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View Full Version : How can i be a domain Reseller
Storm911 09-26-2005, 02:39 PM Hello Every body
i want to know how can i be a domain reseller under my Brand
what i need ?
and what is a best for me
Domain Managment Software
Domain Reseller Accoount from what
and is there any other like Directi
Thanks
4solutions 09-26-2005, 04:31 PM The top reseller registrars are eNom, WildWestDomains and Directi. Each is different in how they approach it.
You might checkout www.AWBS.com which is a turn-key domain name reseller system which can also sell your other services. It can work with eNom (the best) or Directi (not as reliable).
Their are several threads here comparing all these registrars... give a search or two.
Good Luck! ;)
Storm911 03-01-2006, 05:33 AM is any one trial irrp.net
i think that they have a good prieces
but what about the them
Ixvar Inc. 03-01-2006, 06:59 AM Check out onlinenic.com
kevhosting 03-01-2006, 07:18 AM I use IRRP.
It's great, fast registration and lots of options.
A cool feature that I love is you can sell subresellers through them. (you can sell your own domain resellers). And that your subresellers can sell subresellers. So, if you get connected right. You could make alot of money.
sujithk 03-01-2006, 08:43 AM Check Enom and Directi as well
mrzippy 03-01-2006, 11:18 AM My recommendation is to ask someone to create an eNom reseller account for you.
Then, you can use the FREE "registry rocket" system that eNom provides and immediately start selling domain names to your clients using a fully branded ecommerce website, including credit card processing.
You are free to set the pricing however you want, and there is NO need to deposit anything into your eNom account to get started.
That, in my opinion, is the easiest and fastest way to get started to sell domains.
:)
Storm911 03-01-2006, 01:15 PM i know that eNom is the best for the issues
but enom give me the domain for $8.95
is there any way to get enom for less
mrzippy 03-01-2006, 01:19 PM i know that eNom is the best for the issues
but enom give me the domain for $8.95
is there any way to get enom for less
Yes, you have two choices.
1) Recommended. You can "sign up" directly with eNom as an Enterprise Technology Partner (ETP). This will cost you about $7000. Every penny goes towards new domain names (ie: it is not a signup fee.. it is a "prepaid" amount.).. but you would need to register 1000 domain names to make it worth it. Your pricing will be $6.95. (You are a reseller directly under eNom.)
2) Not recommended. You can look around (ebay, etc..) to see if someone is selling an old $6.95 account. Be VERY VERY careful, however, because the person who sells you this account will be able to also change your pricing at any time. (You are a reseller "under" them.)
kapina 03-01-2006, 03:41 PM Hi mrzippy and all,
I've also been thinking of the possibility of reselling domains to my local market. It seems that some people can take (or atleast ask for) prices that must have 60% pure profit. That "calculation" even includes some basic setup work!
It seems that you're Enom Partner, so I'll ask it here: Are there any strings attached if I sign up with an ETP? Do I pay for the domains I sell, or are there any other costs?
German Joker.com seems like another option, but they also take a deposit and the prices also are a bit higher. Yes, I know some people have not been completely satisfied with them in the past...
Thanks!
shoogbear63 03-01-2006, 04:19 PM I don't understand the benefits of these reseller account when generally you can get domains (.coms and .nets specifically) for $6.95 a pop with coupons at godaddy.
That's $7.20 including the ICANN fee at GoDaddy.
I've used that argument before shoogbear, but it's fallacious. What you get with a reseller program is a complete package including a complete ecommerce website and credit card processing (plagiarizing MrZippy).
I think Enoms reseller program is best and ResellerClub (Directi) is cheapest. They both have tiered levels. The more you plonk down, the cheaper the prices.
Many people are happy just to become a sub-account of a reseller because they're usually no upfront costs, but the fact is you won't get the cheapest prices. It's a volume game. Higher volumes, cheaper prices.
Anyhow, it beats me how anyone going into the domain reselling business think they can compete on price with the big guys. It's just not going to happen. They need to focus their attention on value-added services. That way the extra couple of bucks a domain isn't a big deal. The customers would pay more also.
kapina 03-01-2006, 06:33 PM Anyhow, it beats me how anyone going into the domain reselling business think they can compete on price with the big guys. It's just not going to happen. They need to focus their attention on value-added services. That way the extra couple of bucks a domain isn't a big deal. The customers would pay more also.
