View Full Version : warez domain: can i suspend it?
e-view 10-15-2005, 04:37 AM Hello everyone,
We got complain from 3D SexVilla creators about user, who is running warez site and dont want to remove 3D SexVilla from warezlist. He isnt on our server, but we own his domain. Is it our problem what he keeps unlegal stuff website? Can you light us up what to do in such case? Do we have right to suspend his domain?
Thank youi for advices
I've seen domain registrar supend domains if they have an ebay phising scan on them so I would say yes
Rus
dollar 10-15-2005, 04:43 AM I do not know the official legalities of it, but have you tried contacting his host in the matter?
e-view 10-15-2005, 05:09 AM Originally posted by justadollarhostin
I do not know the official legalities of it, but have you tried contacting his host in the matter?
Nope. At this time i'm just lookint at the right to suspend domain name... If i dont have it - dont think i have to bother myself spending time and diging where this warez site is located. Its already 3d sex villa problem(if i understand correctly)
Stan Marsh 10-15-2005, 11:28 AM Originally posted by e-view
At this time i'm just lookint at the right to suspend domain name...
What do you mean by 'suspend'? You're a hosting company as far as I understand, NOT a registrar, so the most you can do is to suspend the hosting of his domain, NOT the domain itself. And trust me, nowadays, with real-time DNS propagation, it takes less than 2 minutes for the the site to move on to the different hosting. Been there, done that... Sad, but it's true.
Again, to suspend the DOMAIN is upto registrar. To suspend the HOSTING is upto you.
Good luck, e-view!
e-view 10-15-2005, 12:21 PM Ok, think i understood... Thanks a lot :)
thesmallguyshost 10-15-2005, 12:40 PM Originally posted by localpub
What do you mean by 'suspend'? You're a hosting company as far as I understand, NOT a registrar, so the most you can do is to suspend the hosting of his domain, NOT the domain itself.
He said he's not hosting the site, that he just owns the domain.
And if he owns the domain, I don't know why he's even asking if he can suspend it. How can there be an issue if he suspended his OWN domain?
e-view 10-15-2005, 12:45 PM thesmallguyshost>> from one side this is what i'm asking. Imagine, you are company and you register domains throw other registrars(ev1, 1and1 and so). So you kind a have all logins and passwords bla bla. And user breaks the rules. So, from one side i have to "suspend" his domain... But from another, .... i never heard about "you cannot have domain for unlegal stuff" rule :/
dmaven 10-15-2005, 12:52 PM You can complain to the actual registrar and explain the details to them. In most cases they can place the name on registrar hold
Techno 10-15-2005, 01:43 PM What do you mean by you own the domain? It is registered in your name? You are a resller?
e-view 10-15-2005, 02:06 PM Originally posted by virginia
What do you mean by you own the domain? It is registered in your name? You are a resller?
What if it belong to us? Its with some terms, but basically we are responsible for it.
Stan Marsh 10-15-2005, 02:14 PM Originally posted by e-view
What if it belong to us? Its with some terms, but basically we are responsible for it.
If the customer has PAID you - it's not yours. As simply as this.
Stan Marsh 10-15-2005, 02:19 PM And if you aren't a registrar (which you're not), you can't really suspend the domain. To use the customer's passwords in this situation wouldn't be the best choice from your side, let alone ethical one.
You can suspend his hosting account if you're 100% sure he had break the TOS/AUP or if he refuses to cooperate to remove the warez links himself.
Techno 10-15-2005, 03:08 PM This is an unusual situation. You are not hosting the site but you own the domain and let someone else use it with conditions?
Are they leasing it from you?
IMHO, at the end of the day it is the registered owner who would have the liability if the site was hosting warez.
dmaven 10-15-2005, 07:40 PM regardless if the domain name is being used in a way that violates the TOS the registrar has an obligation to disable it
Disgruntled 10-15-2005, 09:04 PM I'm not a lawyer, but I doubt that you can have a contractual obligation to aid and abet an illegal operation. I think you should pull the plug in whatever way you have control, and check with the FBI.
Bashar 10-15-2005, 11:19 PM i've fallen into many cases like this and i always provide them with information of the hosting company and abuse addresses.
because resellers can't place registrar HOLD nor you shouldn't hcange nameservers and lock the domain and change the password.
so you're best option is to point the complainer to the correct way of hosting company.
dmaven 10-16-2005, 10:02 AM Complaining to the hosting company will only get the hosting disabled. They are free to move to a different hosting company(we all know there are tens of thousands of them) and start over. Having the registrar put the domain name in registrar_hold state is the only answer
Disgruntled 10-16-2005, 10:31 PM If the warez seller threatens to sue for putting the domain in hold, tell him that's fine. You will be summoning him to be questioned about his activities, and there will be some people visiting the court eager to meet him.
dmaven 10-17-2005, 09:05 AM I doubt anyone engaging in that activity would sue, it would be all talk
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