resolved, then it wasn't, and the RS forum should be used for direct support, not this forum. When it goes from general problem or experience to specific, 'server down please help', thread should be locked and support shold be handled via helpdesk/email/pm.

These are the reasons the threads were locked, not because they were 'controversial' (unlesshost bashing is 'controversial'?) About the mods blah blah blah RS bought WHT yadda yadda yadda, well what can I say, if someone posts their opinions about you, I promise I'll let them and I won't lock the thread. We'll aslo now allow host bashing (I mean opinions) -it's fun! Ohhh and be sure to assume things, as the truth doesn't really matter. Knowing headsurfer, he's probably blocked all of you by now...

Sum up:
If it smells like a duck and it quacks, it ain't a chicken.
I don't have an RS server, never have.

Originally posted by BrianF
I rarely post in any threads that Charles posts in just because they're not really related to topics that interest me. However, from what I can see you do a great job helping people, giving advice, and contributing to this forum. When I read that you might leave, I was very disappointed because this forum is a community and when a member leaves, especially such a valuable member like you, it hurts the community overall.

I'm not trying to kiss @$$ here, but I'm obviously on Charle's side because I can't see anything wrong with stating facts. But I am mad at the fact that Chicken seems to be backing RackShack, and guess what, they just so happen to own WHT now. It may be coincidence, but I don't like it, especially when mods should be unbiased.

--Brian
Charles' posts are great 99.9% of the time, he's been a long time member here, very helpful indeed, and we actually get along better than it probably seems. The only thing I don't like is that every few months he seems to have spurts of a few negative posts. That really sums it up, not much else to it.

I don't know how I back rackshack, any more than anyone else. If something looks off in a RS thread, I'll edit it, if somethign looks off elsewhere, I'll edit it.

I already addressed why the threads were closed, but if people want to go on and on about the RS-WHT cartel, etc., then honestly, that's fine with me. Gives people something to do I suppose.

RS threads were posted to this forum before the purchase, and they continue to be. Only support or bashing ones are ever closed (or when people request it).

Anywhooo... I think this has been covered...

Chicken, but if your a moderator, techincally you are an employee of RackShack and Everyone's Internet. So really, you are representing Rackshack now, wether you like it or not.


Just my $0.02.


Jim

Originally posted by cbaker17
I agree the mods def. seem to do a great job, just seems chickens unbiased attitude not only favors rackshack in the threads i participate in, but in almost every thread that he chooses to post in thats about rackshack, i didnt say a whole lot about it until it was directed towards me.
I honestly don't feel this is true, however I'm willing to see URLs that you can post that would back up this claim. Please do so as I'd like to take a look and see what was posted and see how it could be construed as biased and favoring RS. If you're right, well, then you're right...

Originally posted by jimb
Chicken, but if your a moderator, techincally you are an employee of RackShack and Everyone's Internet. So really, you are representing Rackshack now, wether you like it or not.


Just my $0.02.


Jim :eek: Moderators are employees now? :eek2:

Chicken my problem wasnt with you closing the threads, my problem is you chose to attack me, defend rackshack, and close them. Leaving me no way to present my followup views. If you were going to close them and felt the need to attack me because you didnt like what i was saying, how about you just pm me or email me, youve never done that, you just out of the blue start attacking me and then lock the threads. Whether you are taking rackshacks side now adays or not, doesnt really matter because when you do something like attack me and lock the threads, i can not draw no other conclusion. If you have a problem with someone, how about you pm or email them and discuss it, then if they still fail to stop it perhaps you can address it at that point in public. But i must say I think you as a moderator really should stay out of anything thats not a violation of the rules, your opinion differs from my opinion and when you chime in, and use your moderating powers, well its never going to turn out well. If you want the ability to offer up your opinion in a non biased nature you need to step down as moderator.

I wont continue on and offer my opinion to your replys to my numbers items, i dont think it will be constructive. Suffice to say i dont think your seeing the whole picture. And i still dont think i said one thing wrong yesterday.

