I just wanna get an idea, because I used 1 gig today! I have a website with a phpBB forum, and I have some videos on the website, but I have them hosted on a friend's site for now, so it is not using any BW on my account. I have about 1600 members on my forum, and the who's online feature shows about 20-25 members on constantly during peak hours. Doesnt 1 gig a day seem a little high? What are some of you guys using? I wanna compare, thanks.

well, when my forums were up ( www.forums232.com ), the average they were ever using was around 400 Mb a day. (I think the peek was 700 something or other).

right now tho, my forums are down for script upgrades....and I have been changing a lot of my site's staff around, and had been planning on merging the forums lol

Shibby, have you optimized all of the graphics on the pages? It sounds a bit on the high side to me, but that's relative. Try to reduce everything down as much as possible.

What exactly do ya mean by optimizing them? (sorry, I'm not to great with computers). I don't really have too many graphics, just the header logo and some buttons. I don't even allow avatars on my forums. :( I just don't see how in the world I can be using a gig a day.

Shibby, try running the images of your forum through the optimizers at http://www.spinwave.com .

Heya,

I run a forum as well but I use YaBB SE (www.yabb.info)... my forum is at community.eldaronline.com

My sites uses a bit more than 1 gig a month... my forum has on average 20 or so people on it with peak floating around 40-50... (there are stats on the boardindex)...

I have about 3000 users and about 600+ posts daily... i also use a pretty big flash banner on my site...

I hope this helps.

wow, thats pretty low for those stats

developer forums (http://www.developer-forums.com) pulls 94 megs a month

graphic-forums (http://www.graphic-forums.com) pulls from 5 to 12 gigs depending on activity.

See, I don't understand it. How can I be using 30 gigs a month? :(

Do you have mod_gzip installed or gzip compression turned on within phpBB? That can compress all the HTML related stuff and cut down a lot on the daily transfer.

To give you an idea, the phpbb.com site uses 4.5 - 6 gig per day. That last time I check, that was about 1 million pageviews per day.

Frank

I was a little confused by the thread's title, since the language the forum is coded in, has no bearing on bandwidth. However, I would too, suggest that you use mod_gzip to compress any HTML, text, etc., and also make sure you try and have a better compression on the images/movies, etc., to the best point without degrading the quality, of course.

my guess is he men phpBB forums and not just php forums.

Frank

What exactly is mod_gzip? Where can I get it, and how do I use it? Also, exaclty how much would it reduce things...would I even notice a difference? Like I said, I dont even have any movies hsoted at all, just the website and the forums. It jsut seems like whatever hosting plan I use, I always use the limit. My previous host I was allowed 10 gigs a month, and would use about 11-12. Now, only a month later, I switched hosts and now I am allowed 30 gigs per month, and I'm gonna use 30 gigs? What is up with that? I know I didnt triple in size in a month...and actually, I've noticed less posts and less visitors online this month than the previous one. :(


EDIT: Just an example, my stats today say I used 98mbs of BW in Gifs, 85 in jpg's, and 14 in html pages. So that means I am using 800mbs on php pages? :eek:

Mod_gzip can be obtained here:

http://www.remotecommunications.com/apache/mod_gzip/


It also has information about it and what it does.

A quick mention about what it is from me; You load or compile the mod_gzip module into (for example) the Apache web server. Once you load and enable it, you can configure it to compress non-binary files. It won't be of any benefit to compress binary files, but files that are php/i.e., text/html will greatly benefit from it.

Basically, it's compressing the file on the server side, before it sends it if someone has a compatiable browser. If they don't, it sends the file as the regular compression. However, if they do, it will compress it up to 80 or 90%. So, a file that's a 100KB HTML page, will transfer at say ~5KB. You can see how that saves a lot of bandwidth. Once the person on the other end gets it, it will uncompress via their browser.

