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effusionx1
09-09-2005, 03:26 PM
I'll be frank, i'm sick and tired of scammer threads in the Lounge and most recently I note the thread concerning one "Joshua Brady".

I don't care if it's civil, I don't care who's right or wrong - i'm really not the only one.
Although it has already been discussed and answered by iNet i'm going to bring it up again.

I propose that a subforum be set up under the Lounge to deal with misdemeanors. That way, those who want to participate/report or review the current people to watch out for - can do so, without getting in the way of everyone else who comes to the Lounge to relax and chat.

The Lounge has had a well earned reputation for being a source of jokes, comedy, resolve, happy exchanges, unhappy exchanges, life problems etc. The majority of people do not want to hear about scammers / spammers and (if they do for whatever reason) they could consult the misdemeanors subforum. Why should this reputation be ruined? - Let's keep the Lounge a Lounge.

If I was the only person who wanted such a scheme, I wouldn't have posted, but i'm not - i'm just one in a whole host of other individuals who don't want to have to battle with a 20 page thread about some lowlife. Many of the posts are unconstructive such as -

"I hate these scum", "People like this should be shot" and other such uninspired remarks.

Maybe that thread will stay where it is for the moment, but I sure won't be posting until it disappears.
If iNet are happy for there to be one dominating post about a fool at the top of the forums for a week, then let it be. The guy doesn't even deserve the attention. Stick him in a subforum and have done with it. That way he will not be tempted to actually participate in the Lounge on a day to day basis.

Food for thought my friends.

Regards,

Jordan

SoftWareRevue
09-09-2005, 03:30 PM
Let me see if I understand your concern. . .

One thread in the Lounge is receiving more posts than other threads and therefore it is unfair to any other thread that may come up first in the list?

effusionx1
09-09-2005, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Let me see if I understand your concern. . .

One thread in the Lounge is receiving more posts than other threads and therefore it is unfair to any other thread that may come up first in the list?

No.
One thread is dominating the Lounge and causing the Lounge to be turned into some sort of scammer post board but hey, I just find it frustrating. Maybe i'm not being logical.

Jordan

blue27
09-09-2005, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by effusionx1
If I was the only person who wanted such a scheme, I wouldn't have posted, but i'm not - i'm just one in a whole host of other individuals who don't want to have to battle with a 20 page thread about some lowlife. Many of the posts are unconstructive such as -



Who are these individuals and who is forcing them to battle with a 20 page thread?
I don't see anyone here forcing anyone else to read a particular thread.
If you don't like the topic move on the a different one.

effusionx1
09-09-2005, 03:48 PM
It's the concept of the Lounge being turned into a scammers playgroun d which is what I dont like. Sure people should be made aware but does it have to be done in the Lounge which normally contains some interesting threads. At the moment many people seem to be focusing their attention on that thread. I was being a bit over dramatic when I said "i'm sick and tired" :stickout: but can you not see why a person could find it frustrating?

Jordan

sirius
09-09-2005, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by effusionx1
The majority of people do not want to hear about scammers / spammers and (if they do for whatever reason) they could consult the misdemeanors subforum. Why should this reputation be ruined? - Let's keep the Lounge a Lounge.


Remind me again of when you were elected to speak for the majority of WHT's members? I must have missed that somewhere.

Although I agree with you, that a sub forum should be created for these incidents, I don't agree with your general outlook on it and I find it a bit irresponsible.

One of the great things about WHT is the access to a vast amount of resources. If we have someone amongst us, who is a proven scumbag who is scamming fellow members, then that should be up for public consumption in an area which is prominent.

It's a pretty simple concept, though... if you don't want to pariticpate or deal with the thread, you simply ignore it and click another thread.

Sirius

the_pm
09-09-2005, 06:27 PM
Erm...Jord, let me give you the recap of how your posts sound from the outside. Sometimes it's helpful to hear it this way, to understand why people might not agree. I'm hearing "only topics that are of interest to me should be in the Lounge. Anything else should be pushed into a subforum, where I don't even have to acknowledge its existence." The thing is, you can choose not to acknowledge the existence of a scammer thread by simply clicking something else. If we were seeing thousands of threads on this topic, maybe the case could be made that it should be its own main forum, but stuffing it into the corner defeats the purpose of having such public discussions.

We're seeing this happening with WHT meet-ups right now.

Aussie Bob
09-09-2005, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by sirius
It's a pretty simple concept, though... if you don't want to pariticpate or deal with the thread, you simply ignore it and click another thread.

Torith
09-09-2005, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by sirius


It's a pretty simple concept, though... if you don't want to pariticpate or deal with the thread, you simply ignore it and click another thread.

Sirius


I think these words fit best. It is not like it is many threads just one thread every once a while. If you do not like it do not read it :).

effusionx1
09-10-2005, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by sirius
I don't agree with your general outlook on it and I find it a bit irresponsible.


