Hey, take a look at www.rackshack.net !
They're offering $49 GeoTrust QuickSSL Certificates :eek:

Only , it says that they're temporarily unavailable :bawling:

ah, well, I would have been interested in it... Anyone have any idea when it's back again?

I would guess that it will never be back. GeoTrust certificates are simply not priced that low--not even for resellers. The only was to sell them at that price is to take a loss, which does not exactly lend itself to sustained business growth.

Originally posted by diederik
Only , it says that they're temporarily unavailable :bawling:

...just as all of the "bate offers" they have... :cartman:

The cert provisioning process had initial problems with the Geotrust interface to our system. So, we took it down while they work through their issues.

We have 3000 certificates to sell and will hav ethem available again as soon as the provisioning process is corrected. Hopefully, this will be early next week.

We sell EVERYTHING we advertise. No "bate" offers as you say. But then again, since you're not a customer, you wouldn;t know.

Robert

I like it :)

I have one of those certs and it was FREE with my server, great service.

:)

Originally posted by headsurfer
The cert provisioning process had initial problems with the Geotrust interface to our system. So, we took it down while they work through their issues.

We have 3000 certificates to sell and will hav ethem available again as soon as the provisioning process is corrected. Hopefully, this will be early next week.

We sell EVERYTHING we advertise. No "bate" offers as you say. But then again, since you're not a customer, you wouldn;t know.

Robert

I have 2 clients using certs from verisign and they paid $350 per year! Is this normal? Who else offers certs at an affordable price that are reliable ?

Is there a difference between the certificates that companies such as Verisign & Thawte are selling, vs. the ones offered for free by some hosting providers?

isn't the geotrust quick SSL cert recognized by 98% of all browsers? Or was it 85%? If it's the latter then it's useless ... otherwise I am getting one of these babies :)

Originally posted by headsurfer
We have 3000 certificates to sell

I don't think you really mean that. You sell the service of signing the certificates, not the certificates themselves. Unless you really have 3000 signed certificates for random domain names, which would be utterly useless to anyone other than the owner of said domains.

QuickSSL is compatible with Microsoft Internet Explorer™ 5.01 and higher and Netscape/AOL Web browsers version 4.51 and higher, comprising an estimated 90% or more of all Web browsers in use today. All other commonly used browsers may connect securely with Web servers using QuickSSL certificates. However, some older browsers may display a dialogue box indicating that the certificate is not trusted. This means that the certificated is not located in the browser certificate store and, in most cases, the user will be prompted to install it with a few clicks of their mouse.

Originally posted by GlideTech
I have 2 clients using certs from verisign and they paid $350 per year! Is this normal? Who else offers certs at an affordable price that are reliable ? You might try www.SSL4Less.com they offer the GeoTrust certs for $99

I've never had the opportunity to use them, but I've seen their offers here on WHT.


Best of Luck,

Keith

Originally posted by headsurfer
We sell EVERYTHING we advertise. No "bate" offers as you say. But then again, since you're not a customer, you wouldn't know.

No offence but the really good deals are gone so fast almost too fast... :rolleyes:

Ahm and BTW... I AM a customer.... since almost 2 years now when your techs still drove 50 miles to the colo to reboot :D
I STILL have a RaQ and a Duron Box for backup purposes.

But it is ok if you don't know me... I know YOU and that is all that matters :eek:

Live long and prosper

Robert

Originally posted by adland
QuickSSL is compatible with Microsoft Internet Explorer™ 5.01 and higher and Netscape/AOL Web browsers version 4.51 and higher, comprising an estimated 90% or more of all Web browsers in use today. All other commonly used browsers may connect securely with Web servers using QuickSSL certificates. However, some older browsers may display a dialogue box indicating that the certificate is not trusted. This means that the certificated is not located in the browser certificate store and, in most cases, the user will be prompted to install it with a few clicks of their mouse.