This is all seemless to them, and in fact, it's better for A: The user's download speed (i.e., FOR EXAMPLE, where a user would be on a 28.8 modem, it would take 45 seconds to download a 150 KB page, it will now take them 1 to 2 seconds, since the data they are downloading is only ~10KB in reality.). B: It saves you bandwidth for any compressable files. C: It saves time/load on the server's drive, because while it won't have such a long "read" time when it's transfering the file. There's only benefits to using mod_gzip. It's a very cool thing, and I'd highly suggest it. There are no draw backs, assuming you do the configuration correctly, which is very simple.

I hope that helped explain what it is and what it does, as well as how it'll help you with your situation -- at least in regards to any HTML or text files (that includes files that output HTML or text (i.e., including CGI, PHP, etc. files)).

Wow, thank you very much for the explanation. I can't believe it compresses it that much. If it's that good, wouldn't most hosting companies suggest it, or make it standard? I have never even heard of it before (although I AM very stupid).

So is it possible that this could cut my bandwidth usage in half, or even more? And there are NO downsides to it?

Hi,

I don't want to give the wrong impression. The compression ratio can be _up to_ 80 or 90%, but not all files have that ratio. However, you will probably see that with some. With most other's, on average, I usually see about at least a 26 to 45% compression ratio, if not more.

As for people making it standard, I believe everyone _should_. It saves not only the web host bandwidth, not only their client hosting their site on the server, but also the client downloading it -- it saves their ISP bandwidth -- and that's a big deal for some people in countries that have bandwidth limits on their accounts. Not only that, but it's less traffic on the Internet in general.

I've seen some people report problems, but they were all due to misconfigurations. I don't know of anyone that's had a problem with mod_gzip at all, once they configured it correctly anyway. And, I don't mean to make you believe it's anything difficult to do -- because it's easy to properly configure. There might have been some bugs in some previous versions a year or two ago (maybe not as soon as a year ago, but longer, probably more like 2 years now), but there have been none that I'm aware of for quite a while. I say go for it, you really can't loose.

The only problem that I've seen people run into is trying to compress javascript and style sheets. Some browsers freak on that.

There is a small overhead on the server side to compress the stuff, but it's usually worth it to get the compression.

Unless you have a dedicated box, you can't do anything about mod_gzip. Your host either has it installed or they don't. Just ask and they should tell you.

In phpBB, just go into the admin and you can enable gzip compression. This is doing the same thing at a php level.

Also remember, that the compression ratios quoted are only for the HTML parts of a page. If your site has a lot of graphics, those won't compress (they already are) so that will still account for a lot of transfer.

Frank

Oh, so what you're saying is that it is useless to me unless I am on a dedicated server? I have a plan with gearhost, for $25/month (30 gig). And where in php 'Admin' is it located? Thanks for al the help so far guys.

I meant to say "CPU resources" earlier, not drive, even though that too is a true. Anyway, it should save more overhead, than it would cause.

As far as .htaccess .css, and other such things, as .js files, you shouldn't need to compress those anyway, and I'm not sure you should -- which is a good reason for the problems. I compress all HTML (html, shtml, etc.), CGI (any), PHP (any), and text (.txt, and any text) file content only.

AS for forum's bandwidth usage, I did a quick scan of my clients.
I notice the phpbb is the biggest consumer per page load when it's uncompresses. but the reduction is close to 68% when compressed.

Vbulletin seems to be the least intensive on the CPU ( win system ).

as for the best compressed I don't know.

for phpbb, on the left hand side of the admin panel ( or maintanance panel ) is the box you can check to activate mod-gzip

Mike

for phpbb, on the left hand side of the admin panel ( or maintanance panel ) is the box you can check to activate mod-gzip

Do you mean in "phpmyadmin"? Or in my hosting account control panel? Like I said, I'm REALLY stupid. I had to have someone install my board for me. :D

Chicken, how much does WHT use?

Originally posted by shibby


Do you mean in "phpmyadmin"? Or in my hosting account control panel? Like I said, I'm REALLY stupid. I had to have someone install my board for me. :D

real easy,
log in as the admin to phpbb
then you look on the left hand side and your will see it or in worst case you may have to click a few times to find it.

mike

But where? In phpmyadmin? I tried looking for it and didnt see it in there. :(

Originally posted by shibby
Oh, so what you're saying is that it is useless to me unless I am on a dedicated server?

