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Gopher
01-13-2001, 04:40 AM
How do I submit my site to the search engines out there ?. I have included the <meta> tags of DESCRIPTION & KEYWORDS.
What else do I do, or will search engines slowly find my page ? can I speed it up ?

Thanks,
Stephen.

SI-Chris
01-13-2001, 06:42 AM
1) You can visit each search engine (AltaVista, Excite, Google, etc.) and click their respective "Submit Your Site" links
2) You can submit to the "top 10" search engines all at once at http://www.submitplus.com (there're probably other free sites out there that may provide a more comprehensive submission, that's the only one I can think of off hand)
3) Buy a program like AddWeb (http://www.addweb.com) or WebPosition Gold (http://www.webpositiongold.com)

Two sites that are "must visit" for learning about search engines are http://www.searchenginewatch.com and http://www.spider-food.net.

My best advice: The most important search engine in the world is Yahoo! Read everything you can about them before you submit your site; they're very picky, but in my experience they generate more traffic than all other search engines combined.

sharkman
01-13-2001, 12:35 PM
If you want to make it to the top of search engines, do get add web. You should do it manually. There's many sites that make you life easier by placing all the links to major search engine on one page. If you want to make it up somewhere on the search engine, grab a book or an article but you shouldn't go with these multi search engine programins.

etLux
01-13-2001, 07:42 PM
IMHO -- and this IS just my opinion, I note -- I have never yet seen an autosubmitter that seemed to actually do anything... and I've tried dozens of them.

Why this is, I honestly don't know. The only time I seem to get decent results is when I go to the s/e site itself, and sit there and plunk it in by hand.

Wazeh
01-13-2001, 07:54 PM
This URL will submit your site to 50 search engines
http://www.rightsubmit.com/list.htm

Duster
01-13-2001, 08:32 PM
I'm with etLux on this one. Those submission programs seem a waste of time (and money if you bought one). I just spent some time yesterday with a customer who purchased AddWeb and it failed to produce any results. I gave her advice on getting listed and coming up early in the listings.

Note that Yahoo is now charging $199 for business listings in their directory. They have yet to make a profit and I suspect this change is one of the results and an effort to change that.

This link http://websnapshot.mycomputer.com/searchengines.html shows the search engines in descending order of usage, which is essentially the same as importance.

There aren't so many search engines that one can't submit individually to each one, at least the majors. Personally, I don't bother with the ones below about 1.5%

For anyone wanting to appear in search engines, I would advise adding appropriate and specific meta tags, creating a BS free description of the site, and submit it to Netscape's Open Directory Project (at dmoz.org). It is a human edited directory, similar to Yahoo, only with volunteer editors.

I was an editor for them in the past and as much as I despise those arrogant, abusive higher level editors of questionable parentage and mental health, I realize that many top search engines use their listings as a base. Being listed with them may mean inclusion on most of the major search engines and directories.

For both Yahoo and dmoz, and a good idea in general, it is imperative that you have a clear cut statement about the site and leave out the hyperbole. Claims of being the biggest, the best, having the lowest prices, and similar BS (Bloated Statements) not only do not say anything of value, but they are sure to get yous site excluded from being listed.

lalaweb
01-14-2001, 03:32 AM
Another effective way of placing high-up on search engines is the pay-per-click method. There are search engines, like go2.com, that will allow you to bid for your placement. Bidding starts at $0.01 per click, and you literally bid for the keywords which best describes your web site. You can bid for 1st placement, 2nd placement, and so on and so forth. Take a look at go2.com for a good example. Do a common search query, and take a look at the search result. You'll see the amount people have bid for their placement. When you click on their link, they pay for that click. It's quite an effective form of targeted advertisement. Although I'm not sure of the click-through ratio, I know that it's significantly higher than your standard banner advertisement (0.06%).


Regards,

Penny Ortega

fweikeong
01-14-2001, 04:08 AM
Just my 0.02 cents.

Do it the hard way, submit manually to major search engines/indexes. A must to :-

1.Yahoo
2.dmoz.org
3.looksmart
4.directhit

These indexes are becoming more important as majority of the major indexes are using their database as search results.

Search engines rank your site by comparing popularity of your site among the sites in their database, which means how many sites actually place a your link on their html pages, the more other sites link to you, the higher your ranking will be.

