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webreseller 04-10-2002, 11:52 AM WEBRESELLER HAS 3 NEW OFFERINGS:
PIII 1.0 / 512 MB / 60 GIG HD / 450 GIG TRANSFER
INTEL 10 / 100 NIC
Includes 16 IP's (ARIN GUIDLINES)
Ensim 3.0 SERVER EXCHANGE VERSION Unlimited License
$125 Setup / $109.00 Per Month
P4 1.6 / 512 MB / 60 GIG HD / 450 GIG TRANSFER
INTEL 10 / 100 NIC
Includes 16 IP's (ARIN GUIDLINES)
Ensim 3.0 SERVER EXCHANGE VERSION Unlimited License
FREE 10 Account Reseller Billing & Automation Suite
$249 Setup / $139.00 Per Month
IBM X-SERIES PIII 1.0
10 mbps connection
60 GIG HD
512 MB
Includes 16 IP's (ARIN GUIDLINES)
Ensim 3.0 SERVER EXCHANGE VERSION Unlimited License
FREE 10 Account Reseller Billing & Automation Suite
$99.00 Setup / $305.00 Per month
Additional information can be found at:
webreseller.net (http://)
The Laughing Cow 04-10-2002, 12:04 PM Interested in the first offer,
Who provides bandwidth? Is it multihomed?
mpjetta 04-10-2002, 12:05 PM Nice prices.....who are your bandwith providers?
JBIZ718 04-10-2002, 12:21 PM They run
yipes (level 3 & genuity) and are adding another carrier.
This is not cogent,
Yipes has almost no outages
Joe
Some IP to test?
Has anyone ordered a server from webreseller?
How about their support?
ReliableServers 04-10-2002, 02:31 PM Originally posted by JBIZ718
This is not cogent,
Yipes has almost no outages
Outages are outages no matter who the provider(s) are.
Nice deal btw webreseller!
AcuNett 04-10-2002, 02:44 PM Interested... is it possible to have either no CP, or PLESK?
webreseller 04-10-2002, 03:54 PM We can arrange a basic system and you can install a control panel of of your choice...
Originally posted by AcuNett
Interested... is it possible to have either no CP, or PLESK?
do you allow people to re-sell your servers?
Revelation 04-10-2002, 05:49 PM amazing deal!
ServerXchange is expensive generally, which makes your deal all the better!
webreseller 04-10-2002, 05:50 PM Yes, you get $10.00 off reseold PIII Per Month, $15.00 On P4. Only on second machines and more. Once you get a primary machine with us you can always add additional servers with the discount.
Originally posted by 311
do you allow people to re-sell your servers?
webreseller 04-10-2002, 05:52 PM The server exchange version of WebApplicane allows for updates and security patches. It gives us greater flexibility with our customers.
Originally posted by Revelation
amazing deal!
ServerXchange is expensive generally, which makes your deal all the better!
pobox300 04-10-2002, 06:01 PM Have you folks upgraded the servers to support PHP 4.12 as well as RedHat 7.2, as I have seen Ensim only offering 7.1 support with RedHat, and 4.06 for PHP, but I have seen other offers on this forum that have been upgraded to 7.2 and PHP 4.12 even with Ensim installed.
Thanks in advance.
papepo55 04-10-2002, 06:02 PM Could I download the file for speedtest?
Matlok 04-10-2002, 06:06 PM Great deals!
Joe said you run yipes and you're adding another carrier. Is that true (for these servers)? And can you already say what the other carrier will be?
webreseller 04-10-2002, 06:12 PM Currently we are running 3.0 with RedHat 7.1. Very shorty we will be releasing 3.1 RedHat 7.2... You can figure the 3.1 with 7.2 will be offered in about 30 days... Upgrades will be able to be done..
Originally posted by pobox300
Have you folks upgraded the servers to support PHP 4.12 as well as RedHat 7.2, as I have seen Ensim only offering 7.1 support with RedHat, and 4.06 for PHP, but I have seen other offers on this forum that have been upgraded to 7.2 and PHP 4.12 even with Ensim installed.
Thanks in advance.
pobox300 04-10-2002, 06:16 PM Originally posted by webreseller
Currently we are running 3.0 with RedHat 7.1. Very shorty we will be releasing 3.1 RedHat 7.2... You can figure the 3.1 with 7.2 will be offered in about 30 days... Upgrades will be able to be done..
Will you be doing the upgrade to these offers, or will the server client be responsible for the upgrade at that time at any additional cost?
webreseller 04-10-2002, 06:34 PM We will handle the upgrade, there may be an additional setup fee for the upgrade, however, your monthly fee will remain the same if you are a current customer.
webreseller 04-10-2002, 07:05 PM Per your request I have set this up to check the download speed: please visit http://www.webreseller.net/speed.htm Right click and save as... It's a .rm file..
Originally posted by papepo55
Could I download the file for speedtest?
The Laughing Cow 04-10-2002, 07:07 PM 60k/s from the UK :)
Can I ask what the support (if any) you provide for these? Would these be newbie friendly or is it just emergency issues you fix?
webreseller 04-10-2002, 07:08 PM We are very "Newbie" friendly... We are here to help you with your questions.
