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michele
04-28-2002, 11:22 PM
Hi,

I cannot seem to find any webhosting company that offers someone to install or run java programs... java servlets or jsp... for a cheap price... Im looking for hosting for $15 or less.... Anybody has any recommendations....? Thanks

HostInspect
04-29-2002, 12:25 AM
We offer this at eryxma.com , but well we won't offer this after this month.

We have seen that JAVA/Tomcat JSP/XML/JDK take way too much server resources that just hogs it down and performance goes slow for it.

I would recommend on finding a host with high end performance servers like the ones we use, like at least XP 1800, 2.5 GB RAM.. Java loves memory and make sure they dont have Tomcat 4.0, big memory leak on that one.

gwh
04-29-2002, 07:41 AM
If you sign up for Assorted Internet's cheapest package $4.99 I think you can upgrade to JSP/servlet support for $9.99. Adds up to $14.98/month.



http://www.assortedinternet.com/hosting/economy-virtual.jsp

http://www.assortedinternet.com/hosting/web-hosting-upgrade-packages.jsp

(bottom of page)

NinthSwat
04-29-2002, 07:54 AM
You can view a list JSP hosting providers at:
http://www.jspinsider.com/services/hosting.view

MotleyFool
04-29-2002, 08:04 AM
Selvaraj.Com

He has developed/developing control panels on Java so he must know what he is talking about methinks

Cheers
Balaji

MotleyFool
04-29-2002, 08:06 AM
NinthSwat,

Before Chicken and his brood of post-busters come around, remove your post.

You cant advertise your self

Cheers
Balaji

NinthSwat
04-30-2002, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by MotleyFool
NinthSwat,

Before Chicken and his brood of post-busters come around, remove your post.

You cant advertise your self

Cheers
Balaji
Ok, sorry. I removed it.

mybiz
04-30-2002, 11:03 AM
Java hosting is a different animal. If you find a host that offers it for under $15 they will be something wrong with them. There is no way they can afford to offer you decent service for that price because there is so much investment in the hardware and sysadmins.

Jedito
04-30-2002, 11:03 AM
JSP/Servlets and cheap prices doesn't come together :)

Any engine that serve JSP/Servlets its a resource hog, and we (host) have to cover us. I mean, its not the same host 200 sites html/php/mysql than 200 JSP/Servlets, you surelly can't put 200 sites using jsp/servlets in the same server.
Doesn't matther which engine do you use, we use Tomcat, what's true its a resources hog, but I saw the resources used for Resin and doesn't vary too much

bteeter
04-30-2002, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by mybiz
Java hosting is a different animal. If you find a host that offers it for under $15 they will be something wrong with them. There is no way they can afford to offer you decent service for that price because there is so much investment in the hardware and sysadmins.

Actually, as was pointed out above, you can purchase a plan and add on JSP/Servlet support through us for under $15. And, there is nothing wrong with us. In fact, we do quite a good job of running JSP/Servlet services. So good in fact, we built our corporate site, affiliate program, reseller program, and backend administrative systems to run on JSP. (As well as many of our other sites as well.)

To get our larger (read more space/data transfer) JSP packages, you do have to pay more. Which again, I think is quite justifiable based on the admin time required for setup, and the resources used by JSP's.

Low prices don't always mean bad service. If you actually looked at what we are offering at the $15 price point I think you would agree it is quite reasonable.

Take care,

Brian

mybiz
04-30-2002, 07:42 PM
Brian,

Ok if you are so cheap, then how do you afford the memory? How much memory does a server have?

If I deploy my application on your servers will it get cut off if it uses too much memory...

What about security? Do you offer shared JVM? What about if a user wants to write files with his JSP/servlet, do you have java security policies? Do you debug their application if it doesn't work?

should I continue? and all for $15/month?

bteeter
04-30-2002, 10:13 PM
I expected that this would get nasty. Here goes:

Originally posted by mybiz
Brian,

Ok if you are so cheap, then how do you afford the memory? How much memory does a server have?



512 MB RAM per server

Being that we have at most 10 JSP/Servlet accounts on our servers at any one time, and that we have at most 75 accounts on any server. (In actuallity, our most heavily loaded server has 62 accounts and 4 JSP enabled accounts. )

512 MB of RAM is plenty.

If you'd actually read our site to see what it is your flaming, you would quickly realize that for less than $15 a month, you only get 30 MB of space and 750 MB of data transfer (Economy 30 Plan + JSP/Servlet Add on). Its plenty for a small site, with minimal processing needs. (CS Students, Smal businesses hobby sites, etc.) Unless your doing some super serious data processing, you'll use up all of your 750 MB of data transfer before the server even feels it.

(On that note, we have backend JSP pages that we use for accounting and traffic tracking that execute thousands of SQL queries and an equal number of Java class instances to represent the data. The pages load in a second or two, anytime, even when the server is under high load periods.)

[i]

If I deploy my application on your servers will it get cut off if it uses too much memory...

What about security? Do you offer shared JVM? What about if a user wants to write files with his JSP/servlet, do you have java security policies? Do you debug their application if it doesn't work?

should I continue? and all for $15/month? [/B]

What are you deploying that it would take so much memory? We've got folks deploying some pretty serious sites on our JSP/Servlet engines. No memory problems here.

If your using Java to run background processes - that's different and against our AUP. But we've never had a problem with JSP's. Unless someone is actually trying to bring down the JVM by writing code to do so, I don't think we'd have a problem.

And no, we don't provide application support. If your stuff doesn't work, and our Tomcat server is running - its your problem. I'd be happy to make extra arrangements to fix users problems at an hourly rate of $125. I've had to tell customers that, and it doesn't make them too happy, but the bottom line is we are offering hosting here. We keep the railroad running. We don't code your site for you - unless you setup a seperate professional services contract.

Take care,

Brian