I agree with you guys, I guess I just found it a little frustrating at the time. I fail to see how it is irresponsible though. In future, i'll not bother
airing my views if doing so is seen as being irresponsible.

Remind me again of when you were elected to speak for the majority of WHT's members? I must have missed that somewhere.

Sirius - I know i'm insignificant on these forums, i'm not trying to be any authority on the matter - I was just saying that I think a subforum should be created and that I know i'm not the only one.

Alas, - I agree, aslong as this does not become a regular occurence - it should be okay.

Jord

anon-e-mouse
09-10-2005, 09:44 AM
It is far from a regular occurence thankfully. I see only one in the lounge in recent days. Maybe a subforum for Katrina related items could be considered until this issue settles down somewhat would be more in order.

Tyler
09-10-2005, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by anon-e-mouse
...Maybe a subforum for Katrina related items could be considered until this issue settles down somewhat would be more in order.

Katrina now has become, "Anti-Bush, Anti-FEMA" threads now...for now.

TheDoctor
09-10-2005, 10:39 AM
I can see it's somewhat of a catch 22 situation. On the one hand you need to warn people of possible problems and inform them of passed misdemeanors, scams etc. however in doing so you are also giving the perpetrator his 5 minutes of fame.

Now it can become a tad boring after a few dozen pages and one possible way to overcome that is to move it into a subforum however that also presents a problem as outlined my anon-e-mouse in that it then may not get the initial exposure needed.

A compromised would be to move it into a subforum once it had, had initial exposure, this of course I would leave in the discetion of the mods.

I'll be frank, Sorrow effusionx1 you can't be "frank" your Jordan. :rolleyes:

Doc

effusionx1
09-10-2005, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by TheDoctor


Sorrow effusionx1 you can't be "frank" your Jordan. :rolleyes:

Doc

:beer: Nice one

- Frank

SamOwen
09-10-2005, 03:30 PM
*runs to The Lounge to see what the fuss is about

Rackmounts
09-10-2005, 11:14 PM
I find the post I made about Joshua Brady extremely resourceful. Ive kept 3 companies from sending him wires for his "so called partnerships". Saving them $1000's of dollars. I consider that a noteworthy cause.

TheDoctor
09-10-2005, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Rackmounts
I find the post I made about Joshua Brady extremely resourceful. Ive kept 3 companies from sending him wires for his "so called partnerships". Saving them $1000's of dollars. I consider that a noteworthy cause.

:idea: Do we get a commission on money saved by companies and or individuals. ;)

Doc

Rackmounts
09-10-2005, 11:59 PM
hmm.. thats an idea! LOL :P nah doc.. just knowing you saved someone else a headache is enough reward (for at least me). :P

dolay
09-11-2005, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Rackmounts
I find the post I made about Joshua Brady extremely resourceful. Ive kept 3 companies from sending him wires for his "so called partnerships". Saving them $1000's of dollars. I consider that a noteworthy cause.
I am so thankfull to you Brian [ Brian right? ]
He may be able to destroy our hosting accounts [ 3k+ hosted site datas] like he destroyed ankahost.com
if we were same situation that Joshua Brady destroyed ankahost i maybe not living now and killed myself due to that shame.. tough i even dont give backup servers login details even my employees but who knows that evil may try to find its way like he do for ankahost.com and remove with backups to death..

Man, this evil provided me SWIFT and BAO document that is exactly like a real SWIFT and even notation numbers of federal reserve that exactly matches [with coding] altough i graduated from Business admnistration faculty i swallow that tricked.. As soon as i seen Brian thread i changed all the passwords of all of our services controls but it was already too late that he expense more than 600USD from my paypal account for some boots and chem lights :stickout:

That thread was exactly belonging to the Lounge and the biggest reason is that: this evil is selecting his victims from WHT whom are opened to be abused by his plans. He choose all of his victims via WHT active users and investigated their behaviours , back ends and histories and get in contact with them with the exact deals they were looking [ we have deals we were looking that mentioned at WHT]
So it is really the duty of the WHT to change this thread title as his name and let that thread stay at the Lounge as i am thinking...

Best Regards,

David
09-19-2005, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by the_pm
Erm...Jord, let me give you the recap of how your posts sound from the outside. Sometimes it's helpful to hear it this way, to understand why people might not agree. I'm hearing "only topics that are of interest to me should be in the Lounge. Anything else should be pushed into a subforum, where I don't even have to acknowledge its existence." The thing is, you can choose not to acknowledge the existence of a scammer thread by simply clicking something else. If we were seeing thousands of threads on this topic, maybe the case could be made that it should be its own main forum, but stuffing it into the corner defeats the purpose of having such public discussions.

We're seeing this happening with WHT meet-ups right now.
//threadjack
On that note I'd like the gettogether threads to migrate back!

The only issue I have with the 'spammer/scammer' threads are personal details of unsuspecting users who've had their credit card details stolen.