I heard MFN bought Above.net and some others backbone or something, are they good?
Never heard of anyone using it around this forum... anyone got a server on their network, can i have your ip for ping and tracert please? :)

We jsut added them and they are excellent.

yes, nice network.
just have a look at their public stats:
http://www.mfn.com/network/ip_networkstatus.shtm

as far as I know they are good. Remember how good Above Net was with it's colocation offers (not sure if they are still in the top, but I am sure they still are a big player in colo area).

Originally posted by BiGWill
yes, nice network.
just have a look at their public stats:
http://www.mfn.com/network/ip_networkstatus.shtm

wow!! that's a very big network, i thought they're just some smaller ones company...

http://www.mfn.com/network/facilities.shtm

look at those cisco 12000 series routers, looks great

nicely done sailor :)

AboveNet (MFN, Symbol: MFNXE) is in some trouble. They haven't filed their 10-K ending Mar 31, 2002 yet (Cogent just filed their yesterday) and MFN's stock is down to five little pennies. At least the stock has some volume (ever see Cogent's volume?).

On top of that, they are in danger of defaulting on a senior notes interest payment of $32 million.

Maybe Cogent will step in and gobble this one up too.

http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/020516/200205160342000223_1.html

Interesting times lie ahead: the fates of Yipes, AboveNet (MFN), and Cogent.

Originally posted by sailor
We jsut added them and they are excellent.

Why does it show NationalNet in the traceroute? Do you own NationalNet?

5 so-4-1-0.cr2.sea1.us.mfnx.net (208.185.175.93) 2.487 ms 3.326 ms 3.310 ms
6 so-5-1-0.cr1.lga1.us.mfnx.net (216.200.127.65) 73.310 ms 72.492 ms 73.313 ms
7 so-0-0-0.cr1.lga2.us.mfnx.net (208.185.0.246) 71.641 ms 71.659 ms 71.666 ms
8 so-5-0-0.cr1.atl2.us.mfnx.net (208.184.232.165) 87.475 ms 87.495 ms 88.310 ms
9 pos0-0.per1.atl2.us.mfnx.net (208.185.0.222) 87.476 ms 87.499 ms 87.479 ms
10 abovenet-tr1.atl2-1-1.national-net.com (66.115.128.53) 89.975 ms 89.163 ms 87.478 ms
11 tr1.atl2-1-2-tr1.atl1-1-8.national-net.com (66.115.128.42) 88.328 ms 89.159 ms 88.313 ms
12 209.51.137.125 (209.51.137.125) 101.665 ms 99.993 ms 100.808 ms
13 209.51.157.228 (209.51.157.228) 102.477 ms 99.991 ms 100.004 ms

no - they are across the hall from us - we are tapping their abovenet connection - gig interface - very smoking price - more sense than for us to bring it in ourselves. By doing things like that I can keep everyones prices down.

This forum is hosted in an Above.net/MFM data center, very reliable connection as I see it.

www.fixedorbit.com

I jsut came across it and it is really cool to tell who connects to who and who they connect to. Nothing to hide now.

also says abovenet is best out there -

Originally posted by sailor
www.fixedorbit.com

I jsut came across it and it is really cool to tell who connects to who and who they connect to. Nothing to hide now.

also says abovenet is best out there -

nice info there sailor :)

didn't know that this forum is hosted at mfn datacenter, very nice performance!

Yes MFN's network rocks. They are in some financial trouble though.

We have been using them [above.net] for a year now, and the main problem is the diminishing staff.. it gets harder to get things done. Hopefully they will bounce back because it would be a pity to see them nudged out..

Originally posted by felix220
We have been using them [above.net] for a year now, and the main problem is the diminishing staff.. it gets harder to get things done. Hopefully they will bounce back because it would be a pity to see them nudged out..
i'm sure you can eliminate that negative point in going via a reseller which has their own staff.
just a thought ;-)

greets,

LOL, you've lost me.. :confused: I was talking about above.net staff.. cost cutting etc.. no 'reseller' would have a different deal to us.. if that's what you mean.. :)

Cheers BigWill ..

about 6 weeks ago I was comparing many good offers from many providers for our new datacenter; We got 5 offers from Tier1 datacenter/providers such as UUNet, Level3, Above/MFN, InterNAP and IBM. I visited these datacenter and get practically discouraged with Above/MFN right away.

About 12-24 months ago, I really wanted to get inside Above.net but their bandwith was pretty expensive for me that time. But although they are now pretty aggresive on selling their bandwith, after some thoughts and a visit to their Boston datacenter, I decided against going with them. All this boil down to their being in financial crisis. Their Boston datacenter (on summer street) did not even have the ability to buy the ethernet card that goes into their core router so that people can cross connect their switch to. Yes, they can't buy this ... I was told that they will make a really nice deal if I buy this ethernet card for them. Furthermore, their open cage colo requires a 4 hours prior arrangment if you plan to come physically to the data center. And since they are running tight on budget, they only have on site tech(s) in the morning. So if I do put my servers in their open colo area, I will not be able to come after 5pm since basically there will be nobody to escort me. All these make me wonder, MFN is really in deep financial trouble (such that they can't even buy their own ethernet card, a cost of only at most $30000) and it would not be a good idea to go with them no matter how good their bandwith and their pricing is.

So it will indeed be true, since they are running tight on budget (reduce costs in everything they can), it will also be true that they might be running very tight on personnels and it won't be surprised to hear that they do take longer to solve problems now ...

just my 2 cents ...

cheers,
:beer:

Thanks dektong.. that's what I meant, although we haven't had it quite as bad as that!!

