FYI: Beware of 2dollarweb . They were a Don Host reseller and resently got kicked off there network. I had to re-create all my files and my client files. They have been selling on Ebay offering unlimited disk space and data transfer. Luckely I was able to restore some of my data but the majority was lost.

Just a little FYI.

I'm not surprised they got kicked off, their web site is a complete rip off of Donhost's own web site and they've even forgotten to change 'DonHost' to '2DollarWeb' in some places.

DonHost may be pants but I can understand them getting annoyed about such a blatent rip off of their web site.

Yes, I think that is a little cheap for them to copy Don Host. When I signed up with 2dollarweb I never heard of Don Host. However, I now feel a lot better on this new server. The features are rock solid. I have a Plex control panel now wich has some really nice features. 2dollarweb has been in Ebay a lot and that is where I purchaced my reseller account. I am currently working with the credit card company to authorize a charge back. 2dollarweb will not volentary give me a refund.

I also purchased an account from 2dollarweb (eBay) some time ago. Did a background check and realized that they didn't have any authorization to sell for Donhost. I contacted Donhost and asked about the relationship between them and 2dollarweb. They replied "we can't say anything about our clients".

2dollarweb was probabely just a reseller for Donhost. They designed a type of contact form as they called "control panel". When the reseller (of 2dollarweb) opened an account in the "control panel", the info was mailed to 2dollarweb who activated the account from their own panel with Donhost. :)

I immediately requested a refund (after 1 day) and asked about the connection between them and Donhost. They didn't wanna say anything, but refunded my money. I later tried to warn both clients of 2dollarweb and Donhost, but no one listened. :confused:

:eek:

They are still going on...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2022902636

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2022903298

:eek: :eek: :eek:

So ebay is where all the action is for web hosts these days hey??? :eek: :D :rolleyes:

Does anybody know how to put a stop to them selling there false hosting on Ebay?

Report them to eBay giving all the details and a contact for eBay to DonHost

heh there still using the same design :eek:

Dear Sir,

You know the funny thing is, you putting that up is completely out of hand, I have 35 positive comments, and most of them are from my resellers and hosting packages. We are still going strong. And those customers apparently were just dissatisfied over 2 months ago... When DONHOST our provider then kicked us off because of a clients over abuse of uploading porn.. I think we need to get the story straight... Yes we may have been a reseller or we may not have been,,, That's nobodies business we were suppose to be anonymous... As for the web page being a copy.. WHO CARES.. we weren't trying to sell from our website and we still aren't trying to right this second, we put that up for the sole purpose of supplying information, unfortunately we have been too busy running the actual business side of things to update the site to our own design... You see we were a design firm before a hosting company, that's how we got our start in the hosting business, finding affordable ways to host our clients... Then we discovered ebay and realized it was the most efficient advertising.. Thus why we are somewhat new to ebay... But in 3 months time we have soared in business because we moved from Donhost them kicking us off their servers only forced us to move somewhere better with 10 times more features than they had... We now own 3 dedicated servers.. 2 of which are waiting to start new resellers on 1 of which is in the process of being moved to 1 one of the 2 that are waiting.. WOW you would have started on a fresh server... Let me just say this within 6 months you wont be able to find us on ebay, because we will be making 10 times more than what we do on ebay selling our services at the top of the search engines, plus by then we will be owning at least a full rack of dedicated servers at our current providers data center in Georgia.. Within a year we should be having our own data center in either Chicago, new York or Indianapolis, depending on where we move to... Within 3 years We will have data centers in all 3 cities and possibly one in Vancouver... Now id say that's pretty impressive for a RIP OFF company... Ebay is just our start to beginning the long term business plan. This same email to you will be placed in rebuttal on that forum you so quickly judged us from.. Nice how they have these secretive forums to slam a host that provided those same resellers with the best damm tech support for a measly 75 a year of payment for a unlimited reseller account. Or maybe they even got in on the 15.00 a month when everyone else was charging 34 dollars a month... hrmmmm... imagine tech support that answers you sometimes as quickly as 10 minutes and will keep replying to you as long as you reply... And we have almost never left an email unanswered more than 24 hours, the only time this happened was during 2 out of town business trips, one of them a side project that I the owner do with another set of partners. And the second occasion was to visit our data center and take a network security seminar the next 2 days in Pittsburgh. Now in light of this would you rather take the word of 2 former clients whom really had nothing to complain about. If they had complaints it should be with Donhost, NOT US. Since we forcefully moved from Donhost we've had better service, better support, and less restrictions... Except for a malicious cgi-script that was causing apache to fail by hogging CPU and memory... We've since fixed that problem even though we are starting on brand spanking new servers, and terminating the old one... Either way, I appreciate you pointing out this forum now at least we have a chance to defend ourselves... To bad this customer lacked the common sense to keep local backups of data, so his loss of information or data was truly his own fault. The only blame we can take on loss of data would be any databases that were lost due to the suspension from Donhost. Now Im also going to jump right in and stop this from being the next little complaint... BUT YOUR NOT AS BIG OF A COMPANY AS YOU CLAIM TO BE... well in regards to that... show me one company that ever started out saying hey were a nobody we have nothing we are nothing come buy our hosting.. would you do that as a reseller, wait why are you a reseller in the first place... You want to start somewhere don't you.. unless your already a millionaire your not going to start your own data center right off the bat.. And frankly if anyone that sells on ebay says they are.. RIGHT... Do you honestly believe a million dollar data center needs to advertise on ebay,, I don't think so.. not when they sell the same service for 10 times what someone sells it for on ebay using effective web advertising.. Plus you can bet they pull in 10 times more customers... Interesting if anybody believes otherwise... Frankly I should write a e-book too.. I've got a good start in this email. Well now comes the time when I leave you to make a choice.. take a chance on the ebay host that claim they are super big, or choose a provider that is honest and wont be going down the tubes in 6 months... I know that one of the Ebayer's selling hosting now has made at least 2 different provider changes.. Well now leave you to that choice.. Good luck in your search for a new reseller package and I offer you the best of luck in a steadily growing business as a web hosting provider.. But remember this its a dog eat dog world and judging from the comments on this site there's no shame in knocking and slandering a business if you just mess up once...

