Web Definity have another professional web hosting design for sale. We rarely release design for sale like this, unless a customer doesn’t choose to use a good quality design – This design is one of them.

We are selling the high quality design located at: http://www.webdefinity.com/definity02

We are posting the price at $600 US and in that package we will completely transfer your old design to this new design. We will customise every page to fit this new design to give your company that professional, high quality look. We work quickly and effectively and can have the design completed in 1 – 2 weeks maximum. The design is also 100% original and unique - and it WILL NOT be re-sold.

For reference, some of our recent web hosting designs included: h and h .

If you are interested, or have any questions or comments, please feel free to get in touch with Web Definity by:

E-mail: design@webdefinity.com
ICQ: 54685616
AOL: AAAgainstAll

We also custom build web sites, so if you like our work please feel free to get in touch with us to discuss a design for your company. Thanks for your time.

Kind Regards,

Web Definity – Web Design.
http://www.webdefinity.com

P.S. Price may rise with bidding – so please get in early.

Good design but not worth 600

i agree, awesome design, but I think your over pricing.

you guys must want everything for free. this design is well worth $600 especially when they will convert your old site to the new design included.

Well IMO its not worth 600 but looks the biz well done :)

Just about anywhere will customize it for you for only around 100-200

LOL, just ask hostrocket or datacolo if they were able to get a professional design for only $200

those designs include a lot more, such as full backends...

but yeah, this design is worth more than 200, but 600? hmmm, don't think so, you haven't even shown us what a page with content looks like.

hostrocket paid thousands because they got it from pixelbrick and its an amazing design which is worth the money this isn't

I think everyone here just gets pushed really low with their prices. How are you meant to make decent money as a designer if you're only pulling say 300 per job? Some people even settle for 40, I don't really understand it. This design is not as good as something that pixelbrick could produce, but it is still alright, and you are paying about a 5th of what pixelbrick would charge.

Good point and 600 is probably 1/100 of what pixelbrick charges

IMPORTANT

Why is "Rapidisupport" part of the title? If the reason is what I think it is, I've got some information you people will want.

I'm sorry, but Web Definity is not some back yard business run by 12-year-old kids pretending to know what they are talking about - unlike most people from these forums.


We are a quality company, with qualified designers. In that respect, we design professional layouts for professional companies. That's why we understand that a percentage of you will not be impressed with the cost of the design.

We believe in getting what you paid for, and we set our prices to competitive rates. Trust me this is allot cheaper than most companies for what you receive.

For those of you who may not be satisfied with our work - or want to know what you get for your money, then please feel free to take a look at some of our recent work: (some completed, and some are still being developed).

http://www.webdefinity.com/ihosted
http://www.webdefinity.com/peakhost
http://www.webdefinity.com/starhoster
http://www.webdefinity.com/hostingpackages
http://www.hostmob.com
http://www.okgonow.com
http://www.vdhost.com

Once again, we design quality web sites - If you are interested, then please get in touch.

We are still selling: http://www.webdefinity.com/definity02 . So if you would like to make a bid on the design, then please feel free to do so by contacting:

E-mail: design@webdefinity.com
ICQ: 54685616
AOL: AAAgainstAll

Kind Regards,

Tom Macdonald.
Web Definity Head Designer.

Can you please answer my question?

Originally posted by RCIndustries
http://www.webdefinity.com/ihosted

That looks pretty similar to www.fastwebsites.com
The menu bits and the general concept.

Originally posted by NetXL


That looks pretty similar to www.fastwebsites.com
The menu bits and the general concept.

Umm... yeah. I sense some sort of copying on that top header O_o And the f*cking orange arrows.

RDIndustries, you're a joke. Get the hell out of here... people like you tend to piss me off.

Yeah, they are very similiar, even have the same exact little "orange" arrows. Ummm......

geiger, i guess youre referring to ripping. you should let us know since there are other allegations here too. protect the consumer.

First off - this design is 100% original. The reason for any rapidisupport details on this design is because theat is who we designed the site for, but they didn't want to use the design.

Feel free to contact rapidisupport.com - we have nothing to hide.

If you are interested in the design then get in touch. If not, then please move on.

Regards,

Tom Macdonald.

P.S - Regarding JedKents comments - WE really don't appreciate your comments.. Get a life mate.

Originally posted by RCIndustries
First off - this design is 100% original. The reason for any rapidisupport details on this design is because theat is who we designed the site for, but they didn't want to use the design.

Feel free to contact rapidisupport.com - we have nothing to hide.