My thoughts exactly. I'd be more into site developing, and this would be on the side. Or quite possibly just a value added service. There's the fact that not nearly all people around here have credit cards, but probably that market has been saturated by cheap hosts... If you're early, there's often business in being the middle-man between different markets. Well - I'm not. :)
Oh joy, .fi is available for any Finn to register. Now it would be the perfect time to try to come up with a clever company name. :P
Scott 03-01-2006, 11:08 PM Another good reason to have a reseller account is to have control over your own domain names.
Toeki 03-01-2006, 11:29 PM Storm911 There isn't alot of profit in reselling domains so you have to be sure you have the funds to keep your business going before forking out serveral $K's of cash.
Another good reason to have a reseller account is to have control over your own domain names.
I don't get this statement Scott. You have control of your own domains in a regular retail domain registrar account also.
Scott 03-02-2006, 06:20 PM You have control over the price of your domains; and depending who you choose to become a reseller with (eNom, Godaddy, directi) management options through their control panels and support vary.
Ahh... I got what you are saying now :) So you are saying that if you have a RESELLER account DIRECT with Enom/WWD/ResellerClub as opposed to a SUB-RESELLER account, you have more control over the PRICE of your own domains. Yes/No?
The play-off is between having that direct account with largish up-front deposits directly with the registrars, or lower up-front deposits and probably higher prices, and more risk (because of more links in the chain), at an Enom ETP reseller (or equivalent). I'd hesitate to go lower in the chain than that.
Scott 03-03-2006, 12:06 AM Ahh... I got what you are saying now :) So you are saying that if you have a RESELLER account DIRECT with Enom/WWD/ResellerClub as opposed to a SUB-RESELLER account, you have more control over the PRICE of your own domains. Yes/No?.
exactly :)
It's a tough decision to make, which I've been deep in reasearch for myself for sometime now.
I'm not interested in becoming a reseller for a eNom reseller, my interest lays with eNom exclusively, because I would have no control over future costs. The flipside as you know is higher up front money. I'm a site designer developer that over the years has collected too many domains though 40% are slated to be developed. I have no interest in selling domains to the public.
mrzippy 03-03-2006, 12:33 AM Well, you could always start with an enom reseller account that is created "under" a trusted reseller.... and then once you are confident in how everything works.. you can upgrade to a full ETP account at any time.
:)
Hmmm, it seems odd that anyone would actually pay the ETP price of 7k.
Sure, I understand that the wholesale lot price in bulk is more beneficial than adding the $100 deposit in enom each time, yet the idea of 7k is amazingly out of the ordinary.
Also, competition is fierce. How many domain name registrars can dish out k's for a tv commercial (which I thought was pointless and far away from what GoDaddy actually presents) like Godaddy and manage to take in a margin of profit? It's pretty tough, but if you're looking just to start a valued domain register company without any huge expectations, I'd strongly recommend starting with a sub-reseller account. No upfront activation costs, but I'm almost 100% sure enom charges the $100 deposit for domain credit.
Good Luck.
mrzippy 03-03-2006, 01:28 AM Hmmm, it seems odd that anyone would actually pay the ETP price of 7k.
Why? Some of us prefer to have the security of knowing we are directly "under" eNom themselves.
Also, when you have 4000 domains in your account.. having direct access to our own eNom rep/support is a good thing.
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I'd strongly recommend starting with a sub-reseller account. No upfront activation costs, but I'm almost 100% sure enom charges the $100 deposit for domain credit.
There is no minimum deposit at all if you "fill up" your balance by using a check or money order or wire transfer. The $100 minimum is only if you choose to use credit card or paypal.
Also, if you are just using the registry rocket brandable website to sell domains to your customers.. then there is no deposit needed at all, since your customer's credit card is processed by eNom (anonymously). You keep the difference between your cost and whatever you specified as your customer's cost.. minus the cc processing fee.
Also, a BIG problem with reselling for godaddy is that they have no problem to contact your customers directly and also try to sell them web hosting. That's not good... since it is kind of silly to allow a direct competitor to contact your clients with advertising.
:) Something to consider...
Why? Some of us prefer to have the security of knowing we are directly "under" eNom themselves.
I'm not putting you down in anyway for your decision in purchasing the 7k etp. I personally find it, from an average person's point of view, that paying 7k for domains may not be seen as much of a profitable decision, seeing that you would literally have to sell hundreds (in your case thousands) to make up the difference.
However, seeing that you have "4000" domains under you, my statement does not pertain to you. I apologize if my statement seemed as if it were calling your business decision foolish; I was only commenting that the idea of selling the etp for 7k form enom is most likely out of the ordinary.
