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View Full Version : No Access To Rs
webreseller 05-17-2002, 11:39 AM We had a few customers today request us to see if we can offer them a deal similar to rackshack.net, and when we attempted to access their site amazingly we could not, yet all of our neighbors in our corporate park could including another company that has the same company for connection (17 TOTAL) ... I thought I would throw out the question... anyone have any thoughts or ideas ???
Patrick-EV1 05-17-2002, 12:12 PM The site is working fine, I'm able to access it from several outside locations including NY, TX, Indiana, etc..
route-server.west>ping www.rackshack.net
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 207.218.223.142, timeout is 2 seconds:
!!!!!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 108/109/112 ms
route-server.west>lynx www.rackshack.ne
route-server>ping www.rackshack.net
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 207.218.223.142, timeout is 2 seconds:
!!!!!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 144/144/144 ms
BiGWill 05-17-2002, 12:30 PM lol, maybe they'r trying to cut their competitors off their network?! (e.g. firewall your ip-block off?)
strange thingie thought ... but your offers are really incredible!
show RS who you are! ;-)
cbaker17 05-17-2002, 12:30 PM I dont think thats what he getting at patrick i believe hes saying someone working for rackshack or headsurfer himself blocks webresellers ips, so they can not access any customer site on the rackshack network.
If thats the case which i would tend to believe it is, knowing headsurfer. I would have to say congrats to webreseller as they must be putting quite a hole in rackshacks new signups for rackshack to stoop so low.
CoreFighter 05-17-2002, 12:38 PM what's the point... you can always use dialup at your place to read the rackshack web site if they block your ip.... or whatever way :rolleyes:
webreseller 05-17-2002, 12:41 PM Agreed Core, but, we use our high speed at the office, so that tends to block many employees and sales reps...
CoreFighter 05-17-2002, 12:43 PM you can always use one of those free http proxy service to read their web site ;)
webreseller 05-17-2002, 01:51 PM It's not worth the time...
JBIZ718 05-17-2002, 02:20 PM Now thats a classey move if ive ever heard of one.
Loosing business to the competition, block there access to the site.
The stupid thing is that its so easy to get access from another ip or subnet, that why waste ur time.
I guess since there not selling servers, they got alot of time
Joe
Patrick-EV1 05-17-2002, 02:27 PM This is got to be the most ridiculous thread I've ever read, ever thought maybe the insinuation is merely there to make Rackshack look bad? We dont 'block' our competitor's IPs. I think the sad part is people stooping so low as to make this thread.
JBIZ718 05-17-2002, 02:34 PM So Patrick
Explain why webreseller entire sub net is blocked from ur site then.
They arent having network problems.
I think u are avoiding the issue. Its merely crazy that someone would even have to start a post about this, because rackshack stooped so low to do this
Joe
webreseller 05-17-2002, 02:36 PM I would agree with you, but, we can browse any other site except that, and what's more ironic is on another yipes connection on another subnet it could be brought up... Seems a little odd, but then again, you never know...
Patrick-EV1 05-17-2002, 02:38 PM Ever thought there's a problem with the connection between you and us? We have tons of other competitors and I havent seen sales even dented by webreseller, I dont know why we'd need to block him.
webreseller 05-17-2002, 02:48 PM I did not mention about sales, I simply said, "we can access just about any site except yours, and a company next door that has yipes on a different subnet can access it." We have the exact same network setup and peering points... So, once again, I don't know, could just be a fluke or something...
SoftWareRevue 05-17-2002, 02:49 PM Originally posted by webreseller
. . . . ... Seems a little odd, but then again, you never know... That's something I can agree with.
I'll wait til the whole hand is played before making a decision.
Originally posted by webreseller
I did not mention about sales, I simply said, "we can access just about any site except yours, and a company next door that has yipes on a different subnet can access it." We have the exact same network setup and peering points... So, once again, I don't know, could just be a fluke or something...
Why don't you traceroute it and see where it dies?
-Bob
Patrick-EV1 05-17-2002, 02:55 PM Originally posted by webreseller
I did not mention about sales, I simply said, "we can access just about any site except yours, and a company next door that has yipes on a different subnet can access it." We have the exact same network setup and peering points... So, once again, I don't know, could just be a fluke or something...
I agree it's odd that you cant access it, and the sales part was a response to accusations from other members', not specifically at you. As far as I'm aware it's being looked into, we've never had anything to hide and certainly dont want it to seem that way, we've always made our products and pricing structures widely known.
headsurfer 05-17-2002, 02:56 PM You guys crack me up. This has got to be one of the most entertaining threads I have ever seen.
