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Hi,
This is the best place I could find to post this, if I am not posting it in the right place...please let me know.
Say if I have the domain blahblahblah.com, how is it possible to show the mail coming from blahblahblah.com in the email headers (not just the from field)? Is there a host that offers this, or is there a simple/cheap way to do it?
I don't know everything there is to know about hosting, servers, etc....so it would have to be something rather easy.
Thanks.
Servstra-Sales 05-07-2002, 06:46 AM You would have to have your own SMTP server (ie. mail.yourdomain.com) with your hosting account. Many hosts provide these, so if you did a simple search you should find a few in no time.
GordonH 05-07-2002, 07:02 AM Actually Gregg that wouldn't work.
What he seems to be asking for is the headers to show the server as smtp.hisdomain.com
If we set up SMTP on a virtual hosting account it would show as host.ourdomain.com
You would need to set up seperate vrtual server ?? with rdns probably required ??
Possibly a seperate instance of exim running ??
I am sure someone with more technical knowledge will clarify
but certainly SMTP on a shared server always shows as coming from the server name not the hosted domain.
Gordon
Servstra-Sales 05-07-2002, 07:17 AM Yes, you are quite correct Gordon. SMTP on a shared server would still reveal the true server's name in the email headers. My apologies.
Never 05-07-2002, 08:51 AM Maybe try purchasing a virtual private server or running it in a jail environment under freebsd. Virtual servers are starting to come down in price.
Just my two cents.
NexDog 05-07-2002, 08:32 PM This is the reason our servers have generic/anonymous names. We have found that to be the only real solution especially where resellers are concerned.
Originally posted by NexDog
This is the reason our servers have generic/anonymous names. We have found that to be the only real solution especially where resellers are concerned. That's an improvement, but no server names are truly anonymous. Anyone can check whois information and find out, for example, that the listed company is not in the same city as what they'd expect, even if you don't list your company as the owner of the domain.
One solution for someone who is really bothered by this might be to run smtp on your own pc, or on a server on your own office network -- so avoiding using either your isp's or your webhost's smtp server. ISPs that block port 25 might be an obstacle to this, but if you're able to use your host's smtp server you should also be able to use your own.
inquisitive 05-08-2002, 02:08 AM There are many good free SMTP server available which you could install at your PC . These smtp servers work even with the dynamic IP addresses and doesn' t requires you to be very technical. This would help you to hide the hosting server in the header of your outgoing mail. You could browse theu the following link
http://www.webattack.com/Freeware/server/fwmailserver.shtml
GordonH 05-08-2002, 03:48 AM Originally posted by inquisitive
There are many good free SMTP server available which you could install at your PC .
Won't work unless you have a static IP as dynamic IP's are blocked by AOL and other ISP's
Gordon
akashik 05-08-2002, 10:45 AM **off topic**
Greg Moore - sales@hostworkz.com
http://www.HostWorkz.com
That's just spooky seeing someone with the exact same name as I have.. well that and the racing driver who died a few years back..
Greg Moore
Originally posted by GordonH
Won't work unless you have a static IP as dynamic IP's are blocked by AOL and other ISP'sAre they? How? How would they determine whether a particular IP has been assigned permanently to one user or is assigned dynamically?
I know that one approach they do take, as I mentioned earlier, is block access from their network to any port 25 that is not on their network. That's why while connected to AOL and many other large ISPs you can't use your web host's smtp server; you have to use your ISP's. But if you can use your host's, you should be able to use your own.
GordonH 05-08-2002, 11:31 AM Hello
I believe they just ask the ISP's for the ranges of IP's that are assigned dynamically.
The main list of this type is here:
http://mail-abuse.org/dul/usage.htm
This is why most spam is now sent out using scripts on web hosting accounts..........
Gordon
Originally posted by GordonH
Hello
I believe they just ask the ISP's for the ranges of IP's that are assigned dynamically.
The main list of this type is here:
http://mail-abuse.org/dul/usage.htm
This is why most spam is now sent out using scripts on web hosting accounts..........
Gordon
does anyone know how to pin point send mail use to a specific account? Got a problem with spammer on one of our virtual hosting plans using sendmail, using fake e-mail address, but complainments coming to me because its via our server.
Any ideas?
Devorius 05-09-2002, 09:28 AM Originally posted by GordonH
Won't work unless you have a static IP as dynamic IP's are blocked by AOL and other ISP's
Gordon
Um.. I'm sorry, but you're wrong. I use AOL and I've run my own SMTP server, as well as used others ont he 'Net. I have had no problems whatsoever with it, and all this about them blocking dynamic IPs is bull.
Not calling you a liar at all; you're just misinformed. Everyone falls for a false rumor once in a while.
richy 05-09-2002, 09:54 AM just a note to agree, i used to use argosofts smtp mail server on aol. worked fine.
GordonH 05-09-2002, 09:55 AM Sorry
I am obviousluy completely wrong....................
richy 05-09-2002, 10:14 AM im sure your half right at least :) i think they do block certain ports or similar.
Devorius 05-09-2002, 07:40 PM If they're blocking ports, I dunno what they are; I've run an Apache web server as well. All the ports that grc.com scans are open as well.
AOL's crappy; just not as crappy as people think. The main problem is being forced to use their proprietary software, which happens to take up a large chunk of system resources.
Anywho, back on topic - if you end up running one on your own comp, I recommend ArgoSoft (as Richy said he used); it's fast, free, and has a built-in POP3 server as well.
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