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geestring
09-25-2005, 10:27 PM
they say don't try to compete with the large companies...

but do people actually signup for a 200mb space and 5gb bw per month? seems really low....

I think it would be hard to sell for that little when the people know theres more somewhere else... I'm targetting lfash designers...

jmweb
09-25-2005, 10:31 PM
There is more elsewhere...your right...I believe there was just a post in the web hosting section about 50 gb space and 1tb bandwidth for $5 a month. With companies offering this much space/bandwidth for such low rates why go with anyone else.

At the same time, we also have companies who sell 10 mb space and 200 mb bandwidth for $15 a month.

Conclusion, yes, there is a market for it. Most personal sites won't use more then 2-3 gb bandwidth a month. Most businesses won't use more then 100 mb space.

mikeym
09-25-2005, 10:48 PM
In general, people tend to believe that their site will use more bandwidth than it really does. People generally won't use over 10 GB per month for a personal site as jmweb said. Actually, the busiest site I've ran only pushed about 40 GB of bandwidth a month, which isn't a whole lot in the scheme of things.

I suppose most people just don't have a proper understanding of bandwidth and their needs, and then there are the people that just want to have room to grow. However, for most people, a couple of gigabytes of bandwidth will be sufficient for the month, there is no real need for much more, in most cases anyway.

Let's take a quick example here, some of you may be familiar with the company TextDrive, http://textdrive.com/. As you'll notice, unlike a lot of providers, they don't give you 100 GB of bandwidth with each plan. Here is their reasoning behind it:

http://weblog.textdrive.com/article/74/just-how-much-is-10gbsmonth-of-bandwidth-at-textdrive

This is a pretty good explanation, and even without compression enabled, you don't use a large amount of bandwidth.

geestring
09-26-2005, 12:10 AM
true... but people still think more is better... kind of bothers me when planning to setup a company..

hmm lets say I get 20 clients on one reseller plan... is it comoon for people to sign up for more resellers plans as you get more clients... wouldnt that be messy with multiple admininterfaces to deal with that are not in one "area"?

supremenetworks
09-26-2005, 12:13 AM
Well it also depends how much are they selling that 200mb space and 5gb bw per month. I have seen host that sell that for 1 - 2 dollars/M. Me myself had sites that only used about 50 to 70 MB of space, and purchased a plan with 150MB. See I knew what I basicly needed for that site and went for it what I needed and a little more incase I grew. But people still do go for those specs. I know people that bought plans with 2000MB and all they needed was about 25 MB.

Thanks/

ldcdc
09-26-2005, 12:45 AM
but do people actually signup for a 200mb space and 5gb bw per month? seems really low.... Actually such a plan seems quite decent to me, as long as it comes with good support. Sure, you won't be able to sell that here on WHT, but those are quite decent amounts for most websites out there. Probably more than 90% of the sites out there don't not need more than that.

is it comoon for people to sign up for more resellers plans as you get more clients...I don't know about common, but it's definitely not unheard of. It can make economical sense to do so up until you reach the size when you can afford a dedicated server.

OzyWebHost
09-26-2005, 12:57 AM
As Dan said you won't have much luck pushing those plans around here - a forum comprising hosts in the majority.

However the average client is looking to host just one site and generally they don't have a clue about their resource requirements.

We start at 50MB/1500MB plans with the ability to upgrade but the majority of our clients are on that starter plan and quite happy with it because, at those rates, we can afford to provide top quality support.

Support is the keyword - not resources :D

mikeym
09-26-2005, 12:57 AM
Some people also just don't want the hassle of a dedicated machine, it may be worth their while to have a few resellers, as long as they don't have a huge number of clients anyway.

geestring, I agree with you saying people think more is better, most people do anyway. It's this kind of mentality that has the hosting industry where it is now. Why pay $10 a month for 5 GB of bandwidth and 1 GB of space, when you can get 5 times that amount of $5 a month. People that do the proper research will be able to tell the difference, but it's unfortunate that a lot of the people out there can't tell. I suppose this is what the companies that are offering those plans are going after, uneducated individuals, and for now, it seems to be working.

Not that I'm completely discouraging overselling, which can work well as long as you don't go overboard, but 200GB of bandwidth on a $15 a month plan? There are companies out there that can oversell and make it work, but what is really important is the support.

geestring
09-26-2005, 01:10 AM
i know a few sites that seem really good.. 500mb space and 20gb transfer for $12... my niche will be the flashc ommunity...

however im hoping that some good branding and a wicked artsy flash site will win them over...

err i still cant find a reseller plan with flash com server...

Atul-JodoHost
09-26-2005, 01:29 AM
[i]...hmm lets say I get 20 clients on one reseller plan... is it comoon for people to sign up for more resellers plans as you get more clients... wouldnt that be messy with multiple admininterfaces to deal with that are not in one "area"? [/B]

This is very difficult way of managing. Which Control Panel you use? In H-Sphere Control Panel, all you need to do is upgrade to a Reseller Plan which allows you higher resources and more clients while keeping single admin Control Panel to manage all clients.

geestring
09-26-2005, 01:31 AM
true.. but i guess I think im going to get a lot of signups hehe...

I'm just saying I don't want to buy a huge account when I don't have clients yet...

What I'm trying to say is that I only want to pay for what I need..

like I can imagine a reseller account to be filled up rather quickly?

Anky
09-26-2005, 02:02 AM
People will sign up for 50MB space and 1.5GB space, I know this for a fact and it is proven.

geestring
09-29-2005, 12:43 PM
is it easy to updrade to a higher capacity when you alrdy have clients on an existing plan... ?