So Uhh, when did we decide this? (http://webhostingtalk.com/news.php)

That was posted on a few threads already.... but all of been deleted for some reason.

Yes.... threads & posts being mysteriously deleted..... Interesting Indeed.

We don't get to hear all of the chatter when iNet makes a big decision like this, but from what I understand, it might be done as a trial before it becomes permanent - six months, get feedback, revise, etc.

I have mixed feelings about it personally. I like the aggressive drive to reduce forum noise...but is it going too far?

Would have been nice to warn the staff it was coming. :(

... when MattF first sold WHT, this was actually the only thing I feared. Once this goes live its time for me to split...

Edited:
I dont soo much seeing this to be a problem with a business, but for those who make nothing off their site(s) (like me) and is not a host or whatever, it really sucks. IMO anyway.

This goes live, expect me to lurk exclusively up until they start charging to view the place.

I can see if filtering out pretty much everything in the lounge which incedently I generally hang out more... It'll filter out a lot of crap, but it'll filter out others (such as me). Then again, business is business and in the end, you gotta feed the wallet... ;)

With all due respect, the purpose of a forum is to:

1) make available good information for members and the general public to consume, and

2) make a profit.

This new policy does both. Think about how much crap this will filter out! And there's no arguing about the profits part.

/the_pm wonders whether mods will start getting paid...

Well,
What's with the Harry potter theme then?

I'd pay to advertise in the forums, but I wouldn't pay to help someone. I would pay to get help though.

Well,
What's with the Harry potter theme then?That's WHT having a sense of humor ;)

Is WHT ditching RackSpace and moving to Hogwarts, too? I hear they have unlimited hard drives. :o

/the_pm wonders whether mods will start getting paid...

If you get paid, you'll pass some money to me, right?

:lovewht:

That's awful imo. What WHT come to a screeching halt.

edit:

"We feel this new system will be an easy transition for all members and greatly improve the quality of posts, while keeping WebHostingTalk accessible to all."

Riiiight..... Some people don't have a paypal account. I do. However some places cannot have paypal. So you are not making it accessible to all.

This won't go down smoothly.

Well, they're going to have to work out a few bugs in this whole system, because not every country is allowed to participate in PayPal. I imagine they'll have to hack up user profiles to allow people to choose a default payment method. I would recommend queueing fees up to a certain monetary threshhold, to avoid undue processing charges.

None of this is all that hard to hack, luckily, even with everything having to be done custom. That still doesn't answer the question of whether it's a good idea though...

I thought it was just for the sales forums. The news post is worded poorly.

To be fair, it wasn't scheduled to be released until April 7 (check the date on it). Maybe it's still being revised?

Yes.... threads & posts being mysteriously deleted..... Interesting Indeed.
And the only staff members that were online were the Guides.....creapy

Is WHT ditching RackSpace and moving to Hogwarts, too? I hear they have unlimited hard drives. :o
No not hard drives, but unlimited bandwith. lol

This thread is making my fingers hurt, and I don't even have all that much to say.

Edit: BRB, dog's gotta go poo.

>.>

Interesting thread. :laugh:

Think about how much crap this will filter out! And there's no arguing about the profits part.

/the_pm wonders whether mods will start getting paid...

Ah, two reasons for the change. Now maybe there'll be some money for us. :)

Lois

You know, I would gladly accept a position as a professional forums poster within my areas of expertise if such a position existed. Yeah, I know there are posting services where you pay $20 for a couple hundred posts and whatnot, but I'm talking about a professional salary. That would certainly change my daily routine.

No wait, no it wouldn't. I'd just get paid to do what I do already :D

You guys act like you do something around here. Wanting pay and all psshhh :)


/me runs out of reach of the ban stick.

/the_pm wonders whether mods will start getting paid...
Well if the mods start getting paid here, then I will have to talk to Troy and get them to do the same at ProgrammingTalk. I mean how fair is that that. :angry: lol

Hmm, are the mods/ admins really online, but have the choice to choose "invisible mode"?Because it seems like some are posting, but shows they are offline.

:uzi:

Hmm, are the mods really online, but have the choice to choose "invisible mode"?Because it seems like some are posting, but shows they are offline (well, some of them)

:uzi:Same for the admins....weriod :wht:

/me is worried too...

I hope nothing happens to me :(

Money is overrated, just like the_pm :o

* Tyler whistles and wanders off

I'll just sit back and watch this thread grow.
:D

Im not going to spoil the fun
---edit---
ok who deleted my other post below? hmm? maybe the one who is author of the latest news? :D

You plannin' on taking the money and the_pm with it? :angry:

Nah, nevermind, you can have 'em. :smash:

Tyler, why are the mods/ admins offline, but really online?

