 | View Full Version : 3000 ms pings w/cogent Carm 05-03-2002, 12:57 AM im getting em.. anyone else? Ping statistics for 66.28.0.10: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 3147ms, Maximum = 3190ms, Average = 3171ms iamdave 05-03-2002, 01:12 AM Damn thats really high.... Jedito 05-03-2002, 01:22 AM That's fast :stickout richy 05-03-2002, 01:22 AM isnt that a bit good for cogent ;) i heard they used carrier pidgeons for longer hops. but seriously how about a tracert so you can see where abouts the problem is occuring, traces both ways if possible. MCHost-Marc 05-03-2002, 01:24 AM root@pacifica [~]# ping -c 10 66.28.0.10 PING 66.28.0.10 (66.28.0.10) from 66.197.165.250 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 66.28.0.10: icmp_seq=0 ttl=244 time=103.973 msec 64 bytes from 66.28.0.10: icmp_seq=1 ttl=244 time=106.663 msec 64 bytes from 66.28.0.10: icmp_seq=2 ttl=244 time=100.250 msec 64 bytes from 66.28.0.10: icmp_seq=3 ttl=244 time=111.161 msec 64 bytes from 66.28.0.10: icmp_seq=4 ttl=244 time=118.601 msec 64 bytes from 66.28.0.10: icmp_seq=5 ttl=244 time=101.535 msec 64 bytes from 66.28.0.10: icmp_seq=6 ttl=244 time=103.829 msec 64 bytes from 66.28.0.10: icmp_seq=7 ttl=244 time=99.663 msec 64 bytes from 66.28.0.10: icmp_seq=8 ttl=244 time=103.976 msec 64 bytes from 66.28.0.10: icmp_seq=9 ttl=244 time=101.698 msec --- 66.28.0.10 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 99.663/105.134/118.601/5.521 ms root@pacifica [~]# :) richy 05-03-2002, 01:26 AM pings 45.ms from rs out over cogent. richy 05-03-2002, 01:41 AM could have been a few things, a duff router at a critical point. network congestion, poor peering, a pidgeon getting tired. is it still that bad for you? sonichost 05-03-2002, 02:13 AM I belive I read somewhere that they were stress testing some new peering points. I don't know why that would affect current peering points to THAT extent though. :rolleyes: richy 05-03-2002, 02:35 AM new peering points cool. nice to see they found a use for those 33.6k modems ;) wonder if this is in response to the increased number of posts in the forums about mental distances covered by packets just to keep them on network? s gonna be interesting to see how it affects performance long term. ClusterMania 05-03-2002, 03:44 AM x- | ADSL | | 2 | | 204.174.218.86 | inetgw1-adsl.bctel.net | ?(Canada) | 36 | -x-- | Telus Advanced Communications | | 3 | | 209.53.75.106 | vancbc01dr01.bb.telus.com | ?(Canada) | 53 | --x-- | Telus Advanced Communications | | 4 | | 204.174.217.6 | vancbc01br01.bb.telus.com | ?(Canada) | 25 | x- | Telus Advanced Communications | | 5 | | 209.53.75.182 | clgrab21br01.bb.telus.com | ?(Canada) | 40 | x--- | Telus Advanced Communications | | 6 | | 205.233.111.67 | clgrabezbr01.bb.telus.com | ?Calgary, AL, Canada | 53 | -x---- | AGT Advanced Communications | | 7 | | 205.233.111.194 | chcnil23br00.bb.telus.com | ?Calgary, AL, Canada | 95 | -x---- | AGT Advanced Communications | | 8 | | 216.200.254.30 | so-3-1-0.cr1.ord2.us.mfnx.net | ?San Jose, CA 95113 | 82 | -x-- | Abovenet Communications, Inc. | | 9 | | 208.184.233.149 | pos5-0.mpr1.dfw2.us.mfnx.net | ?San Jose, CA 95113 | 99 | x- | Abovenet Communications, Inc. | | 10 | | 216.200.127.217 | so-3-0-0.cr2.dfw2.us.mfnx.net | ?San Jose, CA 95113 | 105 | -x | Abovenet Communications, Inc. | | 11 | | 208.184.232.114 | so-5-0-0.pr1.dfw3.us.mfnx.net | ?San Jose, CA 95113 | 104 | -x- | Abovenet Communications, Inc. | | 12 | | 64.124.51.171 | 64.124.51.171.cogentco.com | ?San Jose, CA 95113 | 140 | -x---- | Abovenet Communications, Inc. | | 13 | | 66.28.4.25 | p15-0.core01.