I have a template which is very 'techy' in style, and would be suitable for any host who wishes to display this 'hi-tech' look and feel to their customers.

Please direct your bids to gavin@platinumwebsitedesign.com within two weeks.

(If the bidding does not reach the pre-defined limit, the template may be withheld...)

Template Can Be viewed here (http://platinum.oreosnbeer.com/somthinghost.jpg).

Thanks,
Gavin :)

Current Bid: (no bids as yet)
* Starting bids at $150.00 USD

That a link or attachment would be helpful in determining whether we want to purchase your template?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by platinum

(If the bidding does not reach the pre-defined limit, the template may be withheld...)

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Why dont you give us a minimum bid + a link to the template

No one will bid anything unless they know what they are bidding for ;)

Terribly sorry guys, thanks for letting me know :)
I've updated the origional post....

I don't know about that image at the top in the center. For one thing it is blurry and it also is very distracting. I was trying to read the page but I found myself looking at whatever that is. Andyc

I'm quite prepared to work on it a little more to suit the needs of the host that uses it, the title, etc will need to be changed anyway. :)

To be honest I don't think you will get $150 for it. I have seen a lot of people selling templates on here and seldom do they go for over $75-$100 unless they are really awesome. My want to reconsider your bid.

Okay, thanks, but I dont think i'd bother selling a template for that price -just to let you know, this was one of the better liked entries in a contest for $600USD... (you can make an offer if you like and I may consider it later on) but otherwise.... :)

Originally posted by Andyc
To be honest I don't think you will get $150 for it. I have seen a lot of people selling templates on here and seldom do they go for over $75-$100 unless they are really awesome. My want to reconsider your bid.

Agreed.

Platinum, if you're telling me that that template is worth at least $150 - then you're also telling me that I could make about $50 per hour if I wanted to :)

Think about what I just said... (>'.')>

EDIT: And the fact that you spelt SomEthing wrong kind of makes me not want to take you, or that template, seriously O_o

Okay, point taken... You guys don't like it.
(i'm not too fussed about the spelling, since the name would change anyway unless you own somthing host ... :p)

i'm not going to argue with you about whether it is good or not...
I did think it was quite a reasonable design, but obviously you're the potential buyers and since you guys dont like it and anyone reading this thread is going to be put off buying it, I presume it is not what a host is looking for...

I have had similar discussions many times, if your spending hours designing one template for $50 you really are wasting your time, (granted, you may just be doing it for a little extra money that you otherwise wouldn't have) but you might as well go work at your local mcdonalds. :)

Just to see what happens I may offer another design later on, I may just sit back and watch what other designers are offering here for a little while first...

Just as a side note, are you hosts really making so little money that you can't afford much over $75 for a template that is likly to be the 'user-end' main money making attribute of your site? Hostrocket paid somthing like $40,000 for their design, it looks great but is it worth all that extra.... mmm, it must be :)

Thanks for not being too rude about it anyway...

Nobody will pay over $75 as long as there are quality templates at that price. Some of the ones I have seen hear beat a lot of professional sites, I've seen some amazing designs.

people are cheap here Gavin, that's why I rarely put a temp up for sale here...

James

Yeah, I gather :)

People are cheap here? No, however, competition is huge here. Especially considering this is a big place for first-time designers to start out. So they put their templates up here at VERY low prices. It's not about being cheap, it's about being competitive. Why spend $40,000 on a web site. when you can spend $3,000 on a designer that doesn't have a name for himself, that has just as much talent?

Personally I think the idea of spending that much is absurd. However, there have been sites here that have really impressed me and I'd probably pay what the designer was asking ($250 - $350). But calling members here "cheap" just because they don't think YOUR design is worth as much as YOU do is below the belt.

Sure I think MY company is worth $1,000,000 because of the time and effort I put into it, but do you think Verio would think the same thing? Probably not.

I'd say instead of making accusations, check around to see how much other designers on these forums are asking.

The money you put into a quality site design comes back to you several fold over - Your site is what sells your product. Getting a $40k site from a company like pixelbrick who provides more than a template, but a thought out user path through the site with logical navigation, content management backends, and site content shaping and planning is well worth it in the end if you can afford it. It was a wise investment on our part and we would do it again in a second.

-Brendan

I think that templates worth $300 or $400 would be good for a people who are willing to sell their templates, that IS probably a decent price to pay, however $50 is not.

HRbrendon:
Thanks for the input, I think you made a wise descision...

well said, I absolutely agree with your point

Originally posted by comphosting
...this is a big place for first-time designers to start out. So they put their templates up here at VERY low prices. It's not about being cheap, it's about being competitive. Why spend $40,000 on a web site. when you can spend $3,000 on a designer that doesn't have a name for himself, that has just as much talent?

Gavin has been designing for a long time, and the fact is, that those younger designers are just as good is only true in very few cases. Probably hundreds of people have looked at this design and most of them agree that it's great. If you don't like it, don't comment, and just let people who want it say they want it...

James

Allow me to revise my original statement about people here. What I mean to say is:

This place contains younger designers, who sell templates for less, therefor making buyers EXPECT lower prices, thus making it impossible for any experienced designers to get good business.

Oh, wait a minute, that's just sugar-coating the phrase 'people here are cheap'. What's the point to this whole conversation?

The fact is, that money doesn't just pay for design, it pays for service, again and again. You know what HostRocket got for their 40 grand, a tight design, and unbeatable service. Overall, if you pay $50 for a design, sure you'll get the design, but if you want a button or something, it's gonna be tough to get from the original artist. To quote a fellow artist, "you pay peanuts, you get monkeys".

James

Well said... :)
Seeya back in the trading post then :p

;)

Since when has it been wrong to comment on a design one way or another? So from now on I can only say GOOD things? I never once said that the design was bad, to tell the truth I thought it was very nice. My entire point was is that web site design has no EXACT value. It's all about what people are willing to pay.

Take for instance a 56 Chevy. The guy that owns it may think it's worth $10,000, but, if he puts it on the market for that much and the highest willing buyer says $7,500, guess what the car is worth?


This place contains younger designers, who sell templates for less, therefor making buyers EXPECT lower prices, thus making it impossible for any experienced designers to get good business.


Exactly, why pay for your "service" when another designer with just as much talent will do it for half as much? Just in case I want a button sometime in the future?

I've programmed for about 4 years now, and have nothing to show for it because of an agreement with the company I work for. I can't use ANY software I've developed for them as my own personal resume, so I work for much cheaper then the "industry average" rate so that I can make a better portfolio.

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My question is, why would a designer of such a high standard come to us "cheap" people? Honestly I would go to forums where people pay $700 for a template.
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Originally posted by comphosting
Honestly I would go to forums where people pay $700 for a template.
www.sitepointforums.com ;)

take a look in the trading post there, eh? although i will admit the 'large' offers dont come up like evey day or anything...

We actually have a comp. for $2500 worth of hosting going on at the moment ;)

Whilst some designers might sell stuff for one price, the market value is what decides it IMO, just check out www.elance.com for example, dont see many $50 templates around there... :)

Sorry if any of my posts were a bit over the top, I was getting frustrated a few times there... :)

I must agree with platinum and J. Pederson.

Paying a designer $50 for a template is like a host giving lifetime hosting for $5!!

And I must agree with Tom :)