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View Full Version : Looking for a new reseller host - advise please
gzeus 03-26-2006, 10:16 AM features I need:
- unix/linux server
- cpanel and whm
- Unlimited domains, php, perl, mysql, postrgresql, addon domains, email accounts, fantastico, cron... all the normal features most resellers provide,
-Able to grow with me (free upgrade, free downgrade),
-1Gb space, 20Gb badwidth/month,
-.htaccess allowed in all directories, all addon domains and all accounts,
-.htaccess rewrite rules allowed, globals on rewrite allowed,
-.htaccess php_flag rules allowed,
- safemode off,
- 777 permissions allowed (without tech help),
-choice of at least 3 different ips to install accounts on for my customers included in the price,
- no setup fee,
- pay through paypal or money order ,
- budget up to $7/month
Thanks,
Bo
dhcart 03-26-2006, 10:30 AM We recommend Site5 if you look for a reliable hosting company and pay a little more. I don't believe what you can find a reliable provider with your budget.
ihostfried 03-26-2006, 10:36 AM Who was your old host?
gzeus 03-26-2006, 10:48 AM ResellerZoom. Their setup is extremely restrictive. I am running a real estate listings site and need liberal server setups without safemode on. I am of course willing to pay more, but have experienced bad service and poor uptime from budget and expensive hosts, so I don't think price is necessarily an indication of a good reliable host. My starting space and bandwith are very low. Most resellers offer number up to 10x as much resources for 15-35 dollars. So, my budget is not extra low. Again, I am willing to pay more but not for the sake of paying more.
ihostfried 03-26-2006, 10:52 AM How soon are you wanting to transfer?
gzeus 03-26-2006, 11:03 AM Although I have a backup host I need a provider quite quickly in the next days.
ihostfried 03-26-2006, 11:12 AM What domain registrar do you use?
BrettB 03-26-2006, 11:33 AM As dhcart has suggested, you may want to increase your budget to find a reliable host and all of the features you need.
ayksolutions 03-26-2006, 11:58 AM He already increased his budget to $35/mo I believe which should be sufficient for what he wants to do.
The only thing I'm not sure about is the "free upgrades/downgrades" part. The upgrades certainly will not be free.
Most of the resellers provide those services, so, you should not have any problems finding one. I can't recommend one as I really have no experience with too many resellers in the market today.
So, you were paying only 7$, on their budget plans (which they clearly always said were only for the basic of basic sites), and you have a clientele which I assume ays you either comission or set fees to have the right to be listed with you.
I really do hope you raise your budget and find something reliable, or go on RZ's advanced plans.
Edit : 10x the ressources for 15-35 doesn't mean that it's reliable. Go with what you actually need, and pay a decent price.
BrettB 03-26-2006, 12:07 PM I'm not seeing where he increased his budget to $35 (I see him comparing 10X the resources). WK-Anthony is on the dot, even though you may be getting more, it doesn't mean that it is reliable.
Swelly 03-26-2006, 12:51 PM Once again, looks as if someone is going off of pricing structure rather then quality service, and support. If you are looking for budget hosting you should try out some directories and look in the budget section. Though you might night find any providers that will offer GREAT service and support for $7.00 a month, but you might get lucky.
Lpal-Jay 03-26-2006, 01:03 PM Once again, looks as if someone is going off of pricing structure rather then quality service, and support. If you are looking for budget hosting you should try out some directories and look in the budget section. Though you might night find any providers that will offer GREAT service and support for $7.00 a month, but you might get lucky.
I strongly disagree HostFrog, being cheap doesn't actually mean bad service as most people here say right away when they hear the word 'cheap'. In the past i've tried very cheap hosts and the hosting has been ideal.
I've even been hosted on a hugely overselling host before and the uptime and support was good. It was better then a host who didn't oversell, who i used a really long time ago.
I also use to offer cheap prices and i remember a forum about us saying that our service is most likely going to be poor and that. That wasn't nice as most of them had never even used us before.
I just feel too many people jump to the conclusion that cheap hosting is bad service right away without considering the decent hosts who may lose customers because people keep saying this.
ScottJ 03-26-2006, 01:07 PM It looks like you wont have any trouble finding a provider now with your higher budget. You may have to email the web hosts sales department to order the special features like extra ips, but everything else you have listed is pretty standard.
ldcdc 03-26-2006, 01:10 PM I believe there is a reason why reseller plans from many seemingly reputable companies tend to start at over $20, just as there's a reason why the budget companies often start their shared hosting packages at roughly $7-8.