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com | ?Washington, DC 20007 | 126 | x-- | Cogent Communications | | 14 | | 66.28.4.89 | p4-0.core01.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com | ?Washington, DC 20007 | 127 | -x- | Cogent Communications | | 15 | | 66.28.0.10 | salt.cogentco.com | ?Washington, DC 20007 | 133 | -x-- | Cogent Communications | ClusterMania 05-03-2002, 03:45 AM Pinging 66.28.0.10 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 66.28.0.10: bytes=32 time=132ms TTL=240 Reply from 66.28.0.10: bytes=32 time=138ms TTL=240 Reply from 66.28.0.10: bytes=32 time=128ms TTL=240 Reply from 66.28.0.10: bytes=32 time=137ms TTL=240 Ping statistics for 66.28.0.10: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 128ms, Maximum = 138ms, Average = 133ms Hmm, speed looks ok here NetXL 05-03-2002, 04:12 AM 310ms here, average from Au-Us ClusterMania 05-04-2002, 03:18 AM http://www.c-prompt-dev.com/The_Internet.htm Use this to trace your server from different servers all over the world. I find that Aussie has pretty bad ping times to North America. I traced it to my own IP on telus using http://www.cbl.com.au/cgi-bin/clubtrace and they were horrible. Ok, I did some traces to Verifast.net that is on Cogent. I was going to do this sooner or latter but here are some of my results http://cache2.online.ee:81/cgi-bin/nph-traceroute (Tallinn, Estonia) traceroute to www.verifast.net (66.28.252.8): 2-20 hops, 38 byte packets 2 213.180.11.62 laki-CR.online.ee 2.59 ms (ttl=127) 3 213.180.11.66 musta-CR.online.ee 3.46 ms (ttl=126) 4 213.180.11.69 tix-CR.online.ee 2.92 ms (ttl=125) 5 212.47.215.6 r1-Fa4-0-80-Tln-TIX.EE.KPNQwest.net 3.22 ms (ttl=251) 6 134.222.224.5 r5-AT3-1.105.sthm-KPN1.SE.kpnqwest.net 10.7 ms (ttl=250) 7 134.222.119.226 r2-Ge0-2-0-0.Sthm-KQ1.SE.KPNQwest.net 11.2 ms (ttl=248!) 8 134.222.230.157 r2-Se0-3-0.hmbg-KQ2.DE.KPNQwest.net 30.5 ms (ttl=247!) 9 134.222.230.117 r2-Se0-2-0.0.ffm-KQ1.DE.kpnqwest.net 33.4 ms (ttl=246!) 10 134.222.230.29 r2-Se0-3-0.0.ledn-KQ1.NL.kpnqwest.net 38.5 ms (ttl=245!) 11 134.222.96.34 r1-PO4-0.obl-KQ1.NL.kpnqwest.net 39.1 ms (ttl=245) 12 134.222.228.26 r1-PO1-3.wdc.US.kpnqwest.net 149 ms (ttl=244) 13 205.171.24.113 wdc-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net 135 ms (ttl=239!) 14 205.171.24.69 wdc-core-03.inet.qwest.net 138 ms (ttl=240!) 15 205.171.5.243 atl-core-03.inet.qwest.net 164 ms (ttl=237!) 16 205.171.21.106 atl-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net 148 ms (ttl=239!) 17 205.215.2.53 205.215.2.53 151 ms (ttl=237!) 18 66.28.28.201 g6-2.core01.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com 148 ms (ttl=237!) 19 66.28.4.137 p15-0.core01.jax01.atlas.cogentco.com 160 ms (ttl=236!) 