hey a friend and I are about to start a website and it looks like genius hosting had the best deal price wise but after seeing all of these horror stories about bad hosts im not so sure .
Has anyone had experience with genius hosting? Would you recomend them?

I know the CEO. Thomas is a fun guy, and he knows what he's doing. I would recommend it. :)

"1$ per 1 GigaByte of transfer + 100MB webspace"

That is too good to be true, meaning for 20gb bandwidth/month and 2000mb I would only pay $20 (USD), that is insane. Correct me if I'm wrong, but what hosting company could afford prices as low as that?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what hosting company could afford prices as low as that?

A cool web hosting company ;)

hi,
I don't have anything against genius hosting, I've never heard anything bad, or good, about them, but I'd have to agree that prices are suspiciously low for that kind of hosting packages. If they will not make enough profit they will either go out of business or raise their prices...and I don't see how they could be making any profit of those packages...

Just my 2 cents...

Anton Fox

*Anjay thinks for a moment*
I've now realized how they are able to do this. They are getting little if any profit. The majority of webhosts charge one or two dollars per 1gb of monthly bandwidth. Nearly all sain webhosts you will see do that, therefore meaning they either get maybe a dollar here and a dollar there, but otherwise I wouldn't think they would get very much profit.

You're very right Hosting Geek, they cannot be making any profit since it costs nearly all hosts $1 per month for 1gb of monthly bandwidth. While alot of hosts sell it off for a huge expense more to gain a profit. This new Genius-Hosting will certainly not last long, they will either get tired of giving such great support for no profit and either raise their prices and close down or they will just not bother anymore after getting no profit. The future for Genius-Hosting is certainly not a good one, hopefully soon they will raise their prices by a few dollars otherwise soon they'll be in the mincer like some of the other great starting out hosts such as Aletia and so on.

ok thanks guys for ur opinions, i thought the prices were suspiciously low for what you get.
Are there any Genius Hosting customers out there?

well, they do get their servers from rackshack, so that means they have 400gb of transfer to use.

400gb = $400 of revenue if they sold all accounts

lets say it costs $150 to rent the server every month, plus some key for plesk, that wont increase from $200 per month would it?

if they can just sell 300gb of that server, then they would make around $100 profit, that wouldn't be bad for two enterpreneurs who just evolved from their reselling accounts.

i pretty think they can handle it.:)

i think u guys should stop critizising genuis hosting of running out of business, they can take care of themselves already, they can easily earn a profit by selling per 8 dollars per month (their minimum plan).

and if your too cautious, then try paying monthly.

From the threads I have seen, the owner of Genius-Hosting seems to be a good guy.

From what I've heard, their servers are with Rackshack so they get bandwidth at about 0.25$/gb so they should still make a profit.

ok thanks for ur help peeps
hey if any people from genius-hosting.com read this please im me at iflow01 or pm me because i need to ask some questions
thanks

okay, guys
if you have proof that they're making profit (which looks like you do if they really are using rackshack like you say they do), then the better for genius hosting, it sure does make them look more reliable in my eyes, if anyone cares... :)

i saw some people say, oh they're reliable because one of the owners is a nice guy, well thats good for support, its means they must have a very good support for their customers, but it has nothing to do as to whether the company is profitable or reliable, which was in fact the issue in the posts above. another point that someone brought up was "go ahead and try it for on a monthly basis", well yeah its only 8 bucks, but most of the people don't look just for the price, they want to stay with one host so they wouldn't have to go through the hassles of changing hosts and moving of all of their data, especially for people who have sophisticated scripts and shopping carts installed....

once again, just to clarify my point, i'm not making any judgmental decision about genius host, i simply don't think having the owner as the "good guy" and trying hosting for a month is a good advise to give someone who simply wants a host that will be there tomorrow....they need more concrete facts about how the company is doing...

hope it helps

anton fox

I was a reseller with genius-hosting and I can only confirm the good stories. The pricing is pretty much on reseller level, but you get retail service. They seem to answer trouble tickets with a good degree of honesty and speed. They are new so their prices might go up one day, who know. Service-wise there is nothing wrong with them.

ok, so their not exactly 'bullet-proof', especially for a reseller. yes, i'am fully aware that a reseller's identity/name can be at stake if the server its clients' are hosted on fails, which is not their own fault but the hosting company that they get reseller plan from.