NOTE: The network is 'EXCELLENT' just some things.. like getting new IP's and similar, were taking longer.. just to clarify..

You can get them in a neutral facility and when they start suckin find a hole in the contract and ditch them :) and bring up a new provider. No moving of servers or anything.

That is pretty sad about the card they cant afford hehehe

You almost sound like you know what you're talking about :) As one of their customers, and as a shareholder, I find it amusing that you manage to come off as sounding knowledgable about MFNX. This is totally fabricated -- they dont even have a datacenter in Boston


Originally posted by dektong
about 6 weeks ago I was comparing many good offers from many providers for our new datacenter; We got 5 offers from Tier1 datacenter/providers such as UUNet, Level3, Above/MFN, InterNAP and IBM. I visited these datacenter and get practically discouraged with Above/MFN right away.

About 12-24 months ago, I really wanted to get inside Above.net but their bandwith was pretty expensive for me that time. But although they are now pretty aggresive on selling their bandwith, after some thoughts and a visit to their Boston datacenter, I decided against going with them. All this boil down to their being in financial crisis. Their Boston datacenter (on summer street) did not even have the ability to buy the ethernet card that goes into their core router so that people can cross connect their switch to. Yes, they can't buy this ... I was told that they will make a really nice deal if I buy this ethernet card for them. Furthermore, their open cage colo requires a 4 hours prior arrangment if you plan to come physically to the data center. And since they are running tight on budget, they only have on site tech(s) in the morning. So if I do put my servers in their open colo area, I will not be able to come after 5pm since basically there will be nobody to escort me. All these make me wonder, MFN is really in deep financial trouble (such that they can't even buy their own ethernet card, a cost of only at most $30000) and it would not be a good idea to go with them no matter how good their bandwith and their pricing is.

So it will indeed be true, since they are running tight on budget (reduce costs in everything they can), it will also be true that they might be running very tight on personnels and it won't be surprised to hear that they do take longer to solve problems now ...

just my 2 cents ...

cheers,
:beer:

Originally posted by nopzor
You almost sound like you know what you're talking about :) As one of their customers, and as a shareholder, I find it amusing that you manage to come off as sounding knowledgable about MFNX. This is totally fabricated -- they dont even have a datacenter in Boston


owned

I know that in my discussions with several companies that were having financial troubles that told me a very similar story about buying the card for them...

Originally posted by nopzor
You almost sound like you know what you're talking about :) As one of their customers, and as a shareholder, I find it amusing that you manage to come off as sounding knowledgable about MFNX. This is totally fabricated -- they dont even have a datacenter in Boston





good one! :agree:

Originally posted by nopzor
This is totally fabricated -- they dont even have a datacenter in Boston


Raj, are you saying I am a liar? Are your trying to say something about my integrity?

Go to One Summer Street in downtown Boston. They have a datacenter in the 7th floor of that building (first floor being Macy). The datacenter was opened end of last year/early this year. I did visit the datacenter about few weeks ago. Before you start calling or even imply me being a liar, please do your own research. If you want, I can forward all the emails correspondence I have that even mention the things I have said above.

I am sorry to hear that you are a shareholder of MFNX ... since too band their shares are pretty much junk already. But I don't think being a shareholder means you will know everything about the day to day operation of the compnay, doesn't it? Well, you don't know MFN has a datacenter in downtown Boston for sure.

cheers,
:beer:

Originally posted by CoreFighter
good one! :agree:

what's good about what?

Originally posted by Webjunkie
I know that in my discussions with several companies that were having financial troubles that told me a very similar story about buying the card for them...

You were told the exact thing about it. I even have the emails (well, with a spreasheet) explaning everything about this deal, buying this card for them and get good deal on bandwith for one year in exchange. And now people call me liar! Pissed me off!

cheers,
:beer:

dektong,

Perhaps your definition of a datacenter is different than mine. That's the only explanation I can think of. There is a difference between a datacenter and a POP.

Sincerely,

Raj Dutt
Voxel dot Net, Inc.

Originally posted by dektong


Raj, are you saying I am a liar? Are your trying to say something about my integrity?

Go to One Summer Street in downtown Boston. They have a datacenter in the 7th floor of that building (first floor being Macy). The datacenter was opened end of last year/early this year. I did visit the datacenter about few weeks ago. Before you start calling or even imply me being a liar, please do your own research. If you want, I can forward all the emails correspondence I have that even mention the things I have said above.

I am sorry to hear that you are a shareholder of MFNX ... since too band their shares are pretty much junk already. But I don't think being a shareholder means you will know everything about the day to day operation of the compnay, doesn't it? Well, you don't know MFN has a datacenter in downtown Boston for sure.

cheers,
:beer:

Raj,

It's definitely not a POP, I believe. It's a data center with racks and cages (only few racks though since they don't even have too many customer yet). They are trying to bring in new customers to this new data center. Even the term "data center" was not used by me alone, but by them.
But perharps their finanicial trouble will make this thousands of square feet space a mere POP?

I also visited Level3 datacenter in which MFN has a POP there.

But no matter whether this is a datacenter or a POP, they do have difficulty to buy this ethernet card and my story about they offering the potential customers to buy this ethernet card (into their core routers) in exchange on good deal on bandwith is not fabricated as you try to say. To quote what I said and tell people the story is fabricated is very insulting. The difference between a datacenter and a POP, though, I don't really care.

cheers,
:beer: