Somebody can tell something about this hosting, or may be somebody using their services?

Originally posted by babo
Somebody can tell something about this hosting, or may be somebody using their services?

well on there home page it says "Unlimited transfer & unlimited bandwidth". There is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth.

I would personally keep looking.... :)

They provide only 10MB or 100MB port. So no BW monitoring :)

Try doing a search here on the WHT forums for them. FDCServers.net is the new name of the colocation/dedicated servers portion of KingComp Systems.

Their 'unlimited transfer' advertisement is indeed misleading. You do get unmetered usage of your connection, but since your connection obviously can't push an unlimited number of bits it's not really unlimited.

i wonder why they changed their name again? :eek:

Originally posted by porcupine
i wonder why they changed their name again? :eek:

I think they've only changed it once. :) As I recall someone from KingComp said that it was to keep their hardware-selling business (KingComp) separate from their colocation/dedicated server business (FDCServers).

Have had a dedi server with them for a few months and have no complaints as yet. Friendly and timely customer service. Uptime etc. has been great. Only thing is they don't provide UPS unless you have a server on a dedicated 10 MBit port. They also provide some nice hardware upgrades for prepaying :)

Just signed up 5 minutes ago with them. Hopefully they provide a good service.

Anyway reboot and OS installation is free. So, I guess i can mess up with the server.

Can someone tell me how FDCServers can give unlimited transfer, while other companies limit you to a certain number of GB transfered?

If I got a 10Mbit port from them, and used it 100% all day long, would they eventually cut me off like some of the webhosting companies that offer "unlimited" transfers?

All the companies which offer 10MB or whatever port, do not cut you off. Because you are already in the limit of 10Mbps.

And if they do cut you off, don't forget to post it here so that others can learn a lesson ;)

Originally posted by masood
All the companies which offer 10MB or whatever port, do not cut you off. Because you are already in the limit of 10Mbps.


OK, so how can they afford to do this while other providers can't?


And if they do cut you off, don't forget to post it here so that others can learn a lesson ;)

Currently I don't have any reason to get this service, but if I did, and I was cut off I'd certainly tell you all :stickout

Other than the "unlimited" stuff that bothers me, I also don't think some of their site content makes much sense. I.e., you can get the same 100mbit connection for $99, as you can for $399. Why pay another $300 for the same thing? Um-metered 100 mbit for $99/mo., huh? Hmmmmmm, that's *pretty cheap*, I _have_ to wonder. Also, their order forms asking for your credit card information don't even use SSL. Why would a business offering such large connections on dedicated and collocated servers, not even use SSL? There's other questions I'd have, personally, if I was looking at their services, but since I'm not, I just thought I'd make mention of a couple of things that seemed strange.

Originally posted by devon


OK, so how can they afford to do this while other providers can't?



Their bandwidth provider is Cogent, and their data center isn't exactly telco-grade. It's pretty nice for people without a lot of money who need a lot of bandwidth, though.


Currently I don't have any reason to get this service, but if I did, and I was cut off I'd certainly tell you all :stickout

I've had their service for a few months now, and so far it's been quite satisfactory. I pushed out about 600GB last month, and other of their customers have evidently done two to three times that, so they don't seem to be cutting anyone off for high bandwidth usage. :)

Originally posted by Tim_Greer
Other than the "unlimited" stuff that bothers me, I also don't think some of their site content makes much sense. I.e., you can get the same 100mbit connection for $99, as you can for $399. Why pay another $300 for the same thing? Um-metered 100 mbit for $99/mo., huh? Hmmmmmm, that's *pretty cheap*, I _have_ to wonder.

The difference between the $99/month and $399/month service as I understand it is that the $399 service _guarantees_ 10mb/sec, and there are no more than ten boxes per 100mb/s connection. Ten boxes at $399/month is $3990/month for them, so as far as bandwidth costs go they're making money on that plan (at $3000 per 100mb/s Cogent feed). (I'm sure they've also got loads of other expenses that take a cut out of that $990/month. I'm just talking with regard the bandwidth.)

The $99/month connection has many more boxes per 100mb/s link on it, though I don't know how many. If the cost/earnings ratio is the same as the other plan it'd be 40 boxes per 100mb/s, but I've no idea whether that's the case.


Also, their order forms asking for your credit card information don't even use SSL. Why would a business offering such large connections on dedicated and collocated servers, not even use SSL? There's other questions I'd have, personally, if I was looking at their services, but since I'm not, I just thought I'd make mention of a couple of things that seemed strange.

Yeah, the non-secure credit card page did weird me out, so I paid using PayPal instead.

Originally posted by amaroq


The difference between the $99/month and $399/month service as I understand it is that the $399 service _guarantees_ 10mb/sec, and there are no more than ten boxes per 100mb/s connection. Ten boxes at $399/month is $3990/month for them, so as far as bandwidth costs go they're making money on that plan (at $3000 per 100mb/s Cogent feed). (I'm sure they've also got loads of other expenses that take a cut out of that $990/month. I'm just talking with regard the bandwidth.)

The $99/month connection has many more boxes per 100mb/s link on it, though I don't know how many. If the cost/earnings ratio is the same as the other plan it'd be 40 boxes per 100mb/s, but I've no idea whether that's the case.



Well, they didn't seem to be too specific about that, but I didn't look too close -- thanks for the information helping me understand what they meant. I suppose that makes better sense, but that basically just means "unlimited 100 mbps connection, of whatever is left -- which could potentially be nothing at all -- or pay the $399/mo., and you'll get what we say you can get." I think they should be more clear, even if they don't word is as cynically as I posted it, but maybe they were, if I read their site more closely. No matter, not a bad deal if they give you it, but some re-wording about the "unlimited" thing might be in order, as well as how they use "un-metered" and what they mean by their plans and the differences.

yeah, i have just realised that they dont have ssl after i have ordered using my credit card.

5/3/2002 1:06PM outlaw-star how come you dont use SSl for the payment page ???

5/3/2002 1:07PM bummer we are waiting for our webmaster to do SSL...customers cn also fax that form

Originally posted by amaroq


Their bandwidth provider is Cogent, and their data center isn't exactly telco-grade. It's pretty nice for people without a lot of money who need a lot of bandwidth, though.


OK, that makes sense then. So I guess my next question is why do companies like UUNET charge by the GB(as is my understanding), while Cogent can afford not to do that?



I've had their service for a few months now, and so far it's been quite satisfactory. I pushed out about 600GB last month, and other of their customers have evidently done two to three times that, so they don't seem to be cutting anyone off for high bandwidth usage. :)

Sounds good. If I ever need something like this, I'll be sure to give these guys a try.