since GHS is just a new company, the risk of it collapsing is much more greater than a 'grown' or a 'huge' company. this is true.

i think a GHS is good for those resellers/high resource users who plan to just start out a reselling business and has a 'good knowledge' in the features that they will intend to use or sell out.

but most of the people don't look just for the price, they want to stay with one host so they wouldn't have to go through the hassles of changing hosts and moving of all of their data, especially for people who have sophisticated scripts and shopping carts installed....

this is also true. it is left to just the user to decide whether he/she wants to resell for GHS. as far as i know, even myacen's reseller packages (with plesks) are from rackshack's servers also.

Oh I feel so happy! This is the first thread I bump into that is dedicated to our company. :D

Okay: first of all:
"1$ per 1 GigaByte of transfer + 100MB webspace"

That is too good to be true, meaning for 20gb bandwidth/month and 2000mb I would only pay $20 (USD), that is insane. Correct me if I'm wrong, but what hosting company could afford prices as low as that?
Anjay: there are LOTS of companies out there that offer packages at such price. Just to name a few: AletiaHosting (although they've been going all the way down lately), AcuNett, Myacen etc.

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You're very right Hosting Geek, they cannot be making any profit since it costs nearly all hosts $1 per month for 1gb of monthly bandwidth. While alot of hosts sell it off for a huge expense more to gain a profit. This new Genius-Hosting will certainly not last long, they will either get tired of giving such great support for no profit and either raise their prices and close down or they will just not bother anymore after getting no profit. The future for Genius-Hosting is certainly not a good one, hopefully soon they will raise their prices by a few dollars otherwise soon they'll be in the mincer like some of the other great starting out hosts such as Aletia and so on.
Anjay: How can you state that? "GHS certainly will not last long" "The future of GHS is certainly not a good one" ... :rolleyes:
On what facts do you base this opinion on? :confused: Let's not speculate here.
And NO, we will NOT raise our prices at all. We're one of the cheapest, best quality hosts around, and we tend to keep it that way. :) We indeed don't get much profit out of this, but hey: we're one of the few companies that do this for the experience, the fun, the customer and to make us feel good. NOT for the money.

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well, they do get their servers from rackshack, so that means they have 400gb of transfer to use.

400gb = $400 of revenue if they sold all accounts

lets say it costs $150 to rent the server every month, plus some key for plesk, that wont increase from $200 per month would it?

if they can just sell 300gb of that server, then they would make around $100 profit, that wouldn't be bad for two enterpreneurs who just evolved from their reselling accounts.

i pretty think they can handle it. :)

i think u guys should stop critizising genuis hosting of running out of business, they can take care of themselves already, they can easily earn a profit by selling per 8 dollars per month (their minimum plan).

and if your too cautious, then try paying monthly.
NumLock: that's EXACTLY how we calculated too. :)
You're 100% correct. :agree:

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Look, I understand that people like to critisize new/starting up companies, but the facts are right here: we've been around for almost 4 months now, doing allright. :)

If anyone would have any doubts regarding our company's status (financial or other), please just ask in this thread, right here.
We tend to be honest towards our customers, towards everyone. It's one of our main goals. Honesty.

So go ahead, fire away. :D
I'm going to ask some of our customers to reply to this thread with their experiences at GHS, so that you can all see indeed that we do what we promise, if not more! ;)

I hope you all find the right host, no matter which one...

One very happy customer here, very quick and professional approach to hosting.

I really don't see any problems here, it is their choice on how they provide their service, as long as it provides high quality support and service then you have no worries.

I recommend them anyway. :)

we're one of the few companies that do this for the experience, the fun, the customer and to make us feel good. NOT for the money.

You've got to be kidding me, what kind of BS is that?

The primary mission of a company is to make money, If you are not concerned with income but want to help people then call yourself a non-profit organization.
Sorry if i'm sounding too harsh, but what happens when the "experience" is no longer enjoyable, the "fun" gone and the "feeling" bitter, as happens with all good companies, you have the highs and lows. At the end of the business day, it's all about the money.

