Hey all

I'm thinking of setting up some dedicated machines in Sweden and renting them to US customers. My problem is the speed, will it be enough?

If you like you can ping 213.113.66.252.

Thanks

Your latency is OK from my servers in Spain: 60 ms

NYC Server on Ezzi.net network: 120 ms (that's less than the 125ms I get from that server to my Spanish network...)

FL server at Dialtone.com : 160 ms ... Not good enough, but its OK for most applications...

From a RackShack Server: 160 ms. OK

Your network latency is OK in Sweden...but what kind of provider do you have? I can see that your IP is from some residential Broadband provider ... : www.bredband.com . It seems to be like the US Cogent: high bandwidth on Ethernet Link at low cost...

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Gorka Valencia

Hello Jarguar, thanks for pinging...

The network I'm connected to is a big swedish broadband provider,Bredbandsbolaget.
Their network is very fast in Sweden, and they are cheap too. I haven't got much experience from cogent but they may be pretty much like Bredbandsbolaget.
Anyway, do you think it will do for HTML applications and images?

Um... they peer with KPNQwest ... I think they will be able to provide a good service quality as long as they do not overload that peers ... It seems they have multiple peers with KPN on different locations, but no other peering agreement than KPN ¿? Very odd, I will investigate it a bit...

The pings are good, but too many hops on target network... The packets seem to pass from one Network Interface to another on the same router ... :eek:

Yeap... It will work for non mission critical applications (web, public FTP, etc...). Ethernet has no real QoS definition. But, do not worry, it will work for Internet web content distribution, as long as they do not overload their network, and their peering with KPN.

The IP address you provide have no HTTP or FTP services running, so I can't test your download qualitty. Could you please run a web server with a 50 kb plain HTML page? I can test your downloading, if you want to ... :-)

Bye!!
:wavey:

P.S. Could you please send me some impressions about my network in Spain? just ping 194.153.101.65 :-)

Hey
You can try to download a demo of MaxPayne from
http://piraten.d2g.com:2180/content/fgdcom/MaxPayneDemo.exe
(it's the same server)

This is what I get from your Spanish server:

Svar från 194.153.101.65: byte=32 tid=60ms TTL=232
Svar från 194.153.101.65: byte=32 tid=59ms TTL=232
Svar från 194.153.101.65: byte=32 tid=60ms TTL=232
Svar från 194.153.101.65: byte=32 tid=59ms TTL=232

Thanks for investigating all this :)

I'll be gone for some days, so I may not reply here within 2-3 days.

/David

DavidC, the download of the Max Payne demo went at 300 kb/s.
I live in Belgium and I'm on cable.

This is my average download speed, so not bad at all :)

simple question.
are you choosing Sweden as your outpost because of the laws ?

or is there another reason.

becasue even though a company has there servers in sweden, does not mean that USA firms can host there content there and avoid certain USA laws.

also note that the main registra for .COM is an american firm and can be subject to court orders, weird but there is 1 or 2 cases pending in federal court about this.

just passing the info.

mike

p.s. I like your idea but I could not do it.

I know the provider you use. A friend of mine in Stockholm is running a warez-ftp on a 100mbit connection, taking advantage of the fact that they ar not YET monitoring and capping connections.

Don't be fooled: BredBand is a client ISP. Means that you can use them to connect to the internet for your personal surfing needs but nothing more! Also you will have many problems even if this was not so as they have dynamic IP and you have to use services like dns2go.com etc.

I don't mean to be discuraging but unfortunately the only way to get low bandwith prices are in the US. Not even Canada which is next to them can keep up.

Originally posted by ADEhost
also note that the main registra for .COM is an american firm and can be subject to court orders, weird but there is 1 or 2 cases pending in federal court about this.


I'm sorry but I do not quite understand... Please explain it a little but futher.

Originally posted by ShareFile

Don't be fooled: BredBand is a client ISP. Means that you can use them to connect to the internet for your personal surfing needs but nothing more! Also you will have many problems even if this was not so as they have dynamic IP and you have to use services like dns2go.com etc.

I don't mean to be discuraging but unfortunately the only way to get low bandwith prices are in the US. Not even Canada which is next to them can keep up.

Hello!

I know that BBB (BredBandsBolaget) is a client ISP... But I'm not going to set up any commercial servers on ther network without their authorization. I've been talking to them and they are soon to provide businesses (like mine) with some pretty cheap bandwidth. ;) The dynamic ip thing will probably also be solved when they launch their business services.

Bye! :)

Originally posted by DavidC


I'm sorry but I do not quite understand... Please explain it a little but futher.

Oh sorry, let me explain: background music please


1) domains names are not property ( US district court May 2000 )
I do not know if this has been overturned. but basically since it's not property, it can not be stolen. look at the problems the guy from sex.com had. i believe that it ended up being solved as fraud.

2) Verisign whom run the registrar for the .COM, they are a USA company. Currently there are court cases pending if the government can force them to kill off a domain. under current understandings I'm sure they can. Verisign Global Registry Services is a US based firm and they could be subject to court orders.

I myself am looking for and ICANN accredited registrar that is not in the USA. this way if I have to deal with " property laws of my domain" I can apply the rules specific to the registrar's country ( where it is considered property). given I still have to deal with Verisign, but I don't have to deal with the registrar in the states

Mike

Originally posted by ADEhost


Oh sorry, let me explain: background music please


1) domains names are not property ( US district court May 2000 )
I do not know if this has been overturned. but basically since it's not property, it can not be stolen. look at the problems the guy from sex.com had. i believe that it ended up being solved as fraud.

2) Verisign whom run the registrar for the .COM, they are a USA company. Currently there are court cases pending if the government can force them to kill off a domain. under current understandings I'm sure they can. Verisign Global Registry Services is a US based firm and they could be subject to court orders.

I myself am looking for and ICANN accredited registrar that is not in the USA. this way if I have to deal with " property laws of my domain" I can apply the rules specific to the registrar's country ( where it is considered property). given I still have to deal with Verisign, but I don't have to deal with the registrar in the states

Mike

You mean I will lost my .com if the U.S. government wants it? Even if my .com are not registered nor hosted in U.S.?

That mean .com .net are just another U.S. country extension? :angry: :angry:

Originally posted by 1q1q1q


You mean I will lost my .com if the U.S. government wants it? Even if my .com are not registered nor hosted in U.S.?

That mean .com .net are just another U.S. country extension? :angry: :angry:

Well to be truthful, not sure about it being lost. but let's say in a legal battle your "property" is protected better in certain forgien registrars. As for the .com extention, the firm that runs it is a US Company, subject to that national rules and regulation. the matter is up in debate in the courts, and the outcome has not been decieded ( then again it could have been, but I don't know the results). as for .net and .org I don't know whom the registrars are so I don't know the answer. but I do know that within the last 3 years someone tried ( and could have, don't know ) pass a law requiring that the .org extention be non-profits only.

now let me drag out this domain topic a slight bit more.

from my understanding of french and german law. the symbols of nazism and other things related to the axis powers are forbidden. I'm not sure how much. But I do recall that there was an arguement about free speach, French govenment, Yahoo and nazi's goods or web sites. The french government wanted yahoo to filter the sites so that french people could not get to them. I can not recall the outcome.

Now extend this out a bit. say I want Nazi.com.fr will they let me or do I have any right's ....

Mike