I know this may sound rich coming from a fellow host but i just received this at my personal email...


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I wish these people would just give up with spam. I have been getting a lot of spam from ipowerweb too. Anyone else finding this?

And if anyone from rescuehosting is reading. My hosting is fine thankyou, very reliable and dont spam! :stickout

Gah!

I also got this email into my mailbox and here's WHOIS info on rescuehosting.com

Registrant:
Brian Baldwin

Registrar: Go Daddy Software (http://registrar.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: RESCUEHOSTING.COM

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.RESCUEHOSTING.COM
NS2.RESCUEHOSTING.COM
NS1.RACKSHACK.NET
NS2.RACKSHACK.NET

Sounds familiar but cannot remember exactly what does

A.

I just realised where I know them from.

Rescue hosting is another name for webmanixhosting.com. They were/are a fasthosts/donhost reseller. I have a domain on the fasthost resold win2k plan. Apparantly I get 30gb bandwidth from when I signed up. I might try putting some major traffic that way and see if they shut me down for 30gb.

Knew i recognised them somewhere.

Having Problems with your current host?

How about server reliability?

Getting the customer service you once had, or always wanted?


Note the irony.... well actually I have been having problems with reliability/service with the current domain I have with webmanixhosting. Perhaps I should move to rescuehost. :rolleyes:

And I'm a WebManixHosting customer

I will not share any unconfirmed thoughts untill I get a response from WebManix


A.

I know they are run by the same people because when I signed up with webmanixhosting in the 'old days' it was run by keith linden and brian baldwin.

i.e Brian Baldwin being the owner of rescuehosting.com

Ok, you said it :)

I believe BBaldwin doesn't work for WebManix anymore, so.....


A.

Yah I was kinda guessing that too?

Originally posted by The Laughing Cow
I just realised where I know them from.

Rescue hosting is another name for webmanixhosting.com. <snip>
Knew i recognised them somewhere.


Webmanix didn't send you the spam, Brian a EX-Member with them did. I got the same Email and was really pissed about it.

I can't see why he would do what he did, I remember Brian when he worked with them and he was all about anti-spam yet he pulls this stunt.


I feel for anyone who switched cause when he ran support it took days to get a reply, but when the others there at webmanix do it they get back to you in 2 hours or less.


I for one don't trust a company that has to spam to get clients.
I never said I wanted a new host nor did I ask for him to give me information. I would report it, but he owns the server it was sent from so it would do no good.


SteveD3

Originally posted by alipatov
Ok, you said it :)

I believe BBaldwin doesn't work for WebManix anymore, so.....


A.


You are 100% correct, he left webmanix to start a smear campaign about two monthes ago, Im gonna guess he took the email list they had for clients when he left.


SteveD3

Originally posted by SteveD3



You are 100% correct, he left webmanix to start a smear campaign about two monthes ago, Im gonna guess he took the email list they had for clients when he left.


SteveD3

Which is now confirmed by webmanix, i got an email from them

A.

Oh really? Im surprised because i was under the impression that these two were in some kinda force i.e police/medical/fire since some things didn't add up. Looks like one of them left.

Originally posted by The Laughing Cow
Oh really? Im surprised because i was under the impression that these two were in some kinda force i.e police/medical/fire since some things didn't add up. Looks like one of them left.

Brian works with, the police, but he himself isn't a police officer. I would think the police wouldn't resort to theft and spam to smear a once business partner. Im still in dismay that he would go to such lengths to ruin someone whome he once worked with.


SteveD3

Ill only respond to this thread once, as I know how people like to egg on issues.

First, I appologize if the Email that I sent over the weekend made it to any Webmanix customers. I had sent the Email out on a list that was comprised of certain agencies that had requested the informaiton. Hey **** happens what can I say.

Second, the assumtions are correct, I was once apart of Webmanix... In fact I built the company from the ground up and designed everything for them. However I left Keith over some differences and started my own Hosting avenue.

As far as SteveD3 comments go about a Smear campaing, not sure what he is basing his thoughts on that... because if that were the case mannnnn do I have a lot to tell. But thats not my place.

As far as my position with local police departments, I am a reserve police officer, K9 Unit for a local Search and Rescue Unit and work with some other departments developing web sites.

I have you guys to thank though for the wonderful web site traffic, and sales. Wish you all the luck and again i appologize if you recived my Email in error.

I just got this:


Dear Valued Customer,



Yesterday afternoon many Webmanix Hosting customers received a Spam email from a former partner of this company. We officially apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. The aforementioned former partner has illegally stolen the client list for Webmanix Hosting and we are seeking legal counsel in this matter. We at Webmanix Hosting strive to keep all our clients contact information in the strictest of confidence. We will pursue this recent action by our former partner to the fullest extent of the law.



We ask that any of you who received this illegal Spam from our former partner to please forward it to us, with your thoughts on the matter, if you still have it. If you do not have it we request that you send us your comments so we may build a stronger case for this reprehensible action taken by our former partner. This type of behavior will not be tolerated.



Thank you for your continued support of Webmanix Hosting. We strive to give you the best in customer support and order turn around times in the business. Thank you as well for allowing us to serve you. We look forward to a long relationship with you.



Thank you,



Keith Linden, CEO Webmanix Hosting

Pamela Vincent, CFO Webmanix Hosting




SteveD3

He's done his advertising ;)

He's apologized, i must admit that, I got an email from rescuehosting explaining the issue

but, Brian, your recent post made me say this:
Brian,
I know, "you don't respond to this thread" more than once, but sure you read this: don't treat us like rabbits, all right. WMH may not have legal grounds but 'legal' thing is not what runs your business... WE DO... your customers... here, at webhostingtalk or anywhere else. don't treat us like that. we deserve better than single 'has-to-be-spam-but-not' incident nor we deserve 'unlimited' (god forbids;))

Let's be honest, let's be simple

A.

