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SlAiD
10-01-2005, 06:37 PM
Hi,
I live in Portugal but i dont want to recive money in Portugal, just PayPal.

So, to start a webhosting company what i need to have for example, autorization from a institute or make my company legal for other way.

In Portugal i need to have a company (not a virtual company), a company adress, and mutch more.

How to give quality to clients, and have my hosting company legal to U.S.A.?

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SL

KI-ChrisE
10-01-2005, 06:45 PM
You can start a company in Portugal then just provide the service to USA residents too. No harm in that.

SlAiD
10-01-2005, 06:51 PM
Yes, but can i start it only in USA, if it is more easy?
Because Portugal have a lot of hosting buisness, and i cant "enter" in that buisness with a small hosting.

So, i need to start it in other country.

KI-ChrisE
10-01-2005, 07:03 PM
There are lots of hosting businesses in Portugal?

That's news to me. :confused:

There's hundreds in the US and the UK. I see no difference as to where you start the company, but I may be missing something?

SlAiD
10-01-2005, 07:15 PM
Yes, a lot.
Some not legal, i know.
Do you understend Portuguese? Some sites like tugatech.pt or amen.pt have professional services. So, other companies dont have so mutch clients.

The difference is the price to make someting legal.
In Portugal, i cant start it fine with less that 500 euros. If is less in other USA or UK?

KI-ChrisE
10-01-2005, 07:20 PM
In the USA or the UK, you don't need to 'form' so to speak a company to actually begin trading as a company.

i.e. you can start trading straight away in whatever name you like without registering it as a company with the government.

It's perfectly legal.

On the other hand, if you want to become a registered company (in the UK, it's called a Limited Company) then you submit a document to your government and get started.

It'll cost you about the same to get going as a registered company in the UK but as I say, why not just start trading, unless your laws vary from what I've just said?

Both types of trading in the US and the UK are legal.

Infact, over in the UK, it's rather odd. People consider limited companies to be more reliable and secure to trade with than partnerships or sole trading companies.

Infact, they're not. As when your limited, all liability except negligence is removed from the owners. So if they get into debt, they can just close, whereas that would be extremely difficult if they were a sole trader unless they wanted a black mark on their credit record etc or a CCJ.

SlAiD
10-01-2005, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by KI-ChrisE
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Thanks for your info!
Just one more question, is to the IRC servers too? not IRDC, just IRC accounts?

KI-ChrisE
10-01-2005, 07:40 PM
Well, as I say, I think you can start trading straight away, but I'm not sure on the laws within your country. Best consult a lawyer on that.

But here, in the UK and in the US, you can start trading straight away - but only if you live there.

I don't understand your IRC question?

SlAiD
10-01-2005, 07:41 PM
I dont live in the UK.

I will consult a lawyer, its better to me.

KI-ChrisE
10-01-2005, 07:53 PM
Indeed, always best. Or maybe look online, usually you can find basic business information for your particular country online.

bqinternet
10-01-2005, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by KI-ChrisE
In the USA or the UK, you don't need to 'form' so to speak a company to actually begin trading as a company.

i.e. you can start trading straight away in whatever name you like without registering it as a company with the government.

It's perfectly legal.

For the US, this isn't entirely true. If you trade under any name other than your own name (i.e. Bob Smith Hosting), you normally must file a DBA certificate with the local government.

If you're in Portugal, you wouldn't be able to form a US "company" in such a manner, as you must actually live in the US to do so. Instead, you would need to form a corporation under one of the states, and have a registered agent that lives in that state.

KI-ChrisE
10-01-2005, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by bqinternet
For the US, this isn't entirely true. If you trade under any name other than your own name (i.e. Bob Smith Hosting), you normally must file a DBA certificate with the local government.

If you're in Portugal, you wouldn't be able to form a US "company" in such a manner, as you must actually live in the US to do so. Instead, you would need to form a corporation under one of the states, and have a registered agent that lives in that state.

Ah, ok, sorry wasn't aware of that.

Here we have:

Your Name
t/a
Your Company Name

Would appear on a cheque book for instance.

bqinternet
10-01-2005, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by KI-ChrisE
Ah, ok, sorry wasn't aware of that.

Here we have:

Your Name
t/a
Your Company Name

Would appear on a cheque book for instance.

It's very similar in the US. You would have Your Name d/b/a Your Company Name, but the local government (usually the county) needs to have you on file. Sometimes there's a small filing fee, and other times it's free.

KI-ChrisE
10-01-2005, 09:00 PM
Ah, I see what you may be getting at.

Yes, you still have to register here with the HM Revenue & Customs to state your in business by yourself... and you have to do that within 3 months of setting up.

But when I was talking about registering with the government etc, I meant actually stating a company name, its share holders, directors etc.