No, what I was saying is that you have to be the server admin in order to install mod_gzip.

You will beneft from mod_gzip if you are on a shared server.

To turn on the compression in phpBB, do the following:

Log in as your phpBB admin account.
Go to the bottom of the index page and click Go to Administration Panel
In the Admin. Panel, choose General Admin, Configuration
Scroll down in the right hand frame and turn Enable GZip Compression on.


Frank

thanks Frank for help, I was unable to recall exactly where the botton to click was.

mike

Sorry for so many questions, but like I said, I'm very computer-illiterate. :( Do you mean the admin control panel on the forum index page? If so, it is not in there at all. By the way, I use phpBBMod 1.3.3. Thanks for the help so far. :)

Ah, that explains a lot. I think we all assumed that you were using phpBB 2.0 (the current release).

Frank

So does that mean I can't use it? :(

anyone? :(

Sorry, I'm not that familar with phpBBMod.

Did you check with your host and see if they have mod_gzip enabled?

Frank

No, didn't check with them yet. Is that all I ask them? And if they don't have it enabled, is there anyhting I can do to have it enabled?

Ask them if it's enabled. And, if it's not, if they'd consider enabling it. Point them to this thread, and the mod_gzip site for information about why it's a good thing.

Ok, thanks Tim! By the way, the host is Gearhost. Anyone know offhand if they have it? :)

Hi Shibby,

That module is common to Linux servers, the whole concept has been a bit over complicated.

Your host "Having It", is almost a certainty but keep in mind that this module is loaded "Per Server".

In other words, their server environment will more than likely have it.

Bandwidth stats could be off so ask through a helpdesk ticket if they could run /cd scripts/fixquotas on your account because I find it hard to believe you are using 3 gigs a day. In fact I would venture into saying that is entirely not the case (Its way out there in other words).

Gearhost, and any other host will load that module per server so it really cannot be answered with a question of "Does anyone know if gearhost has it", its almost a given that they do load it on their servers.

Hmm, how are your bandwidth stats showing today? have you indeed used 9 gigs in the last 3 days?

I am using 1 gig a day, not 3. But like I said, I moved from my old host a little over a month ago because I was only allowed 10 gigs a month, and I was using about 12. So I moved to GH because they allowed 30 gigs a month, and now it says im using a gig a day. I just dont understand how, and my site did not have a sudden burst of growth that quickly. Not to mention, on my old host they said I was using 12 which I thought sounded high, because in webalizer stats it said I was using about 7-8. :( I just dont know what to believe anymore, but I sure don't see how my board is using a gig a day.

Well maybe I missed it here somewhere, but could you post a link to your board?

Frank

I dont either, there would have to be something seriously wrong with the script to be using that much.

Graphic forums used up to 9 to 13 gigs two months in a row before I turned gzip on in their control panel, and they reduced the attachments.

But yours? hmm, I would have to see it.

Originally posted by shibby
I am using 1 gig a day, not 3. But like I said, I moved from my old host a little over a month ago because I was only allowed 10 gigs a month, and I was using about 12. So I moved to GH because they allowed 30 gigs a month, and now it says im using a gig a day. I just dont understand how, and my site did not have a sudden burst of growth that quickly. Not to mention, on my old host they said I was using 12 which I thought sounded high, because in webalizer stats it said I was using about 7-8. :( I just dont know what to believe anymore, but I sure don't see how my board is using a gig a day.

just a note, webalizer does not report every bit of data moved, to's solid for your http stuff but it does not cover everything.

ALso you have to think about the e-mail on your forum, depending on the activity of the users it can account for anywhere from 6% ( low posting forum ) to 15% high posting.

please note that WHT e-mail thread notice / alert is about 1.5K big. I can only guess on how many e-mails these guys send every hour.

where ever you can trim the fat ( re-optimize a few images, tighten code ...) you'll generate a savings. I just did my site last week ( bloated non-optimized images ), gosh I think I trimmed at least 50% (100k), and I think I have a ton more to go.