Netacore, I know it sounds strange what I posted. :D

I just meant the following:
we've just started this (well, over 3 months now, but still :rolleyes: ), and we've made 0$ profit since then, due to the investment we made in servers etc.
Ofcourse in long-time period we are aiming on making a bit of money indeed. ;) Everyone is, as you stated.

necator:

If the sole purpose of a company was to make money, then 99% of the corporate giants around today would not be what they are.

Ford, Boeing, giant companies that went through good times, rought times, and those times in between. For what good? They were created to help people.

Companies are there for the people, not the money, If you think otherwise, I would highly advise against you going into business.

- James

zRedDice, it's Netacore :-)

I completely disagree with you. I challenge you to apply for a bank loan for your new business and tell the principle officer " Sir, The reason I need XXX amount of money is because I want to help people" Do you think you will get the capital for your business? Let me know.

Maybe Thomas K. is doing things differently, best of luck to him. But in the business world you need to demonstrate with a sound business plan your expected net, gross, etc profit and not how much good you will do to better mankind.

Economics is what drives big and small business. Take GM for example, in the late 80's they closed numerous facilities across America, most noticebly Flint Michigan, and moved to Mexico. Why did they do this? To save money, did they have any consideration about the people involved? No, the entire town was in depression. It's all business.

Don't get me wrong, having great CRM is extremely important ...
I think I made a mistake and made this thread run off-topic :-)

I agree with Netacore to a certain extent. Money is still at the end of the day a major motivator for anyone doing well. Suppose genius hosting got tired of wanting to "help" people, especially when they go over to college/university. what happens next?

Hand it over to someone else :D

Pertaining to the topic, I've only heard good things about Genius Hosting, not a single bad thing at all. Being the guy Thomas is, if "the "experience" is no longer enjoyable, the "fun" gone and the "feeling" bitter" he would definiately do something to keep his customers happy, IE: have someone manage the servers, or give it to a reputable company. I highly doubt he will be leaving the hosting world any time soon though :).

Sorry about the misspelling of your name. I type fast and don't proofread so well.

I guess we disagree. :( That's life. :)

I do have to say, however, that Thomas is quite friendly and is prompt in (at least pre-sales) e-mail. Quite professional.

Nothing bad about them from this side of the fence!

- James

Originally posted by netacore
Maybe Thomas K. is doing things differently, best of luck to him. But in the business world you need to demonstrate with a sound business plan your expected net, gross, etc profit and not how much good you will do to better mankind.


Netacore, we DO have a business plan, don't worry. ;)
I'm not that stupid as to do something one day, like:
"Oh, today I'd like to give the webhosting biz a shot. Yeah! It shouldn't be that hard, let do this... :)" and see what happens. :D

Sure... ;)
:D

@AcuNett: thanks for your kind words about us going to stay in this biz for a long time. :) (and for the other things) :love:

:)

netacore,

I completely disagree with you. I challenge you to apply for a bank loan for your new business and tell the principle officer " Sir, The reason I need XXX amount of money is because I want to help people" Do you think you will get the capital for your business? Let me know.

Maybe Thomas K. is doing things differently, best of luck to him. But in the business world you need to demonstrate with a sound business plan your expected net, gross, etc profit and not how much good you will do to better mankind.



Why don't you take a few business courses before you go talking about something you obviously have little knoweldge about.

First of all, getting a bank loan to start a business is one of the very last resources one should use when starting a business. There are many other better choices like seeking for partnerships and investors.

Secondly, non-profit businesses RARELY even bother getting bank loans.

Anyhow, I just signed up with genius hosting. My only complaint is that they did not have GD support enabled in their PHP. I need this for my adult site. But they said they would install it soon. :)

Wow, I kinda like this, the 'plan' is pretty flexible!! And what I like most and can't be found in most hosting companies is this

Adult content allowed !

While I'm still waiting for an offer for one of my sites (and while I wait for the setup of another), I thought I'd laze about :D

Actually, there are a few hosts (and reliable to boot!) that can sell 1GB to $1. I should know, I'm a "frequent shopper" here at WHT. It's just a matter of matching their packages with a particular site's needs.

But I also agree with Netacore...at the end of the day, it's still about the money although I do believe in goodwill and having good rapport with your clients (which is why it's very important for me to find good hosts to match with my clients...I don't want to refer them into a pool of sharks--not that I'm saying Genius Host is a shark, in fact I'm already looking into their packages :D )