And as far as you having a rackshack server, if you dont then im sorry ive just heard from several people that you do. Of course you should know better then anyone else.

Originally posted by jimb
Chicken, but if your a moderator, techincally you are an employee of RackShack and Everyone's Internet. So really, you are representing Rackshack now, wether you like it or not.


Just my $0.02.


Jim

hey Jim, if you are thinking of the AOL VS Volunteers, then you have to take into account that chicken would have to be taking some service in return. Being a mod. does not qualify as an employee, he would have to be getting something in return ( free space, dial up ...)

Mike

Originally posted by ADEhost


hey Jim, if you are thinking of the AOL VS Volunteers, then you have to take into account that chicken would have to be taking some service in return. Being a mod. does not qualify as an employee, he would have to be getting something in return ( free space, dial up ...)



No, what I meant was that he REPRESENTS rackshack and everyone's internet, because he is a moderator. I mean, an employee is what I would consider, maybe not a paid one, but still someone who represents the company.

It just doesnt feel right to have a hosting company own these boards, Its just odd.

Jim

Originally posted by jimb
Chicken, but if your a moderator, techincally you are an employee of RackShack and Everyone's Internet. So really, you are representing Rackshack now, wether you like it or not.

Jim
Well, to my knowledge, Robert has never touched a post, answered a report, etc, and Patrick-EV1 isn't a moderator, though he has access to the forum (obviously), so that just leaves us. We can't exactly just ignore anything and everything posted about RS no matter what.

I really try to look objectively at posts whether it pertains to RS or another host, or about the thread starter. We get plenty of emails from everyone about threads from hosts and from the people posting.

Originally posted by jimb



No, what I meant was that he REPRESENTS rackshack and everyone's internet, because he is a moderator. . . . . . Jim, I can usually agree with you; but I think you're wrong. :D

Chicken does not represent RackShack.

Chicken represents WebHostingTalk.

I think you're one of the ones that are upset about RackShack purchasing WHT and so your reasoning is a little clouded.

Originally posted by jimb
No, what I meant was that he REPRESENTS rackshack and everyone's internet, because he is a moderator. I mean, an employee is what I would consider, maybe not a paid one, but still someone who represents the company.
I actually understand what Jim is saying and partly agree with it. We consider moderators of host support forums to be representatives (paid or not), and I think this is what he means. However, I'm not sure what the solution is, as we still have to watch out for those threads too (to be fair to RS).

I think you could say that we don't remove negative RS threads. As long as the person who is posting has a problem and needs help, or an experience to share, the post/thread will not be removed.

Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Jim, I can usually agree with you; but I think you're wrong. :D

Chicken does not represent RackShack.

Chicken represents WebHostingTalk.

I think you're one of the ones that are upset about RackShack purchasing WHT and so your reasoning is a little clouded.


Your right on the fact that chicken represents WebHostingTalk, BUT what is WebHostingTalk? Its apart of RACKSHACK/EV1, which ever way you look at it, its apart of them, its theirs. Its no longer seperated, even if they dont do any moderating, the mods are now apart of rackshack. Its basically that they are just maintaining a EV1 property.

So, in the long run, Chicken and all the moderators are representing WebHostingTalk and Rackshack.


And you are also right that I am mad that Rackshack purchased WHT, but I am not mad at the mods or anything. I feel that this place should be seperate, but I support Matt in his reasoning for selling.



Jim

Originally posted by Chicken
I think you could say that we don't remove negative RS threads. As long as the person who is posting has a problem and needs help, or an experience to share, the post/thread will not be removed.
As a point of interest and not based on anything, this would apply to all negative HOST threads and not just negative RS threads, right?
I know this is how Chicken has always been, but want to ensure the rules are still the same. :D

And you are also right that I am mad that Rackshack purchased WHT, but I am not mad at the mods or anything. I feel that this place should be seperate

And who, but a hosting company, would have any interest in owning this board? A real estate company? A bank? Only a hosting company would be interested in owning WHT. The only other solution is for a bunch of users to have gotten together and pooled their pennies and bought WHT. Why is anybody surprised or angry that a hosting company bought WHT? Give me a break...

