Last night my server went un-reachable so I tried to see if vdi.net was up and it was gone to.. Well it went up and down like a yo-yo then came back until today then it went down and came back a while later...

This has to be a problem at VDI's center because my server wasnt the only one not reachable.
Anyone know whats up?

I've noticed some intermittent problems over the past couple of weeks. Never lasts longer than 3-5 minutes. Traceroutes show that it that it goes down right at vdi's router.

[Edited by tabernack on 01-14-2001 at 09:27 AM]

You have to hate those nasty network floods.

Originally posted by Jag
You have to hate those nasty network floods.

Are you sure it was a flood?

thats what Im told.

They seem to be getting these floods a lot, wouldnt you say?

Yep! Might just be an excuse (I hope not) :)

Excuse for what?

i think its a directed attack towards a particular host/site there.

hmmmm.... oh ok.. well I think they shouldnt host that site anymore.. just to make sure its just that site.. Why dun they take any legal action against the guys doing it?? It wouldnt be very tuff to track them down.

I'll ask Bill about it.

Originally posted by kunal
Excuse for what?

Could be other technical issues. It's just too easy to say "it was a dos attack against a particular site". Especially when it happens this often.

Yea.. true.. though I sure wanna know what issues.. hmm.. i guess ill ask bill too..

hmmm.. the plot thickens...

How do you know about this though? Who did you hear this from?

There you go...I think this post is hosted at
vdi and not ultraspeedusa, because it was down for the
whole time of the flood.

That is why now days, SLA's are important because
it put pressure back on the providers to provide
higher level of service.

Tony

Ah.. oh ok.. keep us posted on anything else you hear :)

CPanel hasn't been spun off by VDI, http://www.vdi.net/informational.html

WHT is hosted at UltraSpeed which in turn co-locate with VDI.

As you say the plot thickens and their is a lot more to all of this than most people realise.

It's getting weirder, not thicker!

IF there is some sort of pirate thing going on, where did Daniel from UltraspeedUSA get the press release from? I highly doubt he is a conspirator.

Thats informational seemed too vegue as well. It says there are going to be no changes in service quality basically, but it doesn't explicitly say, We own Cpanel3/WHM, this individual is trying to commit fraud, Cpanel3/WHM is here to stay.

WHat was so hard in saying that? I am not saying I feel this way, but beating around the bush, or leaving such an impression with the information will lead people to believe you are hiding something.

posting the whois to present clues for us detective type people,:

"Singluar Wind (template COCO-873099)
info@singularwind.com
107 Second St.
Allenenton, Wisconsin 53002 US

Domain Name: singularwind.com
Status: production

Admin Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Singluar Wind (COCO-873099) info@singularwind.com
262 629 007

CORE Registrar: CORE-11

Record last modified: 2000-12-19 09:04:50 UTC by CORE-11
Record created: 2000-12-19 08:49:40 UTC by CORE-11
Record expires: 2001-12-19 02:54:20 UTC
"

VDI, did anything in particular happen on the 19th of december? Such as an employee firing, or anything?

Furthermore, how does Carlos, a developer of Cpanel3. Not know anything about this issue as is apparent in previous posts.

[Edited by mysitehost on 01-15-2001 at 01:32 PM]

Ultraspeed is still at VDI, yes we have servers at level3 but we also still use VDI.

[Edited by Paul L. on 01-15-2001 at 01:45 PM]

I think the best thing is to wait and see what happens. The reason for the non-clarity (excuse my slang), is that VDI does not want to lose cpanel and is investigating the legalities of the move of cpanel to SingularWind. Until all this is worked out we can expect more speculation, rumours and half truths. Let's wait and see. :)

Yups.. lets wait and see.. you never know what might happen.. hmmmm

I've set up a restricted forum to discuss the Cpanel fiasco at:

http://webfors.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?forum=12

If anyone is interested. Just register then send an email to eric@webfors.com requesting access, and I will send you the password to access the forum. Might be better than going on about it in public view.

[Edited by tabernack on 01-15-2001 at 02:59 PM]

This is not only getting weird, but ugly too. My blood pressure is rising. :D

Ok, I turn my back and look how many rumors and conspiracy theories are already posted here

VDI is not having Financial problems, or running the network at the loads that have been suggested here, if anybody have a doubt about what's going on, please contact noc@vdi.net with your questions and concerns.

just chill out everybody, and don't let your imaginations run wild.

PS - I was not going to post this but .. a certain host seems to have started a series of rumors that VDI was having financial problem, in order to hide their own financial problems, now I won't disclosure anybody here, but during the next couple of days, if things don't get solved, everybody will see who really got the plug.
Some people should shut up and not instigate certain behaviors, don't do to the others what you don't what done you .. just because it's happening to you.

have said that, I feel better, and would like to reassure everybody that nothing (besides the cpanel misunderstandings) is going on at VDI :)

Furthermore, how does Carlos, a developer of Cpanel3. Not know anything about this issue as is apparent in previous posts.

than is a excellent question Adam .. let me put it this way, we where all taken by suprise by this Cpanel mess .. all the way to the top

it's very sad when people you work with do this, we all thought we where part of a team, and in the end that team concept was meaningless to some people :(

Actually, I feel I owe an apology having posted what I did -- I should not have put up an unsubstantiated rumour, especially given that I might have done some damage.

I honestly did not intend to cause problems for anyone.

(For those of you just tuning in, I posted something I had heard that was not too flattering to VDI, and I am busy nursing my foot, healing the bite wounds I inflicted on myself ;))


[Edited by Tarin on 01-15-2001 at 06:44 PM]

Yeah it is sad when things like this happen. I saw this happen with a few banner networks a while back.

A lead programmer got canned out of the blue (was my friend until this point) then he thought he'd retaliate and steal the software as if they owed it to him. Against my warning, he did it anyways and now you have doubleclick.

moral of the story? None, son of a bitch got clean off and is now in a multi million dollar setup owning tons of stock of doublclick.

Actually, the moral of the story is, dont let these guys steal anything, even though you may feel you wont, don't let them at all. Otherwise that may happen to you guys.

Doubleclick didn't exactly come from him, but a huge part of his software is used in the DART system. Doubleclick is like banner network Super Conglamorate. They either own you, or you sublet banners through them to sell to your members.

Also, this is Jason too :-)

VDI has been getting heavily attacked the past couple of weeks, I've been able to fight off some of these attacks with the help of our upstreams, but other times, no luck.

1) A client of a VDI client was hosting a site depicting pictures of animal cruelty, the site was attacked all day, I disconnected the server at approximately 4PM when I discovered the site's contents, but VDI continued to get attacked over the next few days (thankfully, there were no outages)

2) A heavy SYN flood was detected about 10am Tuesday by myself directed toward another VDI client, but with the help of our upstreams, the problem was resolved in approximately 9 minutes.

3) A spoofed network attack is very hard to track down, without the cooperation of each network involved in the attack (whether they be the originating source, or a peer/transit provider merely passing the traffic along). Nowadays, ISPs are encouraged to do inbound and outbound filtering to stop such attacks, some ISPs do, some ISPs don't, the weakest link of a chain isn't too helpful, especially when you apply that 'logic' to the Internet.

Yes, there have been network issues but I and the rest of the Network Operations team do our best to resolve any issues we encounter or are brought up to our attention.

hmmm.. how are you related to VDI? just wondering.. And thanx for providing the information. :)

He works there :)

ah.. oh ok..