But getting back to the issue at hand. The rocket registry program sounds like a good bet.
I'm assuming that if there is no upfront cost/deposit, this is a pay as you go program. Although I could've sworn that there is a $99 fee for CC approval? Or something like that?
mrzippy 03-03-2006, 01:50 AM I personally find it, from an average person's point of view, that paying 7k for domains may not be seen as much of a profitable decision, seeing that you would literally have to sell hundreds (in your case thousands) to make up the difference.
Well.. like any product or service that is sold on the planet... it is not for everyone. :) You wouldn't buy a porsche if you only needed a hugo. But some poeple NEED a porsche (for maintaining a professional/successful image, etc..), and some people just "want" one and have the money to buy one.
eNom ETP is kind of the same thing. Some people (like us) NEED one.. and some people just WANT one.
Of course.. it is a personal decision, based on the needs and wants of the buyer.. just like EVERYTHING you might buy.
"Profitable" is a relative term. Sure, you could probably make more "profit" with some other registrar that gives pricing of $6.50 instead of $6.95. But then you might not get the good support and service that comes with eNom, or the free features with every domain name, or the knowledge that eNom's entire business is designed for resellers and not just a "oh by the way" program for resellers where the parent company also competes head-to-head with their own resellers.
:)
I'm assuming that if there is no upfront cost/deposit, this is a pay as you go program. Although I could've sworn that there is a $99 fee for CC approval? Or something like that?
There is no upfront cost at all to use the registry rocket website system from enom.
There *is* a cost if you want to use their "PDQ" system, which is a much more powerful ecommerce website.. however I don't recommend it. (I think there are better solutions on the market, if you want to spend $99...)
4solutions 03-03-2006, 02:43 AM Well.. like any product or service that is sold on the planet... it is not for everyone. :) You wouldn't buy a porsche if you only needed a hugo.No disrespect, but I keep up on my autos and I don't remember a Hugo... but I did finance several Yugos back in the early 1980's. Not good deals as I recall... we had to repossess them because they fell apart. :eek:
Sorry... I guess this is definitely offtopic, mrzippy. :peace:
kapina 03-03-2006, 02:46 AM There is no minimum deposit at all if you "fill up" your balance by using a check or money order or wire transfer. The $100 minimum is only if you choose to use credit card or paypal.
Do eNom accept international wire transfers? I think I saw something on this on their website... Of course, banking fees may apply, so using credit card may be more cost effective. And $100 is not a big sum if you're running a business.
4solutions 03-03-2006, 03:00 AM kapina - eNom does accept international wire transfers in any amount. But, if the currency is not in U.S. Dollars they say their bank will impose a 30 day delay (hold on funds available).
I have had really good luck just mailing them a check to their Illinois Bank's address on their website. BUT... again, they say there is a 30 day hold on foreign currencies other than U.S. Dollars. PLUS... be sure to put down your account login name plus "deposit" on the check itself to protect yourself.
Finally, you are so right... $100 goes pretty fast if you have any kind of domain registration volume.
Kindest Regards... BTW... I always wanted to go to Finland ;)
It's a tough decision to make, which I've been deep in reasearch for myself for sometime now.
I'm not interested in becoming a reseller for a eNom reseller, my interest lays with eNom exclusively, because I would have no control over future costs. The flipside as you know is higher up front money. I'm a site designer developer that over the years has collected too many domains though 40% are slated to be developed. I have no interest in selling domains to the public.
exactly! :) I've been doing the same research. I'm not really interested in reselling either. My main interest with having an Enom account is because they are the biggest reseller network. That means lots of other domainers to trade domains, with a free push to/from other Enom accounts.
I've only just opened up an account with Fabulous (not a reseller network). They're $6.75. So far, their admin panel looks pretty good, and their support has been responsive and good (at least for the ppc side of their business).
Let me know what you decide, when you decide.
kapina 03-04-2006, 06:19 AM kapina - eNom does accept international wire transfers in any amount. But, if the currency is not in U.S. Dollars they say their bank will impose a 30 day delay (hold on funds available).
Thanks for the info. I think getting the money in US dollars is not the problem, since banks do anything for a fee. But with any kind of fee, it's probably not going to be worth it.
Kindest Regards... BTW... I always wanted to go to Finland ;)
Warning: it can be a "stay for a while - stay forever!" kind of deal. If you meet a nice Finnish girl... :D
dnpimp 03-07-2006, 08:24 PM My recommendation is to ask someone to create an eNom reseller account for you.