And no, I do not use RS or EV1. I do not know these people, or whatever... :)

Originally posted by VoxKeysGtr


And who, but a hosting company, would have any interest in owning this board? A real estate company? A bank? Only a hosting company would be interested in owning WHT. The only other solution is for a bunch of users to have gotten together and pooled their pennies and bought WHT. Why is anybody surprised or angry that a hosting company bought WHT? Give me a break...



Who else? How about a hosting directory? What about an independent research group? There are hundreds of other places and people that would be more than happy to purchase this place. And all have little or nothing to do with the hosting industry.

So dont give me that, "nobody wants us" stuff.

Jim

Who else? How about a hosting directory? What about an independent research group? There are hundreds of other places and people that would be more than happy to purchase this place. And all have little or nothing to do with the hosting industry.

Obviously anybody could have bought WHT. This is America, but, the point is this...were you surprised that a hosting company bought WHT? Lemme take a wild guess...no. Why get angry that an obvious potential buyer did, in fact, purchase WHT? ;)

Could this be a reason http://www.hostingdiscussions.com/ started?

Not sure if that site could handle the load WHT has though.

No I am not spamming, just suggesting an alternative, I have no connection with http://www.hostingdiscussions.com/

A few posters are RS don't think highly of this place either:
http://forum.rackshack.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5024

What the hell is wrong with WHT?

I personally don't think there is anything wrong with WHT.

I do agree yes I have seen the slamming though. Nobody or nothing is perfect.

Exactly. What the hell is going on with WHT? I have only been a member of this forum since January of 2001, feel free to take my comments with a #10 can of salt. I have just colocated a server with Mr. Baker in their Dallas facility, and have found him to be exceedingly helpful and reasonable (over the phone). Just as berating his competition in a public forum may be offensive to most around here, I feel that the same standard should be held to the Moderator(s) of this venue. How are people, especially people new to the webhosting world, supposed to feel about the following post by a moderator:

Originally posted by Chicken (in another thread: http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=50281&pagenumber=3)
If I had a server with you, I'd be pulling it ASAP as you can't even understand that you're being a donkey (amazing how one could somehow miss that).

Please note that this obviously is a quote taken out of the context of this thread; this was from a previous disagreement between the parties deeply involved in this thread. Sure, I can draw conclusions about Charles' personality from the recent debate he has chosen to take part in. But, with all due respect to someone who tirelessly works on maintaining one of the best resources to webhosts/webmasters/bandwidth-providers, I don't feel I need to be told that so and so is a jackass or not by a moderator. Should I pull our company server out from under affordablecolo's care because someone said that I should? Obviously no, I would need more concrete reasons.

I honestly could care less about the ongoing (and tiresome) debate on whether the latest cheapest guy is better than last month's cheapest guy. Let's get back to the business at hand -- "Helping Each Other Out" for God's sake.

Regards,

Jeff

Jeff, for you next time I'll sugar coat it with sprinkles.Originally posted by Jeffyt
Should I pull our company server out from under affordablecolo's care because someone said that I should? Obviously no, I would need more concrete reasons.
Who said you should? Maybe you misread my post:

If I had a server with you, I'd be pulling it ASAP...

Any whooooo...

Originally posted by Chicken
Jeff, for you next time I'll sugar coat it with sprinkles.


Thanks for looking out for me.

Originally posted by Chicken
Who said you should? Maybe you misread my post:
If I had a server with you, I'd be pulling it ASAP...

Guess I misinterpreted the obvious implication rooted in your statement. Sorry for the confusion.

Regards,

Jeff

alright guys its supposed to be just me and chicken fighting :) hehe lets just close this thread and everyone come to my house for a barbecue. Im the best chef in the world when it comes to steaks, hamburgers, and chicken.