THE ABOVE IS A THE REPLY TO AN EBAY MEMBER AFTER THEY DECIDED TO POINT ALL POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS TO THIS THREAD. THAT IS OUR REBUTTAL TO ALL THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS..

Thanks for the laugh.
Can you say "paragraph"? Whats up with all the jumbled together words, and sentences? My favs were:
"That's nobodies business we were suppose to be anonymous... "
I am not anonnymous to anyone I do business with. They all have my business and cell phone number.
"As for the web page being a copy.. WHO CARES.. "
Can you say "copywrite infringement"?
"We now own 3 dedicated servers"
um, the ebay link lists:
Instant Account Activation
Client Control Panel (demo here)
[ USER = democp PASS = democp ]
Reseller Control Panel (demo here)
[ USER = demorp PASS = demorp ]
Host Unlimited Domains
Create Unlimited Hosting Accounts
Unlimited Sub Accounts
(e.g. - client.yourdomain.com)
Unlimited Disk Space
Unlimited Data Transfer
Unlimited POP3 Mailboxes
Unlimited Auto Responders
Unlimited Email Addresses
Unlimited Multi Recipient Addresses
I'd say that three servers is a limit.
Don't say you plan to get more, if your clients (use term loosely) use up what the three servers can handle, because unless you can host the whole internet, there clearly is a limit.

Again, thanks for the laugh, that was waaaay funnier than the commercials during the wings / hurricanes game!

* edited for spelling even though I doubt you would catch my errors.

"As for the web page being a copy.. WHO CARES.. "

People can get web pages made by 2 ways, Paying for the design, or creating it themself.
I make my own designs, if you stole my design I'd kick you in the gonads.
If someone stole your design, you'd feel the same way too.
You just proove to yourself your a bad business partner. Your not willing to have your own unique site done, so you take someone elses. Your just in it for the money, you don't give a crap about your business do you.
If you were to come back in here and argue that you do give a crap about your business, how does it show?
You lie, you steal, you do things the hard way.

this whole thread is funny from buying a $75.00 a year unlimited reseller account to the guy that is gonna have a data center in every city.

I gotta copy this and send it all my friends, in fact someone should make a web site and put it up, :HOWNOTTOBUYHOSTING.COM.


:D :D :D :D :D :D :eek:

Well i'll sign up with him...
simply i'll save all the client pages to my computer
if 2dollarweb decides to shut down my server i asked that he send me an e-mail i'll pay a little more for more bandwith and spacee just the fact because it's dirt cheap so i don't mind paying a bit extra... for a beginner in web hosting... he isn't too bad to be having a reseller plan through...so what if he shuts down your account if it doesn't say that in the terms and services (wich alot of people don't read 10 pages)u may or may not find it if u don't simply bring to court, switch servers.
another good reseller is
http://www.hostblock.net
they're better if ur business is expanding
if you really get huge and making money
simply rent a deticated server
be cool about it:cool:
just postin' what i think
-Rob:eek:

Now that my team won, and I got a few hours sleep, heres more funny quotes:
"I have 35 positive comments, and most of them are from my resellers "
hmmm, 35 customers made him too busy to design a unique looking site.
"unfortunately we have been too busy running the actual business side of things to update the site to our own design... You see we were a design firm before a hosting company, "
That entire sentence is an oxymoron. "We used to do design, now we are too busy hosting 35 clients to do design"
What, you didn't have some old unused design lying around to throw up there? Real designers have many designs they work on, then abandon because the client wants something else, why didn't you use one of those?
"we moved from Donhost them kicking us off their servers only forced us to move somewhere better with 10 times more features than they had...
If you have ten times more features (which I doubt) than Donhost, why do you copy their site with its listing of appearently 'reduced' features? Why not copy the pages from host you are reselling from now? http://www.terrastudios.net site looks pretty nice, but they don't have unlimited.


btw, some of the registrant info is faked, and it even lists a hotmail account. Nice job!
J C (a_2dollarweb@hotmail.com)
1234567890
FAX: none
111 Main St
Lafayette, IN 47909
US

and to RoBskEwL,
"so what if he shuts down your account . . ."
Real designers also do not like having to switch hosts, as it wastes all that time uploading and then checking links, and the sites will be down for at least three days for nameservers to propagate. Not very professional.

by your post I can see that you will last along time in this business.

Monte

Your just in it for the money, you don't give a crap about your business do you.
If you were to come back in here and argue that you do give a crap about your business, how does it show?
You lie, you steal, you do things the hard way.

Now ya know that has to be the funniest thing I have ever heard... So you do web hosting but you dont do it fo rthe money.. WHAT.. so you wanna give it away free... Okay well lets see whos still in buisness 3 years from now.. And i dont give a crap about my business.. I obviousl give enough of a crap to make money so i can improve it... I lie? About What.. I have povided service to everyone and havent lied yet.. , I steal? What have i stolen.. Oh i copied donhost site.. waaaaa.. half of you host out there steal material every single day from websites for your own.. dont tell me you dont.. cause then YOU ARE A LIAR... You do things the hard way!.. Well I sure hope so, nothing comes easy in this world.. Show me where it does and ill bow down,,,,,

Who cares about the site being a copy!!!!!!!!!
Could you have said anything worse, you are lucky you havent ended up in court. I cant see anybody in their right mind who has seen donhosts site and then seen yours, buying anything from you

Originally posted by twodollarweb
I steal? What have i stolen.. Oh i copied donhost site.. waaaaa..
It's stealing, no matter how you sugar coat it, which shows exactly where your ethics lie. Poor ethics = piss poor business tactics. Anyone that would do business with someone like that, I sure as hell wouldn't want them.
half of you host out there steal material every single day from websites for your own.. dont tell me you dont.. cause then YOU ARE A LIAR...
Where does this statistic come from? People in the hosting business that you know? Birds of a feather...

You know, I have no idea why i was reading this thread, I was just completely bored out of my mind but You guys missed the funniest part of this thread and I thought I'd fill you in..

2dollarweb quotes "We started out as a design firm and thats how we got into the hositng business"

Well that just got me rolling on the floor in my own puddle of pee I am laughing so hard, a design firm with a blatent copy of their upsells website and not their own design.

Wonder what their 2 clients got for designs, the 2 free themes included with Front Page 98 and a 2.95 clip art explosion cdrom?

hehee

what do you expect for 2 dollar? The name says it all

Originally posted by twodollarweb


service to everyone and havent lied yet.. , I steal? What have i stolen.. Oh i copied donhost site.. waaaaa.. half of you host out there steal material every single day from websites for your own.. dont tell me you dont.. cause then YOU ARE A LIAR... You do things the hard



You can't just shift the blame like that you know. What you have done is still wrong. If you were indeed a design outfit previously, then I would think that you might have had at least one design to use for the hosting. Actually I would think that you would have designed something specifically for your hosting site.

http://www.terrastudios.net site looks pretty nice, but they don't have unlimited.


why thank you very much ;)

twodollarweb --> can you send me over some of those drugs? I like the tune you play!! lol :rolleyes:

This by far is one of the best posts I have read so far. First off if you were a successful design firm wouldnt you have made more money with design then with webhosting? Webhosting unless done on a large scale is not highly profitable (assuming you do not over price your services). Also how as can you defend yourself so poorly against claims that are so true. I would also like to point out your nice new site... hehe. Whats wrong donhost threaten to sue you for "stealing" there design? Well im rather interested on who you will "steal" your design from now... I hear rackshack has a nice layout. Just remember to be sure to change all the logos on this one. You wouldnt want to be to obvious now would you? Oh and to think you could get away with bogus domain registration info. Well I'm glad I read this thread before stumbling upon your scam or whatever you would like to call/sugar coat it. I pitty anyone that does buisness with your pathetic company as they to will soon learn what a mistake they have made. Well I would not want to make you read anymore being that you must be busy stealing layouts and keeping your "35" customers happy.

