Which are the best GNU Virtual Private Server, Vitual Dedicated Server offerings?

Regards,
JS.

What do you mean? Sorry, I don't understand your question.

Peter

FreeVSD is a *GPL* Virtual Dedicated Server LOL sorry I see the mistake with GNU (silly, very silly) . Do you know of any other offerings such as VSD?

Regards,
JS

For really high-end, try www.vmware.com.

Otherwise, www.freevsd.org is usable. But beware of the installation.

Ensim also has a feature to have a VPS, but its only available in the ServerXchange version.

Peter

Forgot to mention, you may also want to check out http://ispserver.com/en/, who has a virtual dedicated solution. I am not sure about what software they use, but it may be from http://www.*******.com/en/products/hspcomplete/.

Peter

<How forgetful of me to have to post three posts!!>

Sorry, I just realize you were looking for GPL software. I kept all the commercial offerings, just in case anyone else is interested.

Peter

Only FYI.

We (ISPserver.com) do not use HSP:Complete VDS solution.
We use our own solution - ISPsystem, it works on FreeBSD in front of HSP:Complete Linux-based.
ISPsystem isn't GPL-software.

I think JAIL more acceptable for VDS hosting then FreeVSD. On FreeVSD administrator of VSD don't have full root access - there is some kind of "admin" access. JAIL like FreeVSD is GPL.
And I think VMware isn't for VSD hosting. And it isn't GPL.

Just out of curiousity ... why did you say that VMware isn't for VSD hosting?

Thanks,
Dan

The entry level of VMWare, VMWare workstation, is aimed at desktop usage, (I think) it depends on a GUI, and it priced at a few hundred dollars.

The server version of VMWare is certainly very powerful, but the fact that you need custom quote pretty much tells you that it will run up to couple thousands dollars.

If it can be used for VDS, that's only for very high-end VDS, nothing like freevsd.

Peter

ServerExchange from ensim is very expensive but it can run several Ensim WebAppliances each as separate VPS.

Every webappliance can have its own dedicated RAM and CPU time.

Again, it is very expensive :)

Mac

How can you do virtual dedicated servers with windows???
I have seen it done, but i don't know how they did it.
Thanks
Jbuckle

PS. http://www.maximumasp.com/?z=122 i think they use vds

There is no VDS for windows, unless you run VMWare.

MaxASP don't have VDS, because you don't have root/admin access. They have semi-dedicated server.

Peter

Which VDS servers do companies such as mchost use?

I don't think mchhost offers VDS.

Peter

... no they don't

Ensim Server Exchange, WebCP, Freevsd are used by some companies.

By the way, what are advantages of VDS? I think they should use more resources.

One of the advantages is that one you can limit the server resources (CPU usage, memory usage, etc) for each VDS. This way, one client won't monopolize the whole server resource the way he can do with shared hosting. Another advantage, in connection to this, is that nobody can bring the whole server down; one can crash their own VDS without crashing the other VDSes or even the whole server.

Currently we are looking into VDS solution made by SW-Soft (http://www.sw-soft.com) called Virtuozzo. If anybody has any experience with this, let me know.

regards,
Dave@FluidHosting.com

This thread began by asking about Virtual Dedicated Servers.

Well Sphera is the only company with the Virtual Dedicated Server: http://www.sphera.com/prod_linux_solaris.php#a2

I hear Sphera now offers a download trial of their Linux product.

Is Sphera the only company?

Ensim also offers Virtual Private Server, which is the same as Virtual Dedicated Server.

Not to mention a few other alternatives.

Peter

Originally posted by ckpeter
Is Sphera the only company?

No there are other companies that offer vds solutions, but Sphera was one of the first to do it...:)

Sure Ensim offers a Virtual Private Server, but it's not the same as Sphera's Virtual Dedicated Server

1. Reseller's get a Virtual Priavte Server, but Site Owners get regular virtual hosting and the security that comes with it.

2. Ensim uses a non-standard kernel.

Regarding your points,

1. So? If you get the ServerXchange version you can give VPS/VDS to anyone.

2. Ensim uses a standard kernel, with patches. Care to enlighten me on what Sphera uses?

Peter

1. Yeah, but with ServerXchange, you can only put 10 or so Private Servers on a machine, as opposed to hundeds of Name-based OR IP-based VDSs per machine with Sphera. That adds up to a lot of money saved.

2. Sphera's uses a completely standard kernel. With Ensim's patches, when Redhat issues an update or new version, you have to sit around and wait for Ensim's engineers to issue their patch. Why wait?

But instead of debating the merits of the software, why don't you just download and try Sphera? They have a link off their homepage. See for your self if Sphera is better for you or not.

webboy1177 is comparing apples to oranges. Anyone who has tried both will tell you this. Sphera's VDS is not even close to as powerful as Ensims. Also, once you add a VDS, shared sites that are add are not billed. Sphera basically hits you for every vds. Back when we tested, they didn't even have a shared option. Also, they were so unorganized and the system absolutally sucked! Do a search on Sphera here. You will see what I mean. I am sure they have collected a lot of positive data from the Jumpline screw up (I actually heard Jumpline is dumping Sphera and going with Plesk when th enew release is out?), and fixed a lot of issues. So who knows, maybe they are better now. But the fact remains, their vds vs. Ensims are apples to oranges.


Yeah, but with ServerXchange, you can only put 10 or so

This is BS. We have 20 running on one box now and could add more if we wanted. The idea with a vds is to act as a medium between shared and dedicated. Why would you cram "hundreds" of vds's on a server?

Sphera's uses a completely standard kernel.

They do? News to me. I didn't know a standard kernel supported VDS's.

UmBillyCord, we put our customers directly on their own VDSs. Of course, resellers also put each of their customers on a separate VDS, giving them also an environment more secure than regular virtual hosting.

To answer your question, by putting hundreds of VDSs on one machine we save a lot of money.

I actually have a few friends hosted on Jumpline who are quite satisfied. Sure there were a few hiccups when they rolled out Sphera, but Alabanza forced it on them with their ultimatum. I also heard the rumor about Plesk, but then heard it was produced by someone's marketing department.

As we speak my site is down for the umpteenth time as a result of the Sphera solution. Hosting blames it on named based hosting accounts on the same server that excede disk quotas. Another words unless you use a static IP shared accounts exceeding quota will shut-down other accounts on Sphera VDServers. This is quite the opposite of what VDS touts itself not to do. Interestingly a forum poster in March pointed out about 17 problems with the Sphera thingy. As of July I have found him quite accurate on 10 of his points. I hope he is wrong on the others.

Yes I am actively looking for a new hosting provider. Anybody not experiencing trouble with Sphera might not be monitoring their sites or they don't require to reliable a service.