Mike

I don't think the emailing could be much, especially since it only emails topic starters (if they clicked the option). My forums (http://www.bluetraxx.com/phpBB/index.php)

Just a note...according to the stats, gifs, jpg's, and html is accoutning for 200mbs a day. The other 800 is php.

Do you host graphics for people? Like their signature images, or other images?

Also check your Hotlinking.

There is a thread around here talking about it and how to stop people from pulling your data.

I just can't see how that site is pulling a gig a day... just can't see it.

Heh, I can't see it either Samuel! :) I don't host ANY images for people at all...I don't even use avatars on my board! HEck, I don't even have like stars or any kind of ranking images under the usernames!

This may be a little extreme, but how honest are hosts with the stats? I mean, basically can't they make the stats anyhting they want to so you are forced to a bigger plan? I know, this may be stupid, but I've been with 3 different hosts in about 5 months, and it seems that whatever my plan is, I will use exactly what is allowed in BW, or just over it. :(

Samuel, I just shot over to your site developer-forum,

it's v-bullitin. and I think they have some options,

do the following:

see if there is something set up that requires that the page be reloaded entirely and not from the cache ( some sort of cache option might be set in the off state )

I went to a few of your pages and noiced that non of them were over 59K ( the header accounts for a good percentage of the page load ( about 11K's worth )

also do this,

look at your webalizer stats and see which gifs are loaded most commonly, try to track it to the web design in question, it might be that something odd is just happening. afterwards see if you can compress the image a few bytes ( your footer is about 5K and that should be able to be brought down to 3 k I think )

now look again at webalizer. go to the Daily Statistics for the month, you should see that it should be declining in the k-bytes area with the pages being steady or rising. this means that your visitors are caching the site so the server does not have to reload the images.

Mike

shibby, I would do some testing without using the images you have at the top of everypage. The "gooffroad.gif" alone is 30KB and if the others are the same, and your new Hoster is counting in & out Data Transfer, that could answer some Bandwidth questions right there. You should probably have a chat with your Hoster to see how they measure Data Transfer.

Originally posted by ADEhost
Samuel, I just shot over to your site developer-forum,

it's v-bullitin. and I think they have some options,

do the following:

see if there is something set up that requires that the page be reloaded entirely and not from the cache ( some sort of cache option might be set in the off state )

I went to a few of your pages and noiced that non of them were over 59K ( the header accounts for a good percentage of the page load ( about 11K's worth )

also do this,

look at your webalizer stats and see which gifs are loaded most commonly, try to track it to the web design in question, it might be that something odd is just happening. afterwards see if you can compress the image a few bytes ( your footer is about 5K and that should be able to be brought down to 3 k I think )

now look again at webalizer. go to the Daily Statistics for the month, you should see that it should be declining in the k-bytes area with the pages being steady or rising. this means that your visitors are caching the site so the server does not have to reload the images.

Mike

Hi Mike,

Thanks for taking a look at DF, but the forum only takes 85 megs a month, I have been trying to help shibby also narrow down why "Her" forum is using so much.

There was a misunderstanding, and probaly due to the time of year (a lot coming at me)

BUT!, the reply you gave me "Will help others, as well as shibby"

Thanks man.

Hey! I'm not a 'her'! :D
Yea, I know the advertisement banners I have are big (the one you mentioned WAS 52k!, but I compressed it a couple days ago, and it has only been on the site since last friday). The other 2 banners that run in rotation with it are about 25-30k. The stats said the gifs, jpg's, and html accounts for 200mb per day, with gif's using the most of that. I still don't see how the php pages are using 800mb per day though.

this is going to be real stupid of an idea but let me say it.

Update your forums to the most stable current release.

then change every single password that is with your domain ( database, control panel....)

this is off the change that you might have someone parking a few files that should not be there ( buried wares site ). had this happen to be a bout 2 years ago, somehow someone got the control panel userid and PW, they buried a file within the directory structure of a forum, for atleast 3 months I did not notice a thing. then one day I had to upgrade the forum Bang I found this odd looking file. after looking at the web logs for the month, there it was being requested from a wares site. LOL on me.