I think you are just seeing things :)

They are online for me!!!!111

It's magic....

OK, so is it or is it not a joke. In all seriousness, this is such an excellent idea (and solution is superbly fair), that can someone please confirm this is coming?

OK, so is it or is it not a joke. In all seriousness, this is such an excellent idea (and solution is superbly fair), that can someone please confirm this is coming?
Umm, yeah, I seem to remember this going around a few years back toooo, right around this time ;) . Will believe it, when it actually starts happening :popcorn:

What are you guys talking about :(

Umm, yeah, I seem to remember this going around a few years back toooo, right around this time ;) . Will believe it, when it actually starts happening :popcorn:OK, so is it or is it not a joke. In all seriousness, this is such an excellent idea (and solution is superbly fair), that can someone please confirm this is coming?
May 1, 2006 will make you a believer :)

the_pm strikes again, being offline!

SniperDevil, your tiger claw is no match for my drunken monkey fu style ;)

/me thinks people should just quit trying and enjoy it :fork:

/me thinks people should just quit trying and enjoy it :fork:I agree, linux-tech! I think the new pay system is at least worth a try!

Sounds like a great plan to me. I'm sure you-all will get used to it and grow to love it.

Sounds like a great plan to me. I'm sure you-all will get used to it and grow to love it.
/me goes on a posting strike, effective tomorrow.

INET need to be paying me to post. Not the other way around. *hmph* :eek3:

I'm so confused... this thread was locked about 2 minutes ago… no?

I'm so confused... this thread was locked about 2 minutes ago… no?I think you're imagining things, my friend ;)

Locked???? Not for me. It's been open all along.

Grrr! it was just locked, now unlocked, and anon-e-mouse ate the "the" off of "the_pm"

Watch me do the Funky Chicken!

Grrr! it was just locked, now unlocked, and anon-e-mouse ate the "the" off of "the_pm"

Watch me do the Funky Chicken!
Oh sure, this is one big conspiracy against you

Next you're going to be accusing us of messing with your posts. :rolleyes:

HELP!! _PM messed up my post!!!!!!!

On my last post: Last edited by _pm : Today at 12:27 AM.

O-well!

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

Who is _PM? Never heard of the guy...

HELP!! _PM messed up my post!!!!!!!

On my last post: Last edited by _pm : Today at 12:27 AM.

Looks more like "Last edited by _ : Today at 02:57 PM. " to me.

Oh boy, this night is getting crazier then I thought it would...

Oh boy, this night is getting crazier then I thought it would...
I just blame it all on the mouse, she tends to get in the wires and play with things, and, well, things go crazy from there ;)

Another post deleted... :rolleyes: :(

I think my posts are in fertility. :D

I blame it on everyone who is posting offline :)

Moved to the 'Olivander and Wands' forum.

I'm not off-line. Shows up fine for me.

Is this an April Fool's Joke?

Why would there be requirement to pay to post? I mean it's all right for advertising forums, but who would pay just to post normally? Doesn't make sense.

No, its not a joke. Because it says April 7th - I think thats when it starts.

This is terrible.
You are undercharging. I cannot believe this. After all these years, WHT has failed so miserably in such an important decision.
Threads should cost at least $5, with posts being $1 each. Seriously, all this server hardware isn't free people.
I cannot believe what some of you have said. Leaving becuase you actually have to give a little to recieve a little?! Pllleeeeeeeeeeease.

To post normally. phbbt, get lost.
This is crap, I can't understand which forum is which, and harry potter sucks anyway.

This is terrible.
You are undercharging. I cannot believe this. After all these years, WHT has failed so miserably in such an important decision.
Threads should cost at least $5, with posts being $1 each. Seriously, all this server hardware isn't free people.
I cannot believe what some of you have said. Leaving becuase you actually have to give a little to recieve a little?! Pllleeeeeeeeeeease.
Oh really? So SWR would be atleast $24,000 down by now if that rule was implemented from day one. Still with those prices you can't actually expect some people to post every day. I mean there is some people who visit from countries who are not even eligible for a PayPal account.

Not only that i thought i was contributing to the community by buying a premium membership but i guess that was not enough money.....

Regards,

Oh really? So SWR would be atleast $24,000 down by now if that rule was implemented from day one. Still with those prices you can't actually expect some people to post every day. I mean there is some people who visit from countries who are not even eligible for a PayPal account.