It looks like you wont have any trouble finding a provider now with your higher budget.Higher budget? As the other poster above, I don't see where he stated that he's increasing his budget.
Most resellers offer number up to 10x as much resources for 15-35 dollars. So, my budget is not extra low. Quite a few shared hosting providers are now offering 500GB+ for ~$8, but this doesn't mean that 250Gb for $8 is particularly reasonable. :)
Lpal-Jay 03-26-2006, 01:18 PM I believe there is a reason why reseller plans from most seemingly reputable companies tend to start at over $20, just as there's a reason why the budget companies often start their shared hosting packages at roughly $7-8. :)
In my opinion, I feel the more "reputable" companies offer more expensive hosting simply because they're more well known and some people will buy from them as they haven't heard of these budget hosts. I remember seeing microsoft offering like 5GB bandwidth and 100mb space for $12/month. This will work for them as people who don't know much about hosting will buy from them as they're much more well-known but still i will agree they're service will be good. the budget companies have to offer for lower so if someone may see its cheaper then so and so host then they may go for it. I just feel people should stop saying that budget companies will have either poor support or uptime and let reviews do that.
Just my opinion really.
ldcdc 03-26-2006, 01:48 PM In my opinion, I feel the more "reputable" companies offer more expensive hosting simply because they're more well known and some people will buy from them as they haven't heard of these budget hosts.I'm not necessarily talking about how cheap the packages are. I'm talking about the price of the smallest package.
Even if we go back to the basic idea that resellers buy in bulk and sell retail, it would mean that reseller should expect to pay a larger minimum amount than a "regular" shared customer.
But hey, the whole industry is upside down. It's becoming unreasonable to even try to apply reason to it. :P
Yash-JH 03-26-2006, 01:58 PM The whole problem with cheap, > $10 per month reseller packages offering large disk space quotas is that a reseller is far more likely to use the available resources than a shared customer.
The hosts that have been successful with large diskspace/bandwidth quotas at low price have a pretty tight business model. Such plans offered by these companies allow only 1 domain and limited databases/email.. As a result, a customer can rever really use all the available resources...
But those that are offering unlimited reseller plans with large diskspace/bandwidth quotas will see heavier resource usage..
Since these low-priced reseller plans offer most customers all they'd ever need in terms of resources, the same plan is going to attract low-usage as well as high-usage customers.. The end result is that most of the host's clients will be low-paying customers, paying much lesser for much higher resource consumption... The lower prices combined with heavier resource usage is what makes such hosts so unsuccessful
A good host is going to ensure that as a client's resource usage grows.. they end up paying more for their resources, one way or another..
gzeus 03-26-2006, 10:55 PM Alright, so from what I gather here is that I got no recommendations, just some rants.
I have tried some hosts before and can say that the smaller hosts (which are normally cheaper as well) provide far better support and are far more flexible in their setup and attitude. ResellerZoom basically has their restrictive policy of no 777 permissions on any folders or files and that is that. If you ask them to chmod some folders themselves for you, because your site won't work otherwise, they say no, we can't have 777 permissions. Well bugger off then.
Some here are trying to up the price of hosting (especially reseller hosting) by suggesting that any host that is cheaper than something (themselves maybe) might not be worth much. Margins are getting thin in hosting and that is an understandable reaction.
Anyone familliar with webhostingbuzz.com? They responded to my queries very quickly and politely and they support a liberal setup. I might give them a try, we'll see...
ihostfried 03-26-2006, 11:02 PM People aren't allowed to give you recommendations on their own hosting company here. Its against the rules.
Lpal-Jay 03-27-2006, 03:46 PM Anyone familliar with webhostingbuzz.com? They responded to my queries very quickly and politely and they support a liberal setup. I might give them a try, we'll see...
I've never personally heard of them but they looks decent, prices are low but the only way to really kind out if they're good or not would be to try them. They do offer a 30 day money back policy if needed ;)
HostTitan 03-27-2006, 05:02 PM You should be able to find a reliable host if you're only planning on using 1 gigabyte--the bandwidth may be slightly more difficult but I'm sure if you email several hosts they'll cut a deal with you, especially on a long term commit you may find you'll save a few bucks.
Good luck
ldcdc 03-27-2006, 08:33 PM Anyone familliar with webhostingbuzz.com?Just by name. Somehow I never got this story out of my head: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=314977&highlight=webhostingbuzz+findmyhosting
It doesn't really say anything about their service, but it says something about them as a company.
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