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Erich
05-14-2002, 11:37 AM
What's everyone's opinion on that deal? I already got one. It says 1 GB GB RAM on the front page although on the order form it's just 512, but I assume I got 1 GB RAM.


Is this box good for 200k visitors with 2-2.5 Mio hits a day?

That would be 200k pageviews with a little php in each (but no MySQL) and each pageview causes about 10-13 hits, plus mod_rewrite and htaccess?



spelling

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 12:03 PM
Did your server come with 1gig of ram?

tell me

if you don't know

login the server
and type

cat /proc/meminfo

paste it

anyway

i called rackshack, i asked them, "If i bought the amd athlon xp 1900 would it come with 1gig of ram or just 512"

they told me that they didnt know.....???????????????
i said well let me talk to someone who does konw

he told me "actually nobody konws, they kind of snuck that in there on us unexpectedly"

he said that they were told that it only came with 512mb of ram, but now it says an extra 512, he never knew abou tthat

WHO HERE bought that server and got 1gig??

i just ordered one

if they said on the frontpage we get an extra 512 FREE, i want my 512 simple as that.

ill be getting the login details soon, hopefully it has 1gig.

Erich
05-14-2002, 12:07 PM
just did it:

total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached:
Mem: 921243648 228569088 692674560 73728 56709120 93224960
Swap: 2097434624 0 2097434624
MemTotal: 899652 kB
MemFree: 676440 kB
MemShared: 72 kB
Buffers: 55380 kB
Cached: 91040 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 121256 kB
Inact_dirty: 25236 kB
Inact_clean: 0 kB
Inact_target: 229376 kB
HighTotal: 0 kB
HighFree: 0 kB
LowTotal: 899652 kB
LowFree: 676440 kB
SwapTotal: 2048276 kB
SwapFree: 2048276 kB

ToastyX
05-14-2002, 12:15 PM
What the heck? That's like...896 MB of RAM... :eek: ...and nobody at RackShack knows what's going on? That speaks for itself.

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 12:21 PM
nah

chill

erich, type

free -m

and then copy and paste everything.

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 12:21 PM
it looks like 1gig is *IN* there
but just its not showing on redhat

once i had aproblem where a box had 2gigs of ram, but only 1gig was showing

because the kernel would only use that much

had to recompile kernel

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 12:30 PM
now RS says for sure 1gig will be what you get

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 12:36 PM
erich

how fast did you get your serv, and was it a control panel (ensim or plesk) or just rh 7.2 plain

Erich
05-14-2002, 12:36 PM
did free -m

total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 878 218 660 0 54 88
-/+ buffers/cache: 74 803
Swap: 2000 0 2000


hmmm, shall I be worried now?

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 12:37 PM
erich

type dmesg
paste the entire thing here

Erich
05-14-2002, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by clocker1996
erich

how fast did you get your serv, and was it a control panel (ensim or plesk) or just rh 7.2 plain

I got it instantly, I think I was the first or second to order

It's plain Redhat 7.2, at least supposed to be

Erich
05-14-2002, 12:39 PM
dmesg:


Linux version 2.4.9-31 (bhcompile@daffy.perf.redhat.com) (gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-98)) #1 Tue Feb 26 06:53:37 EST 2002
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000003eff0000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000003eff0000 - 000000003eff8000 (ACPI data)
BIOS-e820: 000000003eff8000 - 000000003f000000 (ACPI NVS)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fffc0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
Warning only 896MB will be used.
Use a HIGHMEM enabled kernel.
On node 0 totalpages: 229376
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 225280 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=303 BOOT_FILE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.9-31
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 1592.903 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 3178.49 BogoMIPS
Memory: 897036k/917504k available (1740k kernel code, 18004k reserved, 90k data, 216k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 9, 2097152 bytes)
CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0383f9ff c1cbf9ff 00000000, vendor = 2
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0383f9ff c1cbf9ff 00000000 00000000
CPU: After generic, caps: 0383f9ff c1cbf9ff 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 0383f9ff c1cbf9ff 00000000 00000000
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1900+ stepping 02
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
Checking for popad bug... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfdb01, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Using IRQ router SIS [1039/0008] at 00:01.0
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.14)
Starting kswapd v1.8
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.5.0 initialized
pty: 512 Unix98 ptys configured
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e
block: queued sectors max/low 595336kB/464264kB, 1792 slots per queue
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
ide: Assuming 33MHz PCI bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
SIS5513: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 01
SIS5513: chipset revision 208
SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
SiS730
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xff00-0xff07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xff08-0xff0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
hda: ST360021A, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
hda: 117231408 sectors (60022 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=7297/255/63, UDMA(100)
Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2 hda3
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
md: autorun ...
md: ... autorun DONE.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 8192 buckets, 64Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 262144 bind 65536)
Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
Freeing initrd memory: 322k freed
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 216k freed
Adding Swap: 2048276k swap-space (priority -1)
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
PCI: Found IRQ 5 for device 00:01.3
PCI: Sharing IRQ 5 with 00:01.2
usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 0xf892b000, IRQ 5
usb-ohci.c: usb-00:01.3, Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 7001 (#2)
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 3 ports detected
PCI: Found IRQ 5 for device 00:01.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 5 with 00:01.3
usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 0xf892d000, IRQ 5
usb-ohci.c: usb-00:01.2, Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 7001
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 3 ports detected
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.11, 3 Oct 2001 on ide0(3,3), internal journal
kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.11, 3 Oct 2001 on ide0(3,1), internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [PCSPP,TRISTATE]
parport0: cpp_daisy: aa5500ff(38)
parport0: assign_addrs: aa5500ff(38)
parport0: cpp_daisy: aa5500ff(38)
parport0: assign_addrs: aa5500ff(38)
sis900.c: v1.07.11 4/10/2001
PCI: Found IRQ 12 for device 00:01.1
eth0: Unknown PHY transceiver found at address 1.
eth0: Using transceiver found at address 1 as default
eth0: SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet at 0xd400, IRQ 12, 00:07:95:e9:0f:7b.
eth0: Media Link Off
eth0: Media Link Off
eth0: Media Link Off