Regards,

Better start buying lots of envelopes and checks, and mailing them in advance ;)

I still dont actually believe this is true and it is quite possible a joke. We will only know if someone from iNet posts and actually clears this up :peace:

I still dont actually believe this is true and it is quite possible a joke. We will only know if someone from iNet posts and actually clears this up :peace:

I think somebody from iNet already has posted... http://www.webhostingtalk.com/news.php. Also it looks like iNet has finally caught on to the fact that putting Harry Potter randomly all over the place is AMAZING for SEO.

I think somebody from iNet already has posted... http://www.webhostingtalk.com/news.php. Also it looks like iNet has finally caught on to the fact that putting Harry Potter randomly all over the place is AMAZING for SEO.
Yeah but that still could be a joke :uzi:

I think somebody from iNet already has posted... http://www.webhostingtalk.com/news.php. Also it looks like iNet has finally caught on to the fact that putting Harry Potter randomly all over the place is AMAZING for SEO.
Well gee, ya think, that wouldn't be what this thread would be about now would it? :P

This is terrible.
You are undercharging. I cannot believe this. After all these years, WHT has failed so miserably in such an important decision.
Threads should cost at least $5, with posts being $1 each. Seriously, all this server hardware isn't free people.
I cannot believe what some of you have said. Leaving becuase you actually have to give a little to recieve a little?! Pllleeeeeeeeeeease.

Uhh, they make money the more people post here. The most ad impressions, clicks, etc.. the more they can charge for their ads. Once they start charging, people will stop coming here. That is of course if they charge for every post like it is said.

There are plenty of forums which would be happy to have new people to post normally.

Heh. I just can't stand to make the post that ruins this for everyone. ;)

Can I pay in turds? Flaming turds? In brown bags? On the doorstep of a moderator? In April? :D

I thought the community discussed paying a reasonable fee for posts, such as $20?

I thought the community discussed paying a reasonable fee for posts, such as $20?
And that payment discussion (both) were linked to that news post.
Keep in mind, the "community" didn't discuss this, certain members of said "community" did. There were a whopping 71 votes which accounts for probably < 1% of the WHT "community".

If I have to pay to post, you wont ever see me again..
*
If I have to pay to view,, I wont ever see you !

Uhh, they make money the more people post here. The most ad impressions, clicks, etc.. the more they can charge for their ads. Once they start charging, people will stop coming here. That is of course if they charge for every post like it is said.

There are plenty of forums which would be happy to have new people to post normally.

We all know that ad money goes to moderator accomadations, like the rec room, saloon, jacuzzi, etc.

I think it was mentioned in the Admin area that Guides now have powers to move, delete, etc. as well as a post to the moderators about database issues nuking posts.

And the only staff members that were online were the Guides.....creapy

I thought the community discussed paying a reasonable fee for posts, such as $20?
Me and Troy sorted it all out. 5 cents a post will get rid of the riff raff, and usher WHT into a new dawn of peace and prosperity.

Live long and Prosper.

:lovewht:

I was just wondering, has anyone else noticed what day it is and why this might be here?

I was just wondering, has anyone else noticed what day it is and why this might be here?
Many have
Have you not noticed the individuals complaining about posts being deleted? :evilb:

Well If they actually bring this into action, Im outta here.

There are plenty of other communties that could do with our support.

As someone said excellently in another post, it's a capitalist society.

What's great about capitalism, is if you don't want to pay for something, and you don't like, you don't.

Oh, and Happy April Fools.

Very bad news. Will definitely quit WHT when this decision will be taken, sorry. I understand you have to make profit from the community, but this is just too much.

Regards

They make enough profit by the banners if I understand this thread correctly, web hosting talk is going to start charging people for posts and threads thats crazy, odds are its just an April fools joke.

EDIT: Has to be a joke, no way they would crash all this hard work put into this website. Do you know how much members they would lose if they charged sign ups?

This is just an April joke guys... :D

This is just an April joke guys... :D
Are you 100% sure of this? They may be tricky , and there was rumours of such a thing floating around a few years back (even a few mods threatening to quit), but never have we seen evidence of it.
Given the topics mentioned, and the fact that this was JUST brought up, and iNet just recently sold out, well, I think the possibility is a pretty good one.

Are you 100% sure of this? They may be tricky , and there was rumours of such a thing floating around a few years back (even a few mods threatening to quit), but never have we seen evidence of it.
Given the topics mentioned, and the fact that this was JUST brought up, and iNet just recently sold out, well, I think the possibility is a pretty good one.
Well, I can't be sure, it's just what I think. Common, it's posted on the 1st of April, and they wouldn't post such a news on a fool day :D

Well, I can't be sure, it's just what I think. Common, it's posted on the 1st of April, and they wouldn't post such a news on a fool day :D
THEY didn't, Mikey did!