What would homer say?

:homer:


oh man, if only the web hosting community could pull togather to run nbc anti-unlimited commercials.

kind of like this is your brian on drugs

this is your unlimited web hosting
this is your money going down the toliet
--- ooops some of your files clogged the toliet.

zach

OMG look!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2031644397
5 bucks a month for "10GB HD/BW" and thats not all folks, he'll even let you host adult sites.
And you can host anything you want including Video and Mp3's(must not have copyright protection), heck we don't even care if its adult material, just remember if you go over your transfer or disk space there is an additional cost involved
I wonder how long it will take before terrastudios kicks him off their servers?

Common, open your big mouth and stick your foot in it again. This is too funny.

btw, these links do not work:
http://2dollarweb.com/dedicated.htm ( heh heh)
http://2dollarweb.com/domains.htm (as if ha ha)
http://2dollarweb.com/consult.htm (bwa ha ha ha)
http://2dollarweb.com/support.htm (OMG ROFLMAO)
http://2dollarweb.com/contact.htm (ambulance comes to revive me)

Well, looks like he took at least SOME of the advice anyway. From his homepage:

"We are currently working on a new design for our website. Until then we will just have links to purchase our current ebay hosting packages. Hopefully we will have the update done in a day or two."

http://www.2dollarweb.com/

I've tried selling on eBay a while ago. The only way to really sell anything is to have 'unlimited' or plans that are just plain impossible to do.

jt

From the way he writes, he sounds as if hes yet another one of the under 18 unlimited hosting dream resellers promissing unsuspecting customers service he can't even provide, regardless of if you will own 3 datacenters 3 years from now, maybe by then you'll learn some business ethics...

You say your too busy to make your own design, and you copied someone else's, and say "SO WHAT".
The Law is What........

Sensless is it for me to even waste my time writing what I think about you and your situation, But perhaps you will realize there's no Reseller control panel for owning a datacenter.........

HAHA - WHAT CAN I SAY - THIS IS TOTALLY HILERIOUS AND UNBELEIVABLE!

Im just waiting for his own design so i can rip it and say 'SO WHAT' when he notices it


haha some people eh?!:eek: :angry:

Originally posted by twodollarweb
THE ABOVE IS A THE REPLY TO AN EBAY MEMBER AFTER THEY DECIDED TO POINT ALL POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS TO THIS THREAD. THAT IS OUR REBUTTAL TO ALL THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS..

:D I may hurt myself laughing.

The rebuttal is more damaging to 'twodollarweb' than anything that anyone else has said.

Wanna know the sad thing? If you calculate all the sales that he has done on eBay, he's making in excess of $1000/month.

Who would like to put money on him either getting too much business, taking the money and running, or some sort of scam? :angry: :angry:

jt

isuperweb.com is 2dollarweb.com's client???

I find what isuperweb.com provided as same as 2dollarweb.com provided in ebay, and client control panel.....

But more and more ebay members are interested purchaseing isuperweb.com's $9.95 3000M yearly plan: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2031770783 :confused: :confused: :confused:

Originally posted by twodollarweb
THE ABOVE IS A THE REPLY TO AN EBAY MEMBER AFTER THEY DECIDED TO POINT ALL POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS TO THIS THREAD. THAT IS OUR REBUTTAL TO ALL THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS..

I was the one who pointed all of your potential customers to this thread because of what i found here. I find it surprising that you take pride in ripping people off and con-ing them into your service. Man, am i glad i retracted the bid. By the way, I went with a really good host called Netacore. SO far they are the best i have ever been with. Service is excellent and they actually run heir own servers instead of re-re-re-reselling donhosts service.

Originally posted by JDTurbeville
Wanna know the sad thing? If you calculate all the sales that he has done on eBay, he's making in excess of $1000/month.

Who would like to put money on him either getting too much business, taking the money and running, or some sort of scam? :angry: :angry:

jt

Its a scam, It's not really $1000/month because when you figure that 90% of his customers are disputing the charge on their credit cards. Hes only making like $10/month.

Ergh, people should learn NEVER to buy hosting from Ebay. Who knows WHY hosting companies choose to sell on Ebay, of all places. Like they can't sell on their own? Maybe the hosting companies can't maintain a reputation of their own with their own website. You don't see any reputable companies on Ebay, do you? Hardly.