20 66.28.4.141 p14-0.core01.tpa01.atlas.cogentco.com 162 ms (ttl=234!) http://home.interlink.or.jp/~kumadaki/traceroute.html (Japan) 1 203.141.151.225 (203.141.151.225) 0.540 ms 0.478 ms master-gate.interlink.ad.jp (203.141.128.1) 1.150 ms 2 210.155.141.145 (210.155.141.145) 1.560 ms 0.641 ms 0.635 ms 3 juniper-0.ikebukuro.mex.ad.jp (210.155.132.142) 1.138 ms 2.778 ms 1.827 ms 4 cisco-2.ikebukuro.mex.ad.jp (210.155.131.82) 0.920 ms 0.772 ms 0.818 ms 5 AS6461.ix.jpix.ad.jp (210.171.224.87) 2.214 ms 1.528 ms 1.046 ms 6 pos4-0.mpr2.nrt2.jp.mfnx.net (208.184.233.138) 1.708 ms 1.515 ms 1.042 ms 7 so-2-1-0.cr2.nrt3.jp.mfnx.net (208.184.210.74) 1.266 ms 1.458 ms 2.508 ms 8 so-3-2-1.cr1.sjc3.us.mfnx.net (64.125.30.10) 101.060 ms 101.257 ms 100.804 ms 9 pos10-0.mpr1.sjc2.us.mfnx.net (208.185.175.157) 101.013 ms 100.967 ms 100.531 ms 10 so-1-1-0.mpr4.sjc2.us.mfnx.net (208.184.102.202) 100.444 ms 100.758 ms so-3-1-0.mpr4.sjc2.us.mfnx.net (208.184.233.49) 100.425 ms 11 pos12-0.cr7.sjc2.us.mfnx.net (64.125.30.13) 100.645 ms 100.197 ms 100.521 ms 12 pos2-0.mpr1.dfw2.us.mfnx.net (208.184.232.81) 140.748 ms 140.805 ms 140.905 ms 13 so-3-0-0.cr1.dfw2.us.mfnx.net (216.200.127.213) 140.712 ms 140.914 ms 140.841 ms 14 so-4-0-0.pr1.dfw3.us.mfnx.net (64.125.31.218) 140.378 ms 140.817 ms 140.740 ms 15 64.124.51.171.cogentco.com (64.124.51.171) 146.537 ms 146.222 ms 146.516 ms 16 p5-0.core02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.134) 146.631 ms 146.969 ms 147.290 ms 17 p15-0.core01.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.69) 147.078 ms 146.239 ms 146.699 ms 18 p4-0.core01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.94) 147.436 ms 148.072 ms 148.081 ms 19 g49.ba01.b006096-1.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.186) 149.296 ms 147.934 ms 147.596 ms 20 66.28.31.122 (66.28.31.122) 147.612 ms 147.617 ms 147.995 ms 21 66.28.252.8 (66.28.252.8) 148.582 ms 147.763 ms 150.873 ms http://www.belnet.be/cgi-bin/traceroute (BELGIUM) traceroute to www.verifast.net (66.28.252.8), 32 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 g4-1-0-3.c7513.science.belnet.net (193.190.199.69) 99.789 ms 2 g1-1.c12410.science.belnet.net (193.191.254.9) 1.727 ms 3 gigabitethernet4-0-139.ipcolo1.Brussels1.Level3.net (212.3.234.129) 0.356 ms 4 ge-7-1-0-12.mp2.Brussels1.Level3.net (212.3.239.34) 0.514 ms 5 so-1-0-0.mp1.London2.Level3.net (212.187.128.49) 5.078 ms 6 so-1-0-0.mp2.Weehawken1.Level3.net (212.187.128.138) 77.463 ms 7 so-2-0-0.mp1.SanJose1.Level3.net (209.247.9.114) 148.754 ms 8 gigabitethernet4-2.core1.SanJose1.Level3.net (64.159.2.133) 148.999 ms 9 so-2-1-3.pr1.SanFrancisco1.CA.us.netrail.net (205.215.1.229) 162.444 ms 10 GigE2-1.tr1.SanFrancisco1.CA.us.netrail.net (205.215.12.1) 162.419 ms 11 p13-0.core02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.28.57) 150.761 ms 12 p15-0.core01.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.69) 150.582 ms 13 p4-0.core01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.94) 151.784 ms 14 g50.ba01.b006096-1.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.190) 152.167 ms 15 Verifast_Network.demarc.cogentco.com (66.28.31.122) 151.997 ms 16 66.28.252.8 (66.28.252.8) 152.040 ms http://www.debug.net/connectivity/?www.verifast.net (GERMANY) traceroute to www.verifast.net (66.28.252.8), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 r0.ffm1.de.carpe.net (212.96.130.129) 0.937 ms 0.838 ms 0.774 ms 2 w1-0r0.ffm0.de.carpe.net (212.96.129.5) 2.682 ms 4.107 ms 5.399 ms 3 r5Gi3-0.51.Ffm-IXA1.DE.KPNQwest.net (134.222.130.249) 4.929 ms 2.721 ms 2.6 ms 4 r1-Se1-1-0.0.ffm-KQ1.DE.KPNQwest.net (134.222.105.229) 3.243 ms 3.156 ms 3.118 ms 5 r2-Se0-0-0.0.ffm-KQ1.DE.kpnqwest.net (134.222.230.106) 3.22 ms 3.218 ms 3.178 ms 6 r2-Se0-3-0.0.ledn-KQ1.NL.kpnqwest.net (134.222.230.29) 8.575 ms 8.644 ms 9.538 ms 7 r1-PO4-0.obl-KQ1.NL.kpnqwest.net (134.222.96.34) 9.279 