Yea this looks like a joke.

How would Mikey have found this post unless told to post it by the mods/admins (who have stayed out of this thread for the best part).

Yea this looks like a joke.

How would Mikey have found this post unless told to post it by the mods/admins (who have stayed out of this thread for the best part).
Ask him, but don't be too quick to put it off.

Funny.........

:D:D:D:D

This is just an April joke guys... :D

Sad, sad... I haven't met someone as naive as you in a long time. Why not backup your thoughts with evidence?

Well, I can't be sure, it's just what I think. Common, it's posted on the 1st of April, and they wouldn't post such a news on a fool day :D
ub3r has this uncanny knack of "finding" stuff on the internet. :smash: And he uses it mostly to cause embarrassment to the site owner :bawling:

Sad, sad... I haven't met someone as naive as you in a long time. Why not backup your thoughts with evidence?
You're the naive if you believe in this... Take contact with me tomorrow, and we'll see who is naive :D

ub3r has this uncanny knack of "finding" stuff on the internet. :smash: And he uses it mostly to cause embarrassment to the site owner :bawling:
Yeah ub3r! I was young and needed the work damnit! :blush: :eek2:

Inet are obviously expecting members to pay for each post hoping more money in their pockets! But thats a stupid idea, i don't see why someone would pay in a general hosting forum, to recieve help etc. I can understand if its for only paying to advertise services/websites for sale as sitepoint does, but to help someone? Come on thats dumb. I wont be suprised if the forum becomes inactive.

If this is not a joke then its a stupid idea. Advertising yes, but not general posting. Why would people post here when they can go to other forums and even get paid to post as oposed to pay to post.

We will just have to wait till the end of today (when April fools finishes) or the 7th when it is official.

I'd say it should be rather obvious that this is an april fool :D.

Okay, lets say for 99,9%, leaving 0,1% chance of being true because someone was really stoned and drunk when posting this .... I would not even pay for advertising posts, because I consider them as return or benefit for my support postings (thats why I left Sitepoint) - but paying for regular posts? No, not really.

ub3r has this uncanny knack of "finding" stuff on the internet.
Unless ub3r was on it with WHT staff that is... Members know that if mods would have posted that - everyone would have taken it as a joke. But ub3r... makes people wonder... :D

I have been a fisherman all my life but this is the most productive fishing expedition I have ever seen. The bait presentations have been right on and all fish were played perfectly.:rofl: :lovewht:

How about a fixed cost for regular members

How about existing members receive proportional credits? We receive credits for free posts equalling our current post count. :D

(And we are allowed to sell the credits at a buck apiece). :banana:

Vito

Has WHT considered the fact that someone people wont be able to take part in the community simply because PayPal do not allow signups from the country that they live in. I can think of at least 2 designers who i have turned down purely because they cannot accept PP because there country is not listed with paypal. Or maybe they have thought of an alternative? Who knows :)

You got to love April 1st.......

Wow, some of you all are really blowing this out of porportion. (sp)


Vito you wish :)

It's real peoples!! PPP is coming and it's a reality!!

Where is sirus telling us all to use the search function to verify this :)

"It's real peoples!! PPP is coming and it's a reality!!"

It will be interesting to see what happens..... I personally will probably loose interest in WHT (I know some of you will think that is a positive) and give my support to a different forum.

Where is sirus telling us all to use the search function to verify this :)

:rofl:

Good one :smash:




:lovewht:

I'll just sit back and watch this thread grow.
:D

Im not going to spoil the fun
---edit---
ok who deleted my other post below? hmm? maybe the one who is author of the latest news? :D

I'm telling you... there's a sucker born every minute (or post, that is.....)

:lovewht:

Sirius

Where is sirus telling us all to use the search function to verify this :)

I wouldnt want to let you down... :rofl:

SEARCH! (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/search.php)

Sirius

I think it was mentioned in the Admin area that Guides now have powers to move, delete, etc. as well as a post to the moderators about database issues nuking posts.
Oh ok, thanks for the info....:lovewht:

I see there's still a few fish nibbling on here.

Nice one Ed.

This is just an April joke guys... :D

Most likely. WHT's popularity would go down in a couple of days if they actually did this. Who's gonna pay $1/post? Aussie Bob would have to pay like $17k.