Mike

Originally posted by Samuel
Hi Shibby,

That module is common to Linux servers, the whole concept has been a bit over complicated.

Your host "Having It", is almost a certainty but keep in mind that this module is loaded "Per Server".

In other words, their server environment will more than likely have it.

Bandwidth stats could be off so ask through a helpdesk ticket if they could run /cd scripts/fixquotas on your account because I find it hard to believe you are using 3 gigs a day. In fact I would venture into saying that is entirely not the case (Its way out there in other words).

Gearhost, and any other host will load that module per server so it really cannot be answered with a question of "Does anyone know if gearhost has it", its almost a given that they do load it on their servers.

Hmm, how are your bandwidth stats showing today? have you indeed used 9 gigs in the last 3 days?

Most hosts I have seen, do not use mod_gzip. In fact, most servers don't. A lot do, but just the majority do not. I think you're confusing bandwidth with disk space. As for the disk quota, that has no bearing on bandwidth whatsoever.

All servers I have been on do, so it was only based on my experience, which I agree doesn't cover the whole server market so point understood.

gzip was also causing cpanel files to be created to an extent as to crash some servers, so I can see the reason for not using it for just that reason in a shared environment.

About the fixquotas: So you just realized I am more a designer than a server administrator :D

Thanks for the clarification Tim, I stand corrected.

LMFAO!!!!!! You guys gotta see this now...

Summary Report - Bandwidth

The total amount of bandwidth transferred during the selected Wednesday is 1.78 GB.
The average amount of bandwidth transferred during a Wednesday is 1.78 GB.

The smallest amount of bandwidth transferred occurred at 3:00 with 4.06 MB transferred.
The largest amount of bandwidth transferred occurred at 18:00 with 176.59 MB transferred.

On average the smallest amount of bandwidth transferred occurs at 3:00 with 3.75 MB transferred.
On average the largest amount of bandwidth transferred occurs at 20:00 with 79.80 MB transferred

WTF is going on here? :(:(:(

Have you upgraded that forum yet?

What is your host saying about this? That you are actually using this amount?

I havent contacted them yet about this, thought I would see what you guys think first. But I will be contacting them very soon. One month 12 gigs, the next 55-60?!? I don't see how. :(

shibby, if you like I will host you for free for a few days, just to test this baby out, I would love to narrow this problem down and test out the performace aspects of the forum you are running.

I have to say that somewhere you are being feed bad information, I checked my log files for a vbulletin forum that eats 3 gigs perday and they have about 140K in page loads so I think you realy do have a problem.

Mike

Wow, thanks, thats really nice of you ADEhost. But that is a big chorse, isnt it? I mean, I am not even good with that (I had to have someone install my board for me) and the person that helped me move it to the new hsot had a VERY hard time, because it had about 15 mb's of posts, and it was really hard to move it. :(

I stand by my word, honor is the least of my worries, more like what is the forum you are running and is there an faq ?

mike

the person can't use mod_gzip as they said they use gearhost (php cgi mod slower/mwindows 2000/iis 5.0)

Originally posted by roly
the person can't use mod_gzip as they said they use gearhost (php cgi mod slower/mwindows 2000/iis 5.0)

Well maybe not mod_gzip directly, but in win2k IIS5.0 we have the http compress option.

But beware, you can have a heck of a time making it work because http compress causes problems with cold fusion sites.

last week I turned it on ( on the wrong server ) BANG all sites with error 500. that was a fun thing

Mike

Well right now my forum is down, and has been since Friday. I was having some minor problems with my phpbb board, so the host was helping me but wanted to upgrade to the newest version of phpBB and I guess they are having problems with something. Anyway... is it me or does 1.7 gigs a day seem WAY too much. I mean, yea, my board is kinda big (1700 members) but I still don't see how it can use that much. And if it did, what in the world would I do? I can't afford a dedicated server. I onyl get about $10 per month each from ym 3 advertisers, so there is no way I could afford it. :(

That certainly seems like a LOT, far too much, for a forum with only 1,700 members, and expecially, even without mod_gzip, that it's text and text/html will only be so large. I mean, unless your threads are 5+ megs each? :-) I'd say there's something wrong with this picture, very much so. Don't you have any stats, or can't you run any, and see where this traffic is generating from? As another user stated in this thread, there could be files on your site that you aren't aware of, or something is broken somewhere that is giving the wrong statistics.