ms 12.476 ms 11.975 ms 8 r1-PO1-0.wdc.US.kpnqwest.net (134.222.228.34) 109.809 ms 106.495 ms 106.613 ms 9 wdc-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.24.113) 96.954 ms 91.921 ms 91.803 ms 10 wdc-core-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.24.69) 91.928 ms 91.876 ms 92.616 ms 11 atl-core-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.243) 107.399 ms 107.35 ms 107.412 ms 12 atl-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.106) 107.325 ms 107.231 ms 107.139 ms 13 205.215.2.53 (205.215.2.53) 117.504 ms 110.543 ms 107.329 ms 14 g6-2.core01.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.28.201) 107.538 ms 107.407 ms 107.365 ms 15 p15-0.core01.jax01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.137) 113.841 ms 113.898 ms 113.883 ms 16 p14-0.core01.tpa01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.141) 118.888 ms 122.057 ms 119.047 ms 17 p5-0.core01.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.45) 137.702 ms 138.043 ms 137.724 ms 18 p14-0.core01.san01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.6) 171.758 ms 168.783 ms 172.836 ms 19 p4-0.core01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.77) 230.257 ms 348.205 ms 205.76 ms 20 p14-0.core01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.74) 168.391 ms 168.378 ms 173.769 ms 21 g50.ba01.b006096-1.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.190) 168.655 ms 168.454 ms 169.931 ms 22 Verifast_Network.demarc.cogentco.com (66.28.31.122) 168.727 ms 168.709 ms 174.756 ms 23 66.28.252.8 (66.28.252.8) 169.156 ms 168.696 ms 175.167 ms http://www.eu.org/cgi-bin/nph-traceroute?www.verifast.net (FRANCE) traceroute to www.verifast.net (66.28.252.8), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 rtbsd.enst.fr (137.194.2.248) 0.187 ms 0.303 ms 0.151 ms 2 enst-free.enst.fr (137.194.2.253) 0.344 ms 0.301 ms 0.602 ms 3 telehouse-3.routers.proxad.net (213.228.3.3) 1.462 ms 1.264 ms 1.216 ms 4 blackd-th1-1-a6.routers.proxad.net (213.228.3.23) 2.486 ms 1.840 ms 1.879 ms 5 fe2-1.mpr1.cdg4.fr.mfnx.net (208.184.231.241) 1.987 ms 1.543 ms 2.529 ms 6 pos11-0.cr2.cdg2.fr.mfnx.net (208.184.231.234) 2.521 ms 1.651 ms 2.034 ms 7 so-5-0-0.cr2.lhr3.uk.mfnx.net (64.125.31.158) 10.308 ms 9.334 ms 10.429 ms 8 so-7-0-0.cr2.lga1.us.mfnx.net (64.125.31.182) 81.941 ms 82.435 ms 82.256 ms 9 so-0-0-0.cr2.lga2.us.mfnx.net (208.184.232.198) 81.982 ms 82.024 ms 82.099 ms 10 core1-lga2-oc48.lga4.above.net (64.124.232.2) 81.981 ms 82.140 ms 81.939 ms 11 64.124.51.186.cogentco.com (64.124.51.186) 81.089 ms 80.226 ms 80.785 ms 12 p15-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.14) 80.835 ms 80.667 ms 82.073 ms 13 p14-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.86) 107.308 ms 106.959 ms 106.877 ms 14 p15-0.core01.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.61) 310.019 ms 137.553 ms 205.352 ms 15 p5-0.core01.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.42) 152.519 ms 162.209 ms 152.710 ms 16 p4-0.core01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.94) 153.845 ms 153.542 ms 153.232 ms 17 g49.ba01.b006096-1.