I have just been offered a reseller account with very good specs, but the main thing was the bandwidth, it was a great deal of b/w but very cheap, it's through cogent.
I know people flame cogent bandwith, but for a reseller acount with over 80GB of b/w is this a problem?

Is Cogent the only bandwidth provider, or is there any backup?

If there isn't any backup --> don't do it. Cogent can go down, or worse: down forever...

Depends. I wouldn't base my business entirely on Cogent, however if your host has a failover / backup provider, it should be ok.

Matt

Originally posted by TRX
I have just been offered a reseller account with very good specs, but the main thing was the bandwidth, it was a great deal of b/w but very cheap, it's through cogent.
I know people flame cogent bandwith, but for a reseller acount with over 80GB of b/w is this a problem?


Hallo,

People often say that CogentCo bandwidth is bad, in my opinion it is good. Sure it may not be the best carrier out there but its also not the worst :)

If your provider is offering a backup to Cogent (like a failover) then I'd say go for it.

Hope this helps!

- Asher.

Ya, I mean, I have been on Cogent for two months and not noticed any problems....

in the past I have been on Sprintlink (my experience being hosted on Sprintlink has been unfortunate) Qwest, Verizon, PSINet, and UUNet...whilst, I agree UUnet and some of the others have been excellent....the reliability and speed seems to be on par quality wise - pricing was the big difference.

Mind you, I am not on 100% Cogentco...but even multi-homed, Sprintlink was problematic for me.

I have taken these couple of stipits from his advert

Servers are connected via dedicated 10 mbps switched ports to Cogent/Epik multihomed connections. The backbone is designed to operate at OC-192 with OC-48 loops. Our Cisco Powered Network uses ring redundancy and protected optronics to ensure survivability and availability of service. 99.9% network uptime guarantee, if not you are free to request for a full refund of that month's fees.


the fact is that this is primarily Cogent bandwidth (with multihomed backups of course) and we are basically making a very small margin on these accounts. So there is no harm in passing the cost-savings to our customers by offering lower prices!

it's really pretty personal at the moment. it seems.

i mean, any host should have a backup, that is a fact. but, i see nothing wrong with cogent + a backup. or cogent AS a backup.

bandwidth should be getting cheaper IN PRICE, and cogent are successfully trying to make that happen in the industry. i don't see why people are knocking that and against it.

but yeah. that's all personal opinion. i don't want to go back to paying $4+ per gig again...

So you think I should take this deal?

They offer aditional bandwidth for $1 per gig which can't get any better than that.

I think you should have made up your mind by now.
What's holding you anyway?

Originally posted by TRX
So you think I should take this deal?

They offer aditional bandwidth for $1 per gig which can't get any better than that.

Originally posted by klisis

What's holding you anyway?



I'm always hesitant when finding the right host, because it's not a matter of just signing up, I have to tranfer a lot of clients accounts and don't want to make a mistake.

as you should be.

it's a big decision, not one to be taken lightly.

<99.9% network uptime guarantee, if not you are free to request for a full refund of that month's fees>

I would ask about that sentence. The way it reads to me is that if downtime exceeds 43.2 minutes in a month they will refund your entire month's fees. That seems extraordinary. I don't know how one would survive with that project. Just 45 minutes downtime and the host would have to return all the month's fees?

Or maybe they just mean you are free to request a full refund, not that they intend to grant one. j/k

I would see as reasonable if they were to return a portion of the fee, but not the whole thing.

oh. and i've been on sprintlink for the last 7 months. i'm pretty happy with it. seems fast, i've only had about 20 minutes downtime which was scheduled and from europe, i have a pretty fast route to the US. my box is in virginia, and i've been as little as 11 hops away once. coming through chello > above > sprintlink.

Originally posted by Incognito
<99.9% network uptime guarantee, if not you are free to request for a full refund of that month's fees>

I would ask about that sentence. The way it reads to me is that if downtime exceeds 43.2 minutes in a month they will refund your entire month's fees. That seems extraordinary. I don't know how one would survive with that project. Just 45 minutes downtime and the host would have to return all the month's fees?

Or maybe they just mean you are free to request a full refund, not that they intend to grant one. j/k

I would see as reasonable if they were to return a portion of the fee, but not the whole thing.

I'll find out, but to be honest, Im not too bothered about this unless the servers are going down all the time, then I would have something to compain about, but generally most hosts have there downtime or how would they upgrade or sort new software.

Thanks

Originally posted by skylab
oh. and i've been on sprintlink for the last 7 months. i'm pretty happy with it. seems fast and from europe, i have a pretty fast route to the US. my box is in virginia, and i've been as little as 11 hops away once. coming through chello > above > sprintlink.

Cool:D I am probably going to go with them, I just had to find out a few things first, as I have had problems in the past.

The bottom line is that you should never rely on a single carrier for your network -- ALWAYS use a multi-homed setup which is able to cope without any slowdown even if one carrier fails. If that is the case, I don't see any problem putting Cogent into the mix, though again MAKE SURE it isn't the only carrier, and make sure it is multi-homed.

I suggest to neither base your bussines model price in cogenco prices.
They can be in bankrupt soon and you'll have to change it all.

MMM! I've had another offer that is close to that first offer and the bandwidth on the new offer is multi homed which is better

are you looking at reseller accounts?

have you thought of a dedicated box? there are many specials with high bandwidth and great networks out there.


and oh man is yipes great. whew.


yipes and cogent. two very affordable bandwidth solutions which not enough people take advantage of. unfortunately, both are in financial trouble. sad. sad.

i'm afraid of a major jump in bandwidth pricing again if either goes under.

I'm not too sure if I can afford a dedicated at the moment, I have advertised for reseller & dedicated just to compare prices, also I'm worried that I may not have enough knowledge if there is a problem with the server.

Everyone allways flames cogent but I dare you to compare their prices to competitior, what you save in money you probably dont even loose one eighth in quality or service. Also cogent bought PSInet (for 10 million, steal eh?) so their network is significantly bigger now and the chances of them going under dont look that big, they are signing deals like crazy to pull in more revenue, but I dont really know, prove me wrong.

Originally posted by smacx
Everyone allways flames cogent but I dare you to compare their prices to competitior, what you save in money you probably dont even loose one eighth in quality or service. Also cogent bought PSInet (for 10 million, steal eh?) so their network is significantly bigger now and the chances of them going under dont look that big, they are signing deals like crazy to pull in more revenue, but I dont really know, prove me wrong.

Well if what they baught isnt making money it will just burn thru their available cash faster. Also rumor has it cogent is jacking their price for 100Mbit lines. And dont say I am bashing them, I have stuff on their network, problems at times but for the price I dont mind a few hicups.