Well the host just recently added stats in the past week or so, and thats what they are giving as the BW report. I don't see how its possible either. I will tell the host soon of the problem, and see what they say...I just wanna get this other problem resolved first now. Thats also what I was wondering...is there any way you can get stats from an outside source? Just to compare with the stats given by the webhost?

You're really only going to be able to get useful stats from a local logging tool, or pulled from a local system log, that is. You can't have some remote logging system log how much bandwidth you're sending and receiving, unless you interface with or pull the logs or relevant data from the system in question.

Question... (by now I'm sure you've realized I don't know a whole lot about computers and such) When I open my cute FTP, I have folders called 'logs' in my account. I get a new log for each enw day in there, and the host jsut said to delete them because they show up on my account and take away my disk space. Are those logs representing the bandwidth at all? Because each one from each day is about 50 MBs. Could it be that I'm only using 50MBs per day? Don't know if this means anything, just thought I would throw it out there. :confused:

If your logs alone are 50 Megs a day or more, you might be moving a lot of data. The log file is just logging accesses. One line per hit. Your log files are not your bandwidth. That log file houses data showing what files were loaded and how many bytes were sent. Those bytes/numbers added up, are how much bandwidth you're using. The size of the log file does not alone indicate you are moving a lot of bandwidth, but it's saying you are getting a lot of hits.

Hmmm..well that sucks don't it? :( I dunno, 30 users at the most online at one time, and about 15-20 all day just does'nt seem like it would use 1.7 gigs a day, especially when the month before at the old host it was around 12.

My site has a VB forum but my site is content-based, not forum oriented site.

My host had had mod_gzip enabled but was not configured to compress normal pages (php, jpg, gif, cgi, html and so on)

Before having to have my host to configure the mod_gzip, my site was using approximately 60GB per month and I was about to be forced to use a dedicated server.

After having the mod_gzip to compress other files, the bandwidth usage has dropped to 40GB per month. And I am currently not in need to go for dedicated server.. yet.

Originally posted by shibby
Question... (by now I'm sure you've realized I don't know a whole lot about computers and such) When I open my cute FTP, I have folders called 'logs' in my account. I get a new log for each enw day in there, and the host jsut said to delete them because they show up on my account and take away my disk space. Are those logs representing the bandwidth at all? Because each one from each day is about 50 MBs. Could it be that I'm only using 50MBs per day? Don't know if this means anything, just thought I would throw it out there. :confused:

the above comment just gave me the spooks, I got clients that are pushing 2 gigs per day on PHPbb and they are not producing 50 meg log files. After reading what you posted I checked one of my clients. he does 9 gigs per day and his log files run about 39 - 46 megs. so I think you got a problem.

I would have to venture to say that you should review your webalizer log for specific images or files that are being loaded every day.

Sidenote:
did you change all your passwords on your system
also did you check to see that you had the lastest stable release of your software.

Mike

9 GIG's a day on a forum, wow! [Unless I've misunderstood and this wasn't about a forum, in which case it's completely possible to move 9 GIG's a day with only a few thousand accesses]. What, if I may ask, type of site is your client running? I had a chat site that was all text/html and it (without mod_gzip) moved about ~20 gig's a month, and I was getting about 250,000 hits a day on it. I wonder how much traffic a forum would have to get to move 9 GIG's a DAY!? Perhaps it's an Anime forum that has a lot of large images, or do they get a few million hits a day -- or are their HTML pages just really huge? Either way, is this 9 gig's with or without mod_gzip?