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.186) 153.495 ms 153.430 ms 153.734 ms 18 66.28.31.122 (66.28.31.122) 153.540 ms 153.467 ms 153.832 ms 19 66.28.252.8 (66.28.252.8) 229.218 ms 153.612 ms 154.553 ms ClusterMania 05-04-2002, 03:43 AM Had to split it cause post was too large =/ http://www.cbl.com.au/cgi-bin/clubtrace?www.verifast.net (AUSTRALIA) traceroute to www.verifast.net (66.28.252.8), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 max6000-1.cbl.com.au (203.24.198.12) 2.055 ms 1.529 ms 0.988 ms 2 uunet-gw.cbl.com.au (203.24.198.14) 1.273 ms 1.291 ms 2.486 ms 3 tnt1.ballarat.au.da.uu.net (210.84.63.102) 36.042 ms 89.302 ms 35.480 ms 4 nr1.ballarat.ozemail.com.au (203.108.182.17) 35.170 ms 230.561 ms 63.255 ms 5 63.34.238.121 (63.34.238.121) 159.485 ms 108.078 ms 73.155 ms 6 353.at-3-0-0.XR1.MEL1.ALTER.NET (210.80.33.197) 87.944 ms 143.816 ms 65.705 ms 7 So-3-1-1.XR2.MEL1.ALTER.NET (210.80.33.130) 80.026 ms 312.009 ms 201.716 ms 8 so-0-0-1.XR1.SYD4.ALTER.NET (210.80.33.17) 72.138 ms 62.245 ms 206.067 ms 9 0.SO-3-0-0.TR2.SYD4.ALTER.NET (210.80.51.73) 89.879 ms 273.898 ms 135.978 ms 10 0.so-4-0-1.IR2.LAX12.Alter.Net (210.80.50.190) 348.645 ms 607.720 ms 230.965 ms 11 POS2-0.IR2.LAX9.ALTER.NET (137.39.31.238) 357.535 ms 224.583 ms 288.410 ms 12 122.at-6-1-0.TR2.LAX9.ALTER.NET (152.63.11.14) 358.395 ms 236.030 ms 246.534 ms 13 296.at-1-1-0.XR2.LAX9.ALTER.NET (152.63.112.253) 371.294 ms 327.822 ms 414.566 ms 14 0.so-2-0-0.XL2.LAX9.ALTER.NET (152.63.115.166) 306.737 ms 351.453 ms 251.762 ms 15 0.so-1-0-0.TL2.LAX9.ALTER.NET (152.63.115.150) 392.090 ms 437.821 ms 349.773 ms 16 0.so-1-0-0.TL2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.15.250) 444.065 ms 390.407 ms 284.389 ms 17 0.so-7-0-0.XL2.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.113.21) 452.709 ms 234.687 ms 231.961 ms 18 POS1-0.XR2.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.78) 394.416 ms 232.186 ms 354.254 ms 19 188.ATM10-0-0.BR1.PAO1.ALTER.NET (146.188.148.101) 577.176 ms 389.710 ms 380.636 ms 20 * 204.255.168.210 (204.255.168.210) 404.708 ms 468.368 ms 21 GigE2-1.tr1.SanFrancisco1.CA.us.netrail.net (205.215.12.1) 517.298 ms 250.692 ms 579.537 ms 22 p13-0.core02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.28.57) 574.207 ms 810.198 ms 450.319 ms 23 p15-0.core01.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.69) 585.400 ms 557.134 ms 466.189 ms 24 p4-0.core01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.94) 321.614 ms 374.242 ms 414.702 ms 25 g49.ba01.b006096-1.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.186) 307.234 ms 297.148 ms 412.811 ms 26 Verifast_Network.demarc.cogentco.com (66.28.31.122) 408.197 ms 336.855 ms 314.808 ms 27 66.28.252.8 (66.28.252.8) 477.300 ms 394.529 ms 497.385 ms Worst is to AUSTRALIA and you can try http://www.traceroute.org/ for more. Hope this helps iamdave 05-04-2002, 04:46 AM http://forum.rackshack.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6390 HeadSurfer posted that at RackShack forums, maybe your problem(s) have to do with it? ClusterMania 05-04-2002, 09:37 PM I am glad Cogent keeps growing and is getting better everything. I think they are the fastest growing ISP and is getting customers left and right. I just hope they will last a long time cause only companies like Cogent force other telecoms to reduce pricing which webhosting companies to become more competitive and allow better pricing so more businesses can afford to setup websites. StarGate 05-05-2002, 04:28 AM ... about Cogent people. Yipes and NAC for example (Providers we use) are 120$+ per mbit. Cogent is 30$ per mbit. In this case you don't get what you payed fore but you really get MORE then you payed for! |