:roll2:

Well, say what you want folks. I just got an email asking to work with Matt (The Prohacker) in the development forum they use for testing modfications. A few of us participated in testing the new warning hacks, so we're familiar with the development process iNet goes through.

Believe what you want to believe, but if this is a joke, they're sure taking it to the limit.

I don't know about you guys, but I love this idea.

1 - Cheaper advertising.
2 - More views for my ads!
3 - Less crap.

Good job WHT!

Perhaps it would help to focus more on the benefits of this system. Think of all the fluff posts this forum gets. We delete them when we see them, but in the meantime, they're a waste of time for everyone who reads those threads. Most fluff posters won't bother if they have to pay. And argumentative threads would have more useful content rather than personal attacks (which often happen in such threads). Would people want to pay to be rude?

With the bar raised for posts, people will want to spend more time here. :)

That said, I wonder if 5 cents per post is a bit high for frequent posters. Perhaps iNET could offer a bulk discount if it's paid in advance? Maybe such a discount could be worked into the Premium memberships.

Resistance to new ideas is normal, and all new ideas require some work to get the kinks out of them. Personally, I really like the idea of including a discount with Premium memberships. :)

Lois

I don't know about you guys, but I love this idea.

1 - Cheaper advertising.
2 - More views for my ads!
3 - Less crap.

Good job WHT!

If this gets enforced, less people will come here, therefore your ads wont get more views.

Less crap is probably possible, but then there would barely be any new posts.

And advertising is alright now since it's more expensive but soo many people come here, so it pays off.

How suprising, all the moderators agree with iNet's choice... You guys are just really hilarious :D

How suprising, all the moderators agree with iNet's choice...

Not completely. As you can see a few posts up, I thought the price was a little high for frequent posters. :)

Lois

Bear's post from first page:

Would have been nice to warn the staff it was coming. :(

:)

It's April Fool's Joke!

Yes, but you still agree with this decision... Anyway, you guys gave me a good laugh.

It's April Fool's Joke!
Is it? :angel:

It could be, who knows...

It is... I told you ! :D

I can just see it now. For you Seinfeld fans out there, remember when Elaine would look at a guy and wonder if he was "sponge worthy"? We'll all now look at a thread before posting and wonder if it's "post worthy". :emlaugh:

Vito

Is it? :angel:

Well they would probably talk with you (WHT staff) about this in your mod/private forum, so yes, it's an april fool's joke. If it's not, I'll be surprised.

Well they would probably talk with you (WHT staff) about this in your mod/private forum, so yes, it's an april fool's joke. If it's not, I'll be surprised.

Not all mods keep up with everything all the time. Everyone can miss things occasionally. Paul and I knew about it, as you can tell from our posts in this thread.

Lois

at the bottom of the news about the PPP it said have a nice April fools day, I even have a screen shot of it :D

I think ya'll are seein' things. :crazy:

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4903/untitled10jy1.jpg

:lovewht:

I think ya'll are seein' things. :crazy:

I'll look for the screen shot I took :D

:smash:



:lovewht:

I can just see it now. For you Seinfeld fans out there, remember when Elaine would look at a guy and wonder if he was "sponge worthy"? We'll all now look at a thread before posting and wonder if it's "post worthy".Not that there's anything wrong with that.

at the bottom of the news about the PPP it said have a nice April fools day, I even have a screen shot of it :D
Yeah, like no one has ever photoshopped a screenshot on April Fool's Day before.

This is a "sponge worthy" thread? :crazy:

Well they would probably talk with you (WHT staff) about this in your mod/private forum
Not every one has keys... :bawling:

Lois posts make it sound so real, I thought I miss out on something.

It's April Fool's Joke!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :eek2:

Thing that gets me, is what if they were doing this as a joke/test to see if we liked the idea or not !

Anything is possible. :gthumb:

Anything is possible. :gthumb:

if you just believe

I tried to tell yallz, but They kept deleting my threat/post :(

Nice one there :)

I tried to tell yallz, but They kept deleting my threat/post :(

Then you ruin everyone's fun ;)

Then you ruin everyone's fun ;)
Although, I'm a party pooper, People got really upset.

Well guys and gals, that was fun. I haven't laughed that much in quite awhile. Awards should go to several mods for their expert bait presentations.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :eek2:
I am with you on this one, brother. :crying:

What an excellent idea - make everyone happy by introducing PPP, then just abandon the idea. Who came up with the suggestion of lying to the community? Personally I find this distasteful.

I just wasted my time reading this thread.

I just wasted my time reading this thread.
:angry: People complain about everything they can think of :angry:

It was a great idea which should have been put into practice. The advertising forums were definately in need of reform.