Does anyone have any suggestions for Search Engine Submission and what's the best way to go about it without being raked over the coals?

Hi,

you will find several opinions and different views (some of them conflicting each others). As per my personal experience (in brief) -

1. Money does matter
2. Your site text
3. Meta Tags and keywords (for some sites and specially if your sites don't have much text)
4. Your site popularity, how many websites have a link to your site. (Google)

Submit your site manually one by one to major search engines...
Google, Altavista, Lycos, MSN, Webcrawler, Excite ...

For other search engines and directories you may use any site submission software - Dynamic submission, topdog, addweb etc... Just got to download.com and make a search... you will find many of them (few freely available

- Make sure you remove the major search engines from the list before submitting your site using any software.
- Avoid multiple submissions and sub-pages submission (especially to major search engines).
- Make sure you don't have broken link or image on your site or under construction page
- Complete list of links on your main page or on a separate page, which is linked to main page will be helpful to search engine robots indexing your website.
- It (edited: from "is") may be worth to pay Yahoo $299 (if your web site is commercial) for the submission. Your raking in the Google will get a better ranking then those not listed in Yahoo.

Originally posted by m6.net
It is worth to pay Yahoo $299 (if your web site is commercial) for the submission. Your raking in the Google will get a better ranking then those not listed in Yahoo. Hmm... that's arguable. Certainly there are many well-ranked sites in Google that aren't in the Yahoo directory, and many that for a given competitive phrase outrank Yahoo-included sites. I haven't seen any evidence or heard any compelling argument that a Yahoo listing helps with Google any more than any other link from a site with a comparably high PageRank would. Granted, there aren't many sites with Yahoo's PageRank value, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily worth $299 per year solely for what it would do for you Google rankings.

Depending on what category your site would be listed in, though, it may or may not be worth $299 a year just to be in Yahoo. It may be questionable for web hosting-related categories.

Anyway, for the original question of submission without being "raked over the coals," you're exactly right: submit manually by yourself... though I'd probably quibble again with your list of where to submit. For one thing, you should definitely submit to the Open Directory as soon as your site is ready to go (that is, as you mentioned, not broken links or "under construction" pages).

For regular search engines, really, the benefit of free submission (assuming that's what the original question was about) these days is almost nil. Better to concentrate on building a good set of incoming links to your site... for the most part, then, spiders will find you. Submit if you want to, but without incoming links you're wasting your time.

thanks Jayc.

Sorry I was suppose to write may be worth instead of "is".

Although not directly answering the question, this is a link to a great forum on search engines - webmaster focused
http://searchengineforums.com/bin/Ultimate.cgi

its like this it depends on

1. Your site text
2. Meta Tags and keywords
3. Your site popularity, how many websites have a link to your site.
4. Meta title
5. Repeated words etc

actually if u divide the search engines then there are three types of search engines
1. Directories like yahoo
2. Keyword search engines like altavista
3. Link search engines

yes there are many third party tools for search engine ssubmission but those wont work with directories...directories are manual thing..once you submit the form then they will verify that and put that in proper category...where as keyword search engines it various...that depends on the various factors which I told u above...

if you take hotbot.com that will consider first <meta title""> tag altavista takes <meta keywords=""> tag....the best you can do is repeat the word which you want to highlight in first page...and put meta keywords and title tag.....then submit that
..for keywords submission you can use submit wolf third party tooll...it good....

Manually submit your site to the main engines, yehoo, google, etc

Then you may want to use search engine software for the minor ones.

You can obtain free submission software at:

http://gnet.dhs.org

Have a look at dreamsubmit.com

Never use any Auto Submit scripts or software, do every individual submit manually and one by one

Originally posted by raj4800
actually if u divide the search engines then there are three types of search engines
1. Directories like yahoo
2. Keyword search engines like altavista
3. Link search enginesI wouldn't say you could break the majors down into those two last groups. For example, take altavista: it's true that they index and rank based on META tags, but they also do give a higher ranking based on the number of listed sites that link to you. So are they clearly a "keyword search engine" and not a "link search engine?" Then, everyone knows that Google gives priority to incoming links, primarily because they've put such effort into publicizing their "PageRank" technique. But still, PageRank is only one factor in ranking pages; the presence and postioning of keywords is certainly essential to Google positioning. But calling them a "link search engine" (assuming that's where you'd place them) would imply, wrongly, that on-page content isn't important.

All of the major search engines today evaluate both linking and textual page content in their ranking algorithms.