$10 a year for virtually unlimited space (30gb)? I don't think so!!!!!

Speaking of potentially shady practices for 2dollarweb, look at this link below. What he does is offer a dutch auction on ebay of his web hosting. Then works with bidders prior to end of auction to get payment and set up accounts. Then towards the end of the auction, to save on ebay fees, he actually cancels all the bids for the auction (including the bids of people who paid before the auction ended) so that he doesn't have to pay ebay fees on the measly $5!!! This also keeps the bidders from being able to leave positive or negative feedback for him!

See this link to prove it:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=2031644397

You'll see he used the excuse "oversold on accounts - will have new auction soon." A friend of mine actually bought from him before the end of the auction and can attest to his improperly cancelling all the bids to cheat ebay.

Very poor in my opinion and if he's that cheap...be very careful.

The website is STILL not responding (ie NO DOMAIN)!

2dollarweb,

And when you go out of business maybe a good new name for you would be 2dollarscam? Name seams to fit? What do you think? Oh, I heard you went belly up again. Another one of your clients emailed me today that you got suspended the other day. Boy, looks like history repeats again. And one more thing: I am getting the best service ever from my current provider who I will probably stay until I need a dedicated server. And you know he will probably get that business also. You have bad business practices when you don't even list your real address or phone number. You want to be #1 right so one day you will have to post your phone number because NO MERCHANT will EVER give you a merchant account.

Heh Heh, HA Ha Ha :D :D
Originally posted by RoBskEwL
Well i'll sign up with him...
simply i'll save all the client pages to my computer
if 2dollarweb decides to shut down my server i asked that he send me an e-mail i'll pay a little more for more bandwith and spacee just the fact because it's dirt cheap so i don't mind paying a bit extra... for a beginner in web hosting... he isn't too bad to be having a reseller plan through...so what if he shuts down your account if it doesn't say that in the terms and services (wich alot of people don't read 10 pages)u may or may not find it if u don't simply bring to court, switch servers.
another good reseller is
http://www.**************
they're better if ur business is expanding
if you really get huge and making money
simply rent a deticated server
be cool about it:cool:
just postin' what i think
-Rob
sorry, couldn't resist

Originally posted by divinetruth
"As for the web page being a copy.. WHO CARES.. "

People can get web pages made by 2 ways, Paying for the design, or creating it themself.
I make my own designs, if you stole my design I'd kick you in the gonads...You lie, you steal, you do things the hard way.


LOL! Rock on!

This guy running "2dollarweb" actually started out as reseller for my company lowest cost host.com when I was with donhost. I guess that's how he found out about donhost and started buying directly from them. I see he got kicked off of donhost as did I...... The real question is why does donhost offer something they cannot provide? **** YOU DONHOST!

Hey, I got a refund the other day! Thanks 2dollarweb for giving me part of my money back.

This guy running "2dollarweb" actually started out as reseller for my company lowest cost host.com when I was with donhost. I guess that's how he found out about donhost and started buying directly from them. I see he got kicked off of donhost as did I...... The real question is why does donhost offer something they cannot provide? **** YOU DONHOST!



What has this got to do with donhosts business practice, they have taken enough of a flaming on there and this one isn't their fault.

The guy said they got kicked cos his clients uploaded porn. If i was Donhost i would do the same........the point is that this 2dollarweb guy is a liar and i cant see anbyone who has read this thread ever buying from them.

I know its boring talking to a new fella, but hay, you could have been hosted by Cyberwings?

Try getting to their customer service pps?

Sort of bad when they say---------------"you are now not a
clone of our society and you must leave...."

:stickout

Wow, that two dollar stuff was a whole load of rubbish. If I read that as a potential customer, I would steer well clear of them.

Do schools still teach english? :eek:

I really feel sorry for people on ebay that fall for these scams. If they only knew to come here first.... but then sometimes that doesn't even help people. :rolleyes:

Looks like 2dollarweb is no more unless they took off with a new name. And I was looking forward to seeing there new datacenters. lol

*clicks on the 4th page of this thread*

*scrolls down real fast*

*thinks real hard*


Boogers.

Was with them last year, downtime log:
1) Sep 2002 - 6 hours
2) Nov 2002 - 10 hours
3) Dec 2002 - 6 hours

3 months 22 hours = Not reliable.

Originally posted by rsaylor
Looks like 2dollarweb is no more unless they took off with a new name. And I was looking forward to seeing there new datacenters. lol And I was looking forward to 'not' reading a year old thread.