We don't block competitors IPs. Just don't do it.
Is evertything now a conspiracy by Rackshack? Give me a break.
You must be right, though, we've only done 650 new servers so far this month (pushing us over the 6000 mark) so we MUST have too much time on our hands.
webreseller 05-17-2002, 03:00 PM Certainly not a conspiracy,, just a question that was asked.
PS
congrats on the 650 and reaching 6000 servers
SoftWareRevue 05-17-2002, 03:01 PM Originally posted by headsurfer
. . . . . .Is evertything now a conspiracy by Rackshack? . . . . . . .YES!
Haven't you seen this place since RackShack puchased it?
:eek:
There must be at least three new conspiracy threads a week. :rolleyes:
And about 200 posts in other theads that like to blame the evil RS. :pimp:
I think we should take a step back and look at the situation clearly before deciding on anything wrongly. IMHO I see no reason why RackShack would want to block off any competitor's IP or anything at all.
Getting back to the original topic, try
www.rackshack.net
Just tried accessing RackShack.net both with and without "www". Without it, it doesn't work.
cbaker17 05-17-2002, 03:40 PM My poodle dog Bo is missing, webresellers ips may be blocked, and rats are taking the places of husbands (http://www.msnbc.com/news/753541.asp). All a result of rackshacks supposed conspiracy to take over the world. Wish bush would get his prerogatives straight, the real enemy we should be fighting is right here in our home land.
*the above statements are based on posts here, statements made my EV1 employs and owners and informational articles on the internet, they may or may not be factual, to my knowledge, no rats have applied for a marriage license. This post should not be construed as a factual representation of any real world situation, after all who wouldnt want a poodle dog, they are the smartest dogs in the world.
Patrick-EV1 05-17-2002, 03:42 PM And those are merely the first three plagues... bwahahaha.. *cough* err, n/m.
cbaker17 05-17-2002, 03:44 PM Whats next a plague of obselete cobalt raq 3i's falling from the sky reigning down death to all the un suspecting peasants that live in kansas? Perhaps a more populated area would be better after all everyone knows that the only thing in kansas is miles and miles of wheat fields.
cyansmoker 05-17-2002, 04:03 PM I am not a big RS fan myself (bad server...) but I think that there may be other reasons why RS would have blocked WebReseller's IP block, for instance if one of their clients spammed like hell and before WR could do anything about it their IP block was added to an anti-spam list.
I don't know, I would give them benefit of the doubt instead of jumping the gun like some of you seem to do...
ScottD 05-17-2002, 04:09 PM Since we're talking conspiracies, how do we know webreseller is really blocked? Maybe they made it up to create a FUD campaign against RS.
Though certainly unlikely that either party is doing any FUD spreading or IP blocking, who's to say who is telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
CoreFighter 05-17-2002, 04:20 PM Guys stoping bashing each other, go back to your work instead of wastimg time here! :)
There's no way rackshack would block anyone ip, they are not ediot who would do this and they know that isn't gonna stop anyone from webreseller broswering their web site.
You both are good hosts, shouldn't make up anything to make people laugh or anything, get over it. :cool:
SoftWareRevue 05-17-2002, 04:24 PM Originally posted by DizixCom
. . . . . . who's to say who is telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth? That would be Chicken.
*shudder*
webreseller 05-17-2002, 05:03 PM Let's just close this post, we still can access everything in the world except rackshack.net, we got information, no need to turn the thread into a war... I am not wavering my opinion one way or the other, all we know is a trace can be done to webreseller.net from RS customers and we can not see the site, nor do a trace there..
Chicken 05-17-2002, 07:34 PM :rolleyes: closed as requested... no comment.
Chicken 05-17-2002, 07:43 PM Ok, comment with the names switched, just to make a point at how utterly silly this is...
Think (just for a moment) if another host (we'll call them HostParanoid) had trouble accessing affordablecolo.com and 'another host' had posted this:
Originally posted by 'another host'
I dont think thats what he getting at <affordablecolo employee> i believe hes saying someone working for affordablecolo or Charles himself blocks HostParanoid's ips, so they can not access any customer site on the affordablecolo network.
If thats the case which i would tend to believe it is, knowing Charles. I would have to say congrats to HostParanoid as they must be putting quite a hole in affordablecolo new signups for affordablecolo to stoop so low.
It is just bloody silly or sad, or both...
By the way, webreseller is HostParanoid in the above post, however they just posted the thread. They didn't come off paranoid or accusing in any way, I just liked the name. So please don't think that's some dig on them, it isn't meant to be.
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