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View Full Version : Massive domains
concept2006 03-02-2006, 08:17 AM ok what i am looking for is a registar that i can register many domains.
i just started my company and i feel that i am going to be doing approx 250 domains the first month, and then each month there after, i could see myself registering 10k domains a monthd.
i am not looking for some cheapo place, because i do know you get what you pay for. and i do need quality.
but for the simple fact my company is new, i cannot afford 89k a month in domains registration fees.
since i am wanting to register soo many domains at a time, i would like to think that i can receive some form of discount.
what would be nice, is i pay a flat rate for XXXX ammounts of domains a month, if i register them good for me, if i dont then good for the company that sold me the liscence, or the rights to do something like this.
Any good registars that someone could reccomend.
and my second question, what is all entialed with setting up a registar, also, is there any ideas on how to get this many domains to work for me possibly because of some hole in a current registars system etc.
personal message me here
or get me on my aim or just reply here
aim=realcashceo
icq=245833866
thanks for your time.
David
Stan Marsh 03-02-2006, 11:11 AM Get a reseller account either from eNom ($6.95) or DirectI/ResellerClub (as low as $6.49). Or write to Moniker sales, sure they will do a special deal for you, taken into account volumes involved.
Good luck!
Plonk down $6950 at Enom and become an Enom ETP which gives you $6.95 for 1000 domains. They come highly recommended by most domainers with large and small portfolios alike.
Techno 03-02-2006, 12:33 PM 10,000 domains/month IS massive. Domainsite does a net of 14,000/month, Register.com 11,000 and Netfirms 7,000.
what is all entialed with setting up a regista
The process; http://icann.org/registrars/accreditation-process.htm
# US$2,500 non-refundable application fee, to be submitted with application.
# US$4,000 yearly accreditation fee.
# US$70,000 in working capital requirement. THIS DOES NOT NEED TO BE PAID TO ICANN; ICANN requires only that you demonstrate (by submitting an independently verified financial statement) that you have at least this much liquid capital (cash or credit) before your ICANN accreditation becomes effective.
It could be easier and faster buying out an existing smaller registrar than the expense and time required to get one approved from scratch. There is a list of registrars and thier sizes at www.webhosting.info. Some small registrars are essentially inactive and have less than 500 domains total. The owners of dnforum got into the registrar business by buying domainjingles.com.
Continuum 03-02-2006, 12:40 PM 10,000 domains/month IS massive. Domainsite does a net of 14,000/month, Register.com 11,000 and Netfirms 7,000.
The process; http://icann.org/registrars/accreditation-process.htm
# US$2,500 non-refundable application fee, to be submitted with application.
# US$4,000 yearly accreditation fee.
# US$70,000 in working capital requirement. THIS DOES NOT NEED TO BE PAID TO ICANN; ICANN requires only that you demonstrate (by submitting an independently verified financial statement) that you have at least this much liquid capital (cash or credit) before your ICANN accreditation becomes effective.
It could be easier and faster buying out an existing smaller registrar than the expense and time required to get one approved from scratch. There is a list of registrars and thier sizes at www.webhosting.info. Some small registrars are essentially inactive and have less than 500 domains total. The owners of dnforum got into the registrar business by buying domainjingles.com.
It's not just ICANN. Each Registry has their own set of financial and application requirements as well.
-Tom
RossH 03-02-2006, 03:37 PM Instead of doing all the reseller stuff just contact ceo [at] moniker.com and get some special pricing. If you are truley registering that many they will give you a deal.
nameslave 03-02-2006, 03:42 PM and i feel that i am going to be doing approx 250 domains the first month, and then each month there after, i could see myself registering 10k domains a monthd.
Do you mean you are a) reselling domain registrations (i.e. registering domain names for YOUR clients), or b) transferring in existing names from other registrars or drop-catching services like Club Drop, or c) registering brand new and available domains?
Not to be rude, but if you are doing (a), I honestly don't see how and why you are so optimistic about your business; and even with a loss leader (of e.g. $6.00), I'm not 100% sure you can achieve that in 6 - 9 months' time.
If you are a veteran domainer, with a huge portfolio of close to 100,000 domains, and thinking of (b), you should be well aware of the market prices.
However, if you intend to go for (c), then we'll probably be seeing another big dump of expired domains in 12 - 18 months' time and yet another waste of capital.
Having said that, for really big players, your minimum cost is still US$6+ per name year, regardless of how many domains we are talking about: a hundred thousand, half a millions or 10 millions.
For starters (with some cash flow), I would recommend eNom's $6.95 ETP account for relatively easier start-up. You may then like others mentioned here already look to buy out an existing ICANN-accredited registrar. But then again, don't try to do it at home; even if you have a few millions to spare, you still need to hire some professionals to help you through down the road. Good luck.
4solutions 03-02-2006, 07:02 PM My old buddy, NameSlave, has some good advice there. The domain name registration business has become a commodity market and it IS difficult to make money just from the registration process.
It has become mostly a loss leader for hosting, web design and other more profitable services.
Of course, if you've come up with a new twist on how to make money, you probably couldn't come up with a better group of guys/gals to share it with. :D
carlitosway 03-02-2006, 08:50 PM He is saying he would start at 250 a month and "maybe" could see himself do 10,000 names each month. For 250 try ResellerClub
I'll give him an Enom $6.95 reseller account at those volumes :)
mrzippy 03-04-2006, 05:41 AM I think he's on crack. Perhaps he's just read the latest "how to get rich on the internet with NO MONEY DOWN!!!" ebook.
:)
But seriously, I also agree that an eNom account directly with eNom (ETP) is your best solution.
carlitosway 03-04-2006, 11:36 AM Seems like the OP never came back to hear the good responses
Stan Marsh 03-04-2006, 02:09 PM Seems like the OP never came back to hear the good responses
I think he's busy registering his 100.000th domain this month. :)
carlitosway 03-04-2006, 02:19 PM maybe so, it seems dumb to ask a question and not comment on the responses
I think MrZippy got it about right ;)
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