If you are interested in the design then get in touch. If not, then please move on.

Regards,

Tom Macdonald.

P.S - Regarding JedKents comments - WE really don't appreciate your comments.. Get a life mate.

Where'd the menu bullets come from?

are you actually making money from these ?
cause I swear, I'm in high school and I can do photoshop work just as good.

/could use an extra 600 bucks =)

Hey hey hey!!!

Stop it please. I was NOT referring to ripping and you people completely got carried away for no reason. rapidisupport had me do some designs for them and then went *poof*, basically. I talked on ICQ with WD and they should understand what happened.

Please do not go off like that again on anyone. Cold accusations are not a positive thing. I would appreciate you NOT put anyone's reputation as a person or a designer at risk because you cannot control yourselves. No offense intended.

Originally posted by RCIndustries
I'm sorry, but Web Definity is not some back yard business run by 12-year-old kids pretending to know what they are talking about - unlike most people from these forums.. . . . . . . .

Tom Macdonald.
Web Definity Head Designer. I see your post is intended for "most people from these forums." (in your words - not my opinion)
But that's not a way to gain respect from any person from these forums. :rolleyes:

I think he's 100% correct in saying that. People in these forums ARE desensitized to the real world and real-life design prices. It's just the way it is.

Very nice work, regardless of what others say, as long as all of it is original it's quite impressive. $600 is nothing for an entire site and for a template as nice as this I think it's quite fair. If it has intense flash one should charge even more.

Keep it up. Some folks will always try to say your stuff looks like other peoples'. Guess what folks, the web is not exactly an aesthetically diverse place, at least not in the realm of corporate web-hosting. Yes, sometimes templates/sites will bear striking resemblances to other sites, does that mean they are worthless rip-offs? Nope, not unless actual content is "ripped" directly from the other website.

Why jump down this guy's throat? Maybe he is just a great designer who knows how to exploit the corporate aesthetic just as well as Pixelbrick does. While I agree the orange arrows that were used in fastwebsites.com and in his template are a bit fishy, but over all I think the guy is probably just a great designer trying to make ends meat.

Just my 2 pennies.

Originally posted by geiger
I think he's 100% correct in saying that. People in these forums ARE desensitized to the real world and real-life design prices. It's just the way it is. That may be closer to something I wouldn't need to respond to.

But, to say, "12-year-old kids pretending to know what they are talking about" is not only rude and arrogant. It's, well, okay. . . . it's rude. :(

Yes, it's on the verge of rude. But it's also true and frank. Let's not get carried away, though. No more discussion on this, please :)

Originally posted by geiger
Yes, it's on the verge of rude. But it's also true and frank. Let's not get carried away, though. No more discussion on this, please :) No it isn't true and frank.
And if you don't want to discuss it; quit bringing it up.

Well this thread certainly is a disaster, for many reasons. First the design was most likely inspired (heavily) by the pixelbrick site. The similar (lighter/darker), and in some cases exact same graphics, would make one wonder, and I don't think that's an unreasonable point to bring up.

As far as the pricing:
Originally posted by RCIndustries
We are posting the price at $600 US and in that package we will completely transfer your old design to this new design. We will customise every page to fit this new design to give your company that professional, high quality look. We work quickly and effectively and can have the design completed in 1 – 2 weeks maximum. The design is also 100% original and unique - and it WILL NOT be re-sold.
Assuming it is original, a full site design/conversion for $600 with a turn around time of 2 weeks is more than fair and shame on the people who don't know better than to keep their mouth shut if they are so misguided and think otherwise.

It is rude to tell people that their time isn't worth what they are asking. If you don't like the design and don't feel it is worth it then have enough sense to skip over the thread.

People who post things for sale aren't looking for a review or asking what you think it is worth. If it doesn't sell, they'll most likely lower the price or try to sell it elsewhere.

Anyway... as I said, this thread is just a disaster...

Originally posted by Chicken
It is rude to tell people that their time isn't worth what they are asking. If you don't like the design and don't feel it is worth it then have enough sense to skip over the thread.
Exactly what I was thinking! RC's sample designs a few posts back are great and the one for sale is great too.

I would easily pay $600 for that design. I wouldn't pay it for their photoshop skills alone, but for the creativity in their heads. I can't say that for a lot of the templates I see advertised here.

The ability to use photoshop and the ability to be creative are two very different things. I can use photoshop pretty well, but I can't design my way out of a paper bag, no matter how hard I try.