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 12:39 PM
ya
see
in your dmesg
it says

Warning only 896MB will be used.

so i believe that there is 1gig in there, the box just isnt compiled for it

you'd have to recompile to be able to use 1 full gig

Erich
05-14-2002, 12:41 PM
hah

great :o

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 12:41 PM
erich

check your private message.

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 12:42 PM
and back to your original post

yes this type of serv would be just fine for what you are doing.

Erich
05-14-2002, 12:49 PM
so... are all servers like this?

should I ask rackshack to either replace or recompile it?

Could I recompile it remotely? Damn I already got the other one where I have to (want to) remove ensim now this...


Headsurfer, if you read this, how about taking both (this 896 MB one and the Pot Luck Ensim from yesterday) back and giving me 2 x of these XP1900, both ready with 1GB, and I just pay the difference (199+99-(1+119))?

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 12:54 PM
nah

with rackshack it's what you see is what you get

no breaks

its all robotic

anyway, rackshack might do support like recompile kernel, i am not sure. they said they arent sure right now, they will konw for sure later..?

Doug from RS said: they only offer network and hardware support.

and yes you can recompile remotely, from your house, or wherever you are right now, however it is risky.

If you mess up, your server might not come back online.

so you recompile, reboot and pray it works.

Erich
05-14-2002, 01:02 PM
hmmmm I want them to do it then. After all I paid 199 setup and it says 1 GB. I'll email headsurfer and see what he says.

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 01:02 PM
open a trouble ticket

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 01:02 PM
come on irc dude

or go to their chat or whatever

irc.ev1.net or goto their chat

Patrick-EV1
05-14-2002, 01:26 PM
If you submit a TT it will be fixed.

Erich
05-14-2002, 01:48 PM
I submitted a ticket now

Erich
05-14-2002, 03:12 PM
It's been resolved (recompiled I assume) and the server shows 1 GB now

:beer:

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 07:01 PM
hmm..... i just got the amd athlon xp server... and it seems to have some compiling issues. anything i compile. i get
somethign like this:
In file included from alias.c:2232:
expr2.c: In function `zzlex':
expr2.c:1583: Internal error: Segmentation fault.
Please submit a full bug report.
See <URL:http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/> for instructions.
gmake[1]: *** [alias.o] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dev/BitchX/source'
make: *** [BitchX] Error 2
seg fault everywhere
it seems as though gcc is broken on these servers? i just got it..

i had problems compiling openssh too...... and ive compiled openssh over a dozen times problem free
even on the potluck.
it was fine

everythign that i compile is a seg fault.

anyone else have this problem?

erich how about you?

try compiling something.

Erich
05-14-2002, 07:11 PM
Uhhh, I rather don't experiment as long as everything seems to be o.k., cuz I am not as experienced as you. I need to get it running tomorrow, I will install webmin, setup a few domains and start pushing the hell out of my little 4 server cluster immediately and start making back the bling bling I spent. It's about time already.



Thanks for your help in the 896 MB issue
:love:

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 07:15 PM
Dude, what is wrong with you?

What if somethign is wrong with the server, you are going to have to face it eventually

Just do this (As root):

cd /tmp
wget ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/openssh-3.1p1.tar.gz
then when it's done downloading

type
tar xzvf openssh*
then cd openssh*
./configure --with-md5-passwords --with-tcp-wrappers
then type make

and if it crashes, or stops, or something like that, then something is wrong with YOURS too.. and YOU need to get it fixed.

Note: the instructions/steps i gave you were only a test. that will NOT Install anything. i repeat, it will not install anything. and anyone on this forum can verify that.

You shouldnt have an atittude like that..

I just want to see, becuase you have the same box as I do.

If it goes through, and no errors, then fine. cool, just tell me.

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 07:16 PM
i think it might be a memory issue.

Erich
05-14-2002, 07:27 PM
ah well before you beat me up... hold on

ToastyX
05-14-2002, 07:31 PM
Sounds like even more cases of RackShack selling defective servers. You'd think they'd bother to test the servers before selling them. This is happening way too often. :rolleyes:

...and clocker1996 is right. It's better to find out if there's a problem before you start using it. The instructions he gave will only compile OpenSSH. It won't install it, so you won't have to worry about breaking anything.