I got an email too.. I wonder why he is useing a webmanix email account though. When he left wouldnt that have been taken off line?

Also as for :
"..... WMH has no legal grounds to seek any council against myself or Rescue Hosting since the list was created under legal circumstances. Over the last 2 years while I created Webmanix Hosting for Keith I had interacted with all of the WMH Customers at one point or another providing sales, support and sometimes scripting assistance. The List that was on my computer was result of the work that I had put in for all customers and WMH, When I left WMH for reasons that I will not state and have not stated Most files were deleted on my computer, unfortunately there was a list remaining. SO there are no illegal conceptions here that Keith and WMH can prove nor use....... "

Thats not what I was told, I checked :D .



SteveD3
Who's On First? Right, Who's On First? *Smack* No Im Telling You WHO's On First!!

Yes I too received the emails from both rescue and webmanix.

I can't say for sure what I believe, brians email was apologetic and professional but hey i'm a dubious kinda guy when things like this happen.

I want to take a moment and apologize to you and everyone that received an Email from me last eve in regards to a hosting offer.

As I have just became aware of which Email list I had used to send the promotion to, I wanted to take time and apologize.

As I manage many lists and many communities I had went to send the Email last night and didn't pay attention nor realize that I still had my Webmanix Customer list installed on the Email program. The Email was meant to go to my subscribed group of users on one of my large domains.

Since Keith of Webmanix Hosting has taken time to send you all an Email today regarding him seeking council I will take a small moment and respond to this.:

Regarding Keith's comment "we are seeking legal counsel in this matter" WMH has no legal grounds to seek any council against myself or Rescue Hosting since the list was created under legal circumstances. Over the last 2 years while I created Webmanix Hosting for Keith I had interacted with all of the WMH Customers at one point or another providing sales, support and sometimes scripting assistance. The List that was on my computer was result of the work that I had put in for all customers and WMH, When I left WMH for reasons that I will not state and have not stated Most files were deleted on my computer, unfortunately there was a list remaining. SO there are no illegal conceptions here that Keith and WMH can prove nor use.

I am sure Keith and WMH is going through some hard times as it is evident by what has transpired at the web site of WMH. He is most likely under a lot of stress as I have tried to point out to some customers that have posed on his web site. Its hard to run a hosting company with such low prices and go through what he does on a day to day basis.

It is unfortunate that he has to go to such extremes to show his true loyalty to his customers. I only wish this had been true when I had to leave WMH.

I welcome any comments, or flames in which you can send an Email to bbaldwin@webmanixhosting.com
I have never been untruthful in any matter regarding hosting, WMH or in personal life as many customers of WMH can attest to.

Take care and good luck all.

I got this today as a PM why he chose to PM me I have no idea but I feel everyone should see his little bit of information he choose to share with me.

-------Begin PM ------------

Thanks for the Info
Since I said I was going to let you all bash away after the post I meant, I had to laugh at your reply.

Unfortunatly your reply is yet one of the reasons I no longer provide services to Keith and Webmanix.

His relentless lies to his customers are just too tiring.

Lets put it this way so that you might understand it most.

regarding his letter
1. Since any list I had was created under Webmanix, the hosting that I created for Keith

See the fact will always be that you may not be aware of is that for 2 years I managed WMH, I sold the accounts for WMH and I ran the servers for WMH, I built the web site for WMH, I built the support area's for WMH. The only thing Keith has over WMH is a license that I would never sign because I didnt trust him any more.

2. He has threghtened to sue people before to put the fear of God into them.... He doesnt have $100 in his checking account o even see a lawyer yet actually take action on something that he couldn't uphold.

But see, I dont really care, 3 people bitching and screaming only bring me more and more traffic. I have sold over 20 accounts today thanks to you and your posts... So I welcome more.

Take care and thanks


--------- END PM ----------------

Steve, that PM message was a personal message to you as I had promised not to come back and reply to this thread as there are many that would like to egg on issues (hmmm, your name is comming to mind)

The message was to give you a little information regarding an ealier post that you made, that was all.... Now you cant say that I tried to egg something on since you made the post.

Sorry guys he pushed me to make a response on the thread once more... So I made sure that this message stayed nuetural.


Thanks

Originally posted by k9brian
Steve, that PM message was a personal message to you as I had promised not to come back .....(hmmm, your name is comming to mind)
The message was to give you a little information regarding an ealier post that you made, that was all....


Hey pal,

I can give a rats ass,

You spammed me I HATE spammers.

Anything you send me will become public information. Why would I do this? Why the hell not. I have no reason to be kind and nice to you and keep anything you say to me privite, besides you never said I couldnt tell what you said in the PM and sence the tone of all my posts have been aginst you or your methods of business you should have know I would post the PM.


SteveD3

Well Steve.... Tell us how you really feel. :rolleyes:

The PM that I sent you doesnt hurt me one bit... I just felt that it be nice to not bash your hosting company by lettign the truth be told to everyone.

But if thats what you wanted to do I say go for it. As long as its not me who did it.

To put the record straight, I have not bashed rescue/webmanix or whatever. Thought I know from my use that Webmanix are not the best of hosts I have been with.

There is no need to be so obnoxious about it Brian, let alone childish. This thread was simply acknowledging the fact that more than one person receive Spam from Rescuehosting. That is the bottom line, I believe this was a plan to steal webmanixhosting's customers - in which case you might have done well.

I would never trust someone like you. If I had done what you did, even by accident I would be sincerly apologetic and not look like I am a total prik. :rolleyes:


I apologise for the use of foul language it just seems that these scamhosts seem two-a-penny these days and With the broken promises it gives us, quality hosts a bad name.