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gnorthey00
04-20-2002, 06:42 PM
Since the start of New.net I've been a bit skeptical. New.net has been going against the industry standard by creating its own TLD's and selling them. How is it that they have managed to stay in business for so long? I have noticed their snicky installation with various programs, and everytime new.net sneaks on my machine I wipe it out.

How exactly is the New.net thing supposed to work? I don't suppose that if somebody held the name someone.mp3, I'd be able to email somebody@someone.mp3. Worse yet, how did they deal with the .BIZ thing, as I remember, they had .BIZ names before ICANN and ran into some troulbe. (maybe that's why they charge near $30 for registration)

DanielP
04-20-2002, 06:45 PM
Well, basically new.net has really no "authority" over those names. So I'd assume to keep true to their word they had to be very quick and buy up all the .biz domains that their customers had registered. Basically their a risk at best, and yes your correct, you'd probabbly not be able to email someone with a .mp3 address. Their around mostly because people don't understand what new.net is when they get a domain name with them, I've had to explain to several people why their domain didn't work.... :rolleyes:

I believe earthlink.net and a few other ISP's support them but unless you're on them your SOL (unless you actually want to download their plugin)

Also, if ICANN decided to launch .mp3 right now as a domain and take pre registrarions chances are you'd loose your domain.

Chicken
04-20-2002, 07:49 PM
I don't always like how someone is driving the car, however I don't stick my left foot out on the gas and grab the steering wheel. This isn't the best way to get to where you are going, even if no one knows exactly where they are going.

Akash
04-20-2002, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Chicken
I don't always like how someone is driving the car, however I don't stick my left foot out on the gas and grab the steering wheel. This isn't the best way to get to where you are going, even if no one knows exactly where they are going.

Say again:confused:

akashik
04-20-2002, 08:47 PM
*lol*

what Chicken means is, even though ICANN might not be doing the greatest of jobs with new domain names, starting your own way of doing it, even though is causes even more trouble, isn't the best solution

Greg Moore

Akash
04-20-2002, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by akashik
*lol*

what Chicken means is, even though ICANN might not be doing the greatest of jobs with new domain names, starting your own way of doing it, even though is causes even more trouble, isn't the best solution

Greg Moore

ahh....lol i get it now...;)

Why can't Chicken put it in simpler terms :rolleyes:

akashik
04-20-2002, 08:57 PM
well chicken-ese is a very difficult language to learn, full of odd adjectives and nouns. It takes many years reading it before it begins to show itself for the wisdom it trully is. He's not bad at english, but is known to fall back into pure chicken-ese every now and then, such as above. It's a cross we bear, and try to help him out whenever we can. Sadly since the nugget arrived he's slipping more often. I fear soon he may be lost.

:D

Greg Moore

gnorthey00
04-20-2002, 10:18 PM
Well, all I can say is, "Too bad they've managed to sucker too many people into buying their service that they've managed to stay alive."

As long as everyone does their part, let the world know that New.net is not legit, then i suppose everything will remain in balance.

GordonH
04-21-2002, 07:59 AM
Hello
Actually Daniel you can send mail to a .mp3 address provided your use your dial up ISP and they have their servers set to correctly route that mail to the server delegated to handle mail for whatever.mp3.new.net


I installed the plug in last month and was amazed at how many sites there are actually live in that name space.
I am not saying it is right, but it certainly works (after a fashion)

Gordon

gnorthey00
04-21-2002, 11:22 AM
It sounds like New.net is a sub-network of the internet. Sort of like AOL and Compuserver. Users of New.net can reach out, but non-users cannot get in unless they have the software.

Well, fine by me, I nver like AOL or Compuserve anyway.

GordonH
04-21-2002, 12:04 PM
Thats a reasonable analogy.
Its really an intranet.

I used to work in a place where you could access http info from different departments by using "domain names" in a web browser which were not resolvable outside the network because they were the top level part of the machine FQDN.
The machines on the network knew this and how to add the rest of the domain on the end.

The new.net software does the same thing.

Gordon

gnorthey00
04-21-2002, 12:47 PM
I just tested this:

Since mail can be resolved to someone@somewhere.mp3.new.net, then web access should resolve to something.fakeTLD.mew.net.

Results:
Searched New.net directory for music.*
Found music.church
ENtered music.church.new.net
Domain resolved to proper web site.

Conclusions:
This is the stupidest business model ever, selling fake domain names.

Chicken
04-21-2002, 02:25 PM
heh, yes thank you Greg... :D

I just wonder how many people get those domains that really don't understand the whole thing fully? I'd imagine quite a few.

GordonH
04-21-2002, 02:54 PM
If its that good why do new.net not use one of their domains for their own web site?

akashik
04-21-2002, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by GordonH
If its that good why do new.net not use one of their domains for their own web site?

That's exactly the point :) Because no-one would see their site without the plug in. Really at the end of the day these guys are doing little more than selling sub-domains to people at a premium price using a little plugin that works a lot like a mod-rewrite.

I think there are a few other places that did this as well as while back though I don't know if any survived. With a little tinkering almost anyone can do it. The reason we all don't (as I see it), is that the whole domain structure is crazy enough now with the 'real' ones let along these guys as well.

Greg Moore