Erich
05-14-2002, 07:34 PM
seems that it worked, I got pages over pages of messages and am at the prompt again now

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 07:53 PM
they are going to do a ram test, and see whats up.

i think the ram is bad.

they compiled openssh 5 times on my serv and it died once

1/5

so that tells ya something.

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 07:54 PM
erich
alright

you can type
cd /tmp
rm -rf openssh*

if you want

and go on with your business

Erich
05-14-2002, 07:57 PM
clocker, while I do that could you help me with this one


how many files (jpeg, average size 50 kb) do you think could such a server (XP 1900, 1 GB RAM) serve max. per day or sec.?

Assumed there was no 10 MBit cap but 100 MBit? This is obviously not for the rackshack offer...

I think 1 Million such files a day for sure but how about 3, 5 or 10 Million a day? It could serve 30 files or so per second at decent speed?

I am trying to evaluate what portion of a 100 MBit line I could satisfy with static 50 kb files with one such server, how many hits it could serve

clocker1996
05-14-2002, 08:23 PM
no idea dude
dont wanna keep you in suspense
<CasoN> um
<CasoN> My rackshack can do 1600K/s
<CasoN> that's 32 files a second
<CasoN> that's 1920 files a minute
<CasoN> 115,200 per hour

maxbear
05-14-2002, 11:16 PM
I got the same problem of my new XP1900.

Their reply in TT is:

[root@plain proc]# free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 899652 299772 599880 72 64168 146020
-/+ buffers/cache: 89584 810068
Swap: 2048276 0 2048276


Verified problem. Please investigate.
5/14/02 6:23:50 PM
swap ram
5/14/02 8:24:18 PM
RAM swapped

I got no idea what they mean.

web_res
05-14-2002, 11:31 PM
For some reason they decided to swap your ram... Hopefully because it was defective...

Or they might be misreading a software isssue... I have no clue what's going on with these new amd servers.

joeyteel
05-15-2002, 03:10 AM

technoart
05-15-2002, 04:59 AM
To clear up the confusion -- the "XP" in "AMD XP" stands for "Xtreme Performance" ...

FYI, AMD XP cpu's received an overall score of 8.1 of 10 in LinuxHardware.org's review, taking home their "Top Honors" award.

See:

http://www.linuxhardware.org/features/01/10/09/1514233.shtml

clocker1996
05-15-2002, 07:33 AM
i love ignorant people :)

clocker1996
05-15-2002, 07:38 AM
wonder what's taking so long to swpa my ram.

maxbear
05-15-2002, 08:55 AM
RS, just fixed the problem. I got 1GB of RAM now. :stickout

clocker1996
05-15-2002, 02:24 PM
yea
ram stick was bad in my machine
they swaped it now
everything is good now
:)

patrick @ ev1 rules.

clocker1996
05-15-2002, 02:44 PM
WTF
after they swapped my ram
my processor speed changed...... what the ****

processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 6
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 1194.694
cache size : 256 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips : 2385.51

it went from a 1.6ghz to 1194mhz what is going on?

if anyone got the amd athlon xp 1900 maybe you should check what processor you have
i find this very weird.

cat /proc/cpuinfo

erich how about you?

clocker1996
05-15-2002, 03:01 PM
i guess in the bios it was set to athlon 1200+

thanks to patrick its fixed now

but people should always check when they buy servers what exactly the hardware specs is :)

you could be using a 8 gig hd when u bought a 40 gig

ToastyX
05-15-2002, 03:05 PM
Looks like the model name is wrong too. It should display:

model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1900+

web_res
05-15-2002, 03:17 PM
This is unbelievable.... I supported RS's decision to use XP's only if they were extremely careful with all components (MB's, RAM, Fan, etc.)...

I don't see any indication that they were even slightly careful.

Of course, I'm just one of 5k + server owners that happen's to visit their forum.

Erich
05-15-2002, 07:07 PM
mine says Athlon XP 1900+

maxbear
05-15-2002, 09:03 PM
Oh no, mine is the same:

processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 6
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 1194.694
cache size : 256 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips : 2385.51

What's going wrong?

clocker1996
05-15-2002, 09:07 PM
see
glad you checked

send in a trouble ticket

when you do, tell them you bought an amd athlon xp 1900, andthey swapped your ram, but your processor speed says 1194mhz

also tell them that in the BIOS its set to athlon 1200+

tell them to change it to athlon 1900+

tell them to change it to what its suppose to be..

maxbear
05-15-2002, 09:18 PM
Hi clocker1996,

How can i check the cpu info for BIOS? Why command should I type?

May be we should most a message at RS forum to let everyone know about this.

clocker1996
05-15-2002, 10:09 PM
no..

they have to locally go in the bios and change it

it was probably a mistake.

uclaboyz
05-16-2002, 03:29 AM
hi clocker,

how do I finish installing openSSH?

thanks,
Steven

Patrick-EV1
05-16-2002, 10:17 AM
Problems such as this should be submitted in a trouble ticket and will be fixed quickly.