Perhaps those orange arrows were used elsewhere, but so are those -> arrows with a circle around them (I think microsoft uses them?), the >>> arrows, and a hundred other types of arrows, bullets, and other similar icons you see everyone using. Big whoop, as long as it wasn't "copied" and actually created by hand, it works for me!

Good luck with it, Tom. :)

Originally posted by allera

Perhaps those orange arrows were used elsewhere, but so are those -> arrows with a circle around them (I think microsoft uses them?), the >>> arrows, and a hundred other types of arrows, bullets, and other similar icons you see everyone using. Big whoop, as long as it wasn't "copied" and actually created by hand, it works for me!

Good luck with it, Tom. :)

It seems strange that those bullets were used on that particular design, that looks quite similar to FWS. I'm pretty sure that home text at the top right is identical to the FWS one too. I know it's picky, i'm just pointing it out.

Thanks to the people that are seeing this the way we do. We appreicate your support.

We are just trying to do a job, not get abused.

For people to question our ability is insulting. If you have any questions or comments on our designs, then please feel free to e-mail us. We would be glad to sort out any problems you may have - We are not hear to gain enemies.

Once again, if you are interested in the design, then you can contact us on:

E-mail: design@webdefinity.com
ICQ: 54685616
AOL: AAAgainstAll

Thank you for your time.

I don't know about you but it takes me about 2 seconds to realize that a site was made by pixelbrick.
Their line of thought never changes:
Some nice nav bar, a bit like a 3d pipe.
An impressive flash movie in the title, and some square packages along with one stripe of content to the left and one stripe of content to the right.
Even their own site is almost like that.
I like the creativity of 2advanced much more, but that doesn't mean pixelbricks work is worthless.

You can look at the bright side of everything:
* Pixelbrick's work is of very high quality
* Pixelbrick is a very known name

Or you can look at their down side:
* I would preffer my own car at that price
* I don't think the design has so much influence that you have to pay $60,000 instead of $15,000 for a company that just starting out.

I wanted to say this for a long time, but I really hate a nice amount of the people who hang out on this forum.
People who offense for no reason.
People who use only one word to destroy a person's entire opportunity.
People who brag.
People who say: "I can do this for $50 at photoshop".
I think posts like this should be deleted, but I'm not a mod.
I'm just a regular person visiting this forum, trying himself to make a few bucks of a nice layout here and there.
A few days ago I posted a layout that I worked quite hard on, and someone comes and posts: "are ya sure you didn't use paint?".
Maybe my layout wasn't the best, or not to the level of "PixelBrick", but this kind of post can pull away any interest people have in my layout due to considerations like "If he thinks it's bad I wonder what my costumers will think" or the likes.
Posts like that have only one intention, that is to decrease the value of the selled or the seller.
It wasn't so fatal for me, and I wasn't so surprised considering the forum I used (WHT), but think about designers like RCI who try to make a living.
Do you go into a furniture shop and start yelling "yar furniture sucks"?
No, it's bad tact.
Maybe all these sorts of posts have to do that this is a nerd pressure cooker, soap opera of some sort.
But still... Think twice before you post. Your posts might have a much larger influence than you might think.

Well put. I don't think we should be having a discussion about this, though, in someone elses's thead, so please start another and do not continue on with this.

The problem with these forums is that there are a lot of inexperienced people who think they know more than they do. Not to be offending, but that's the way it is. You just have to ignore them and do business the way you always would.

The current design you are selling is sure not worth $600! The other designs you showed us have some that are worth over $600 but the one your selling really isnt. Maybe $300 would be better.

Just my 2 cents!

I don't understand why you people don't see it... who trusts to buy something for $600 from this guy when you can clearly see he blatantly copied FWS on one of his designs... he didn't even bother to change the home button at the top.

Plus, everyone here is too cheap to pay $600. I am doing full sites for only $150 and that is done in a week...

Originally posted by IceBlaZe

Or you can look at their down side:
* I would preffer my own car at that price
* I don't think the design has so much influence that you have to pay $60,000 instead of $15,000 for a company that just starting out.

That is all relative and depends on your market

20 or 30K for a design IS worth if you have a large client base or high paying clients .. I paid 40K for my car, could I have gone with a 15K KIA or Saturn ? .. yes, but I would not wish to pickup one of my clients in one.

if you are a host making 500 bucks a month in hosting, yes it is not worthed, if you make 1/4 of a Million a year .. then what is to stop you form investing 30 or 40k in a desing ? .. nothing.

it all depends in where you stand fellows :)