Then, you can use the FREE "registry rocket" system that eNom provides and immediately start selling domain names to your clients using a fully branded ecommerce website, including credit card processing.
You are free to set the pricing however you want, and there is NO need to deposit anything into your eNom account to get started.
That, in my opinion, is the easiest and fastest way to get started to sell domains.
:)
What you mean by "FREE"?
"You must be an official eNom Reseller to sign-up for RegistryRocket."
Premier 03-08-2006, 01:30 AM They need to focus their attention on value-added services. That way the extra couple of bucks a domain isn't a big deal. The customers would pay more also.
Very true. Many of our customers say they prefer to register through us just because it's handy to have everything in 1 place.
mrzippy 03-08-2006, 04:28 AM What you mean by "FREE"?
"You must be an official eNom Reseller to sign-up for RegistryRocket."
It does not cost you anything to sign up as an official eNom Reseller, if you sign up "under" any existing reseller.
:)
In other words, any current enom reseller can create a free enom reseller account for you.
kashem 03-08-2006, 12:11 PM Also check onlinenic.com
zoobie 03-08-2006, 12:57 PM There isn't alot of profit in reselling domains so you have to be sure you have the funds to keep your business going before forking out serveral $K's of cash.
Toeki is right. Resellers buy in the thousands. With all the names being dumped daily and being a noob, this is probably not a good game to get into. Several before you have lost their shirts and they knew what they were doing. Just take a look here at the domains for sale forum and you'll see what I mean...and that's just this site.
Masud 03-08-2006, 03:35 PM eNom and Directi
Both are very good!
Storm911 03-08-2006, 03:42 PM and what about onlineNIC ?
Hi. I'm from Brazil. Do you know if it's possible to have enom control panel in Portuguese, since here in Brazil we speak portuguese.
Thanks, Marcelo
Storm911 03-17-2006, 01:24 PM Enom support only dome few primary language
but you can email enom for more information
thanks
Premier 03-21-2006, 04:26 PM If you're really serious, you might want to start here: http://www.icann.org/registrars/accreditation-process.htm
That's the link I was looking for but didn't have time to look for and couldn't remember it.
4solutions 03-21-2006, 04:39 PM That's the link I was looking for but didn't have time to look for and couldn't remember it.LOL! This is a common question on here.
I believe that it is actually much cheaper to buy one of the existing drop registrars than to start at the beginning and go through the ICANN accreditation process. These smaller registrars go up for sale every so often (I even saw one on ebay once). .
LogicBoxes also has a turnkey program, too, where they can lead you through the accreditation process and then supply you with their software to handle resellers and domain name registration. I don't know what their charging for that, though.
And, of course, don't forget that each Registry has an application process and separate fees, too.
I'll stick with my eNom reseller account, myself ;)
Premier 03-21-2006, 04:44 PM I was looking into the costs and procedure a couple years ago and it'll probably be another couple years before I decide to become a .com registrar. We are a .ws registrar because that is quite a bit cheaper to set up and I personally like .ws.
tigrrra 03-21-2006, 05:11 PM I don’t this that wholesale is that high when you look at some sites that sell domains for 5.99 per year and they are not running specials. go daddy has .coms .nets and so on for 3.99 im a reseller through them every time someone’s buys a .com or .net from me I lose like 50c or so there fore go daddy may not lose money at all I think a wholesale domain is around 3 bucks or so it cant be 6bux high they how would you explain godaddys million dollar commercials they only became really big in the last 2 years
NM this 4solutions (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/member.php?u=10865) explained to me how they can afford to sell for that low. Thanks man just thought i would ask. :lovewht:
tigrrra 03-21-2006, 05:19 PM Dose anybody have any idea of how much $$$ GoDaddy pay to buy wildwestdomains?
Hi. I'm from Brazil. Do you know if it's possible to have enom control panel in Portuguese, since here in Brazil we speak portuguese.
Thanks, Marcelo
I just read somewhere from Enom that they support English and Spanish. These were the only two languages mentioned. Did you ask them?
kashem 03-31-2006, 08:27 AM I am using onlinenic.com,
frags-4u 03-31-2006, 08:53 AM try namealerts.com they also offer payments by paypal but are limited in the domains they can provide. ie: .com .net. .org. biz .info .co.uk but they are the most ive ever needed anyway.
kebirhost 03-31-2006, 09:14 AM Hi,
Resellone.
cr-hosting 03-31-2006, 01:53 PM How about a reselling domains, with an offshore domain registrar anyone know one?
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