If you can afford to pay, bid on goto.com may drive some traffic to your site, go for the 1-6 place on the list, these will gain you more exposure cause indexes like AOL, MSN and a few other has an arrangement with goto.com to list sites at the goto.com top placing on their searche results.


Of course, most of all, format your site properly and makesuer it is presentable before submission.

mybiz
01-14-2001, 05:44 PM
Try going to http://www.jimtools.com

They have a pretty good submission tool to SE's, and other directorys..

Farnsworth & Thomas
01-16-2001, 09:51 AM
We have quite a bit of information on this and other topics. Take a look at our "How To Guides for Webmasters"

http://www.ez2ba.com/guides

specifically there are two that you may wish to look at. The one for Search Engines and the other is for Advertising And Marketing.

Good Luck

klisis
01-16-2001, 12:28 PM
It took me an entire one year to get my site listed on YAHOO. When I just submitted my site to Yahoo, I remember one of their staff said my site seems to be unstable which I think they ment "I think your site could be gone anytime soon.". so I forgot about them. Then a few months ago,from web Statistics, I began to notice incoming traffic from yahoo. My site was listed, about time I say although Yahoo seemed to rewrite the description of my site on their own.

fweikeong
01-16-2001, 01:34 PM
One year to get listed ! ..Yahoo probably was testing on you to see if you really are a sustainable company before listing you on them.... They just don't want you to put a black mark on their good name...LOL

:D

etLux
01-16-2001, 01:49 PM
Undoubtedly true, Foong. Any site that lists five hundred pages of search results for blow-up women and, um, male organ enlargers must take great care with their good name.

I, of course, know only of these things after doing a search for them at the request of a friend, you understand...

fweikeong
01-16-2001, 02:01 PM
Probably those Yahoo people has been spending all of their time on 'reviewing' those sites, no time for klisis's...

Seven
01-16-2001, 02:32 PM
Some spider type search engines don't go many levels from your home page. Adding a site map from your home page will get all your pages in the search engine.

I get far more search engine referrals from Yahoo and Google than from anyone else. I think you should focus your efforts to get ranks high in these two search engines.

klisis
01-16-2001, 05:04 PM
But hey, it was worth it. Yahoo drives some traffic. Some search engines won't give any traffic at all..

Spider John
01-16-2001, 11:47 PM
The easy to get on to Yahoo! is to submit your site both to them and to an engine called Google (http://www.google.com). Why Google you ask? Because Yahoo! purchases results on various searches from Google rather than using their own human editors. In other words, if you rank highly for a particular word/phrase on Google, you will find yourself listed on Yahoo! I had a comedy site where I was listed on Yahoo! but never bothered to submit to them using this technique.

Remember....SHHHHHH on this. It's TOP SECRET (that's why I'm posting it to a public board. :)

klisis
01-17-2001, 12:23 AM
Remember....SHHHHHH on this. It's TOP SECRET (that's why I'm posting it to a public board. :)

Oh? *looks lost*

fweikeong
01-17-2001, 02:30 AM
Hey, guys, tell you what, I am about to disclose the secret of the TOP SECRET, gogle uses the index from dmoz.org, a human edited index. DON'T TELL ANYONE I TOLD YOU THIS !!

:D

etLux
01-17-2001, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by fweikeong
DON'T TELL ANYONE I TOLD YOU THIS !!:D

Quoted from a submission to DMOZ.org:

"Once your site has been accepted into the Open Directory, it may take anywhere from 2 weeks to several months for your site to be listed on partner sites which use the Open Directory data, such as AOL Search, AltaVista, HotBot, Google, Lycos, Netscape Search, etc. We make updates of the data available weekly, but each partner has their own update schedule."

Although patience is needed for this to kick over, it's well worth getting your site listed here.



[Edited by etLux on 01-17-2001 at 02:40 AM]

fweikeong
01-17-2001, 03:38 AM
Yeah..Patience is the word, or a $199 might speed things up a little...:D


"Use Yahoo!'s Business Express program. The program includes:
-Expedited consideration of your commercial web site for inclusion in the Yahoo! directory.
-Guaranteed site review within 7 business days.
-A one-time, non-refundable processing fee of $199.00 USD. "

Spider John
01-17-2001, 09:22 PM
Come on come on...KNEEL BEFORE THE MONEY!
Come on come on...LISTEN TO THE MONEY TALK!