This means 10% off all your visitors will have issues. Many will just accept it, but some will not. To me this is truely a case of you get what you pay for. I can assure you, that those 10% who "fight the power" of upgrades are very vocal and will let you or your business know they didn't buy something because of it. For this reason, I stick with Thawte. We could have bought bulk certs from these guys a while back and made much more profit then we do on certs now with Thatwe, that 10% really is a big number.

This is not a mark against RS, as this is a great deal! It is just a mark against GeoTrust for releasing a cheap, half-assed product.

I like Comodo certificates at http://www.instantssl.com They are $49, and they work on most browsers. As I've posted here recently in other threads, Geotrust is the ONLY certificate that doesn't work for WebTV'ers(MSNTV). MSNTV has 1 million users, and just 2 days ago, I read an article that stated 40% of MSNTV'ers buy from the internet. If that's true, you are missing a big market if you use a Geotrust certificate. ... and of course MSNTV isn't the only browser Geotrust won't work on since no signing authority is 100%.

How many people using MSNTV do you think can create a web site and would buy web hosting?

How many people using WebTV do you think would know the difference between HTTP and HTTPS anyway?

Originally posted by R Doherty
How many people using MSNTV do you think can create a web site and would buy web hosting?

Thousands. WebTVers were some of the first to learn raw HTML, Javascript, etc. and build websites. I know, because I was one of the first WebTV users, and have communicated with many of them. I also have a PC, as do many WebTVers. However, many of us PC users that have WebTV, use WebTV most of the time because it is easier to do alot of things with WebTV.

Originally posted by cperciva
How many people using WebTV do you think would know the difference between HTTP and HTTPS anyway?

LOL. You really don't know WebTV'ers very well. Being an ex-AOL user (cable modem now) and still a WebTVer, I can tell you that I've found that WebTVers know far more about this stuff than AOLers and many PCers. A good many WebTVers not only write raw HTML with CSS; but also write Javascript, Perl, Python, PHP, C/C++, etc.

Oh... and webtvers are *always* looking for a good webhost in their firewalled forums. For one example, a slew of them just recently left Aletia. Aletia used to have a forum just for them. I don't know if they still do. I never hosted with Aletia. Also, Tripod has a special area for WebTVers... so I guess we must be a little important. :)

I like Comodo certificates at http://www.instantssl.com They are $49, and they work on most browsers.

Current Browser Compatibility:
Internet Explorer 5.01 and above
Netscape 4.7 and above

Reports conducted by Comodo Research Lab show that over 90% of the current browser universe inherently trust InstantSSL Certificates.


Sounds about the same. Anybody want to buy my WebTV unit that's been on a shelf in my closet for the last 2-1/2 years?

Hello
We are a geotrust reseller and supplied a cert to a UK government department and they have not reported any browser compatibility issues.
Also neither have any of our other customers.

Thawte phoned me up and tried to BS me about this 85% thing but that refers to the UTN-Userfirst cert that Geotrust used to give away free.
The Quick SSL cert is just the old equifax certificate and when hosts were using those a year or so back nobody was raising this issue.


Gordon

... the QUALITY of trust is relative. Anyone can get a GeoTrust but only few can get f.e. a GlobalSign (my trust provider) cause they are very strict with papers and all and prefer to NOT make a sale rather then catch a rotten fish.

Also they are a bit more expensive which is GOOD but not as outrageous as VeriSign prices which is also very GOOD ;)

The numbers game...80%, 90%, 98%... it's all guesstimates to hearsay. Having said that who knows, what I read about WebTV having a million users and that 40% of them buy from the internet may not be too accurate either.

What I don't understand is... Why pay extra for a $10K guaranteed secure certificate instead of a $50 one? As I understand it, the guarantee doesn't protect *you*, it is for the *customer*. Will most customers even know whether you have a $50 or $10,000 guarantee. I see no advantage. Am I missing something?

I don't know if your missing something, either, because I thought of the same question. I guess the extra $10,000 is insurance if the customer has been injured in some way by the SSL technology failing and some hacker getting access to their information (credit card, etc.). Of course, good luck trying to prove all this in court so you can collect your $10,000. Judges don't seem to even understand the concept of "hosting" a website let alone the concept of SSL "encryption".