Originally posted by Tim_Greer
9 GIG's a day on a forum, wow! [Unless I've misunderstood and this wasn't about a forum, in which case it's completely possible to move 9 GIG's a day with only a few thousand accesses]. What, if I may ask, type of site is your client running? I had a chat site that was all text/html and it (without mod_gzip) moved about ~20 gig's a month, and I was getting about 250,000 hits a day on it. I wonder how much traffic a forum would have to get to move 9 GIG's a DAY!? Perhaps it's an Anime forum that has a lot of large images, or do they get a few million hits a day -- or are their HTML pages just really huge? Either way, is this 9 gig's with or without mod_gzip?


Sorry Tim, my TOS prevents me from telling you whom they are but I can tell you this.

the forum has software patches and mods ( i think that is what they are called, modification to the orginal software that can be added on ) plus very active forums ( about 30 forums atleast )

the add-ons files don't comprise more than 10% of the bandwidth usage or even the spikes. smooth as a baby's behind.

I can tell you this, I got this client on 1 server, this server is tuned to time zones and his activity makes up 90% of the traffic durring his hot hours. The distribution of his usage is the weirdest bell curve ever. almost no activity from a specific time to another time then BANG, the cpu is at 50%-75% for the rest of the time then it just stops cold ( 75 %drop on average ).

from the above you would think it's live show or something, but it's not. Just wierd. I've now been saving the log files steady for 3 months and I hope to run a couple of programs on it to see why this site is so odd in it distribution.

I recently asked the owner if I could broker his site to to d-click. he gave me the ok, I think it could be interesting. I'm waiting for permision to look at his users list to cross the data.

mike

oops, that is with mod_gzip on.

also remmber that shashdot does about 30 to 50 gigs per day. they have over 1.2MM page loads every day.

there was this one forum company that I was actively courting, but when I saw there B/W, the distruibution of usage, I got scared, that was an understatement to say the least. I could not handle it. the company consumed an easy solid 4mbps ( that's about 1100gigs per month ) steady, from all over the world, and spikes from 8 ( europe time zone ) Mbit to 15 Mbit ( USA time zone ). intense servers loads, load balancing headaches .... But I got to say one thing, the guy liked me enough to say that when I can handle it he would be glad to have a contract with me.

Btw, did anyone see FUDforum? I've been developing it for quite a while, and I'm pretty certain it's quite a bit better then all the other forums :)... take a look at http://fud.prohost.org

Originally posted by hackie
Btw, did anyone see FUDforum? I've been developing it for quite a while, and I'm pretty certain it's quite a bit better then all the other forums :)... take a look at http://fud.prohost.org

hey that's good speed forum, do you got any specks on her.

mike

How many on line members could 4 gig of bandwidth a month handle. My forum dosent have allot of graphics on it and g zip is set to 1.

Interested in finding out.
PS By the way Im 1 away from 50 members lol anyone interested in joining...and posting??? lol

:D

Originally posted by JMD
How many on line members could 4 gig of bandwidth a month handle. My forum dosent have allot of graphics on it and g zip is set to 1.

Interested in finding out.
PS By the way Im 1 away from 50 members lol anyone interested in joining...and posting??? lol

:D


do the following calculations and you will have a very good estimate for many things.

figure out your basic page load average. load up about 4 different pages.

now you know what your consuption rate average is per page.

us that figure and divide by 4 gigs.
now you have you gross amount of page loads.
divide by 30 the gross amount of page loads
you now have daily amount of page loads.

now the tricky part.
you have to guess what the average users will page load per visit. I would use a broad average of
20% 4 pages, 20% 5 pages, 20% 6 pages, 20% 7 pages, and 20% 8 pages

you now can figure out the average amount of users you can have on your system. a very baisc but expandable model. This only works if the user visits every day, but with some slight changes you can modify the varibles for users that show up 1 day a week, or load 50 pages....

mike

Want to cut out all of your bandwidth problem totally? Go to http://www.proboards.com It is very customizable to fit in with the design of your website and even add graphic and lots of other options I wasn't getting from my old CGI wwwboard.

Secondly how do you cover the costs for bandwidth on your sites. Any strategies for revenue producing?