Originally posted by The Laughing Cow
60k/s from the UK :)
Can I ask what the support (if any) you provide for these? Would these be newbie friendly or is it just emergency issues you fix?
ScottD 04-10-2002, 07:17 PM Not bad:19:08:32 (1.54 MB/s) - `jellyroll.rm' saved [2314873/2314873]Also consistantly pinging in the low 30's.
Excellent deal!
BiGWill 04-10-2002, 08:24 PM very nice deal!
02:18:58 (577.57 KB/s) - »jellyroll.rm« saved [2314873/2314873] from Europe!! :-)
really excellent speed here!
so your provider is yipes and someone said you'd be adding another soon? is that right? could you please confirm that?
thanks!
Champhost 04-10-2002, 10:37 PM I just got this server and although they have said they were not setting the systems up until Thursday I got mine tonight. So far everything has been great. I called there support deprtment becuase I need a Module installed and within 15 minutes I got an email saying it was done. 20 Minutes later I received a call from one of the techs asking if everything was ok and if this is was I had needed.
So far I am very impressed by the speed.... I will keep everyone up to date... :)
westsideny 04-10-2002, 11:14 PM I also just got my server and I am very pleased with the access speed. Under 30 no loss. I have not had to enter any help tickets yet, but so far everything has been setup perfectly..
dektong 04-10-2002, 11:52 PM This is what I got from my server at VDI (NJ):
23:42:24 (3.02 MB/s) - `jellyroll.rm' saved [2314873/2314873]
Impressive ... but then I think download speed also depend on how far the two servers are, and in this case mine is very close to the download site.
So here is what I got from my server at Miami, FL:
10:47:06 (1.25 MB/s) - `jellyroll.rm' saved [2314873/2314873]
Very impressive indeed :)
From my server at Arizona:
20:51:33 (667.24 KB/s) - `jellyroll.rm' saved [2314873/2314873]
Not bad at all, considering the thousand miles span between my server at arizona and the download site!
cheers,
:beer:
westsideny 04-11-2002, 01:00 AM I entered a support ticket and received a response in 30 minutes about a MySQL question... Not bad for 1:00 AM...
dektong 04-11-2002, 01:14 AM Now rackshack has a competition ... If webreseller can provide top notch support, then definitely people will consider them over rackshack!
cheers,
:beer:
pobox300 04-11-2002, 01:43 AM Originally posted by dektong
Now rackshack has a competition ... If webreseller can provide top notch support, then definitely people will consider them over rackshack!
cheers,
:beer:
Well you might want to be carefull with what you're saying on these forums now since RS bought this board (obviously because of competition), and is soon to control advertising on a pay per position model which is what seems to be what they are proposing. Now I'm quite sure since they own this forum they will always receive top billing in all possible ways, so no matter how much cash you throw at a top position, they are always going to come out ahead if they see a compeditor that can offer better then what they can, which in my opinion isn't all that hard to do to sart with.:uhh:
ToastyX 04-11-2002, 01:58 AM 450 GB of non-Cogent bandwidth? Good support? What's the catch? :confused: :confused: :confused:
panopticon 04-11-2002, 02:16 AM Very Nice Offer
May I ask a couple questions:
1.) What data center are you in? Could you provide a few pictures?
2.) What is the hardware used? Motherboard manufacturer?
panopticon 04-11-2002, 02:21 AM 3.) Also what brand of hard drives?
wget http://www.webreseller.net:80/jellyroll.rm
02:12:31 (673.60 KB/s) - `jellyroll.rm' saved [2314873/2314873]
wget http://www.webreseller.net:80/jellyroll.rm
02:12:11 (700.10 KB/s) - `jellyroll.rm' saved [2314873/2314873]
panopticon 04-11-2002, 02:24 AM 4.) And how about a remote reboot switch?
5.) Do you have people on-site 24/7? How many techs do you currently have?
6.) And if these are RH 7.1, have you installed the ext3 filesystem?
Nice questions, panopticon! I'd also like to ask the same questions :D
This is a very nice deal but I would like to get more information about webreseller. Are you a new or a well-established company? Do you own your own datacenter? Are you a reseller?
dektong 04-11-2002, 03:09 AM I have seen webreseller since last year, so ... no ... they are not brand new company.
cheers,
:beer:
I see. desktong, how well do you know webreseller? Do they have many satisfied customers?
dektong 04-11-2002, 03:21 AM I don't know them at all except I visited their website many times since last year ... So sorry, can't help you with that :)
cheers,
:beer:
Originally posted by webreseller
Per your request I have set this up to check the download speed: please visit http://www.webreseller.net/speed.htm Right click and save as... It's a .rm file..
Nice speed from Belgium.
About 100k/s from my 1mbits adsl line
09:56:23 (607.69 KB/s) - `jellyroll.rm' saved [2314873/2314873] from a shell in Belgium
10:00:15 (585.35 KB/s) - `jellyroll.rm' saved [2314873/2314873] from DV2 datacenter
09:57:40 (1.02 MB/s) - `jellyroll.rm' saved [2314873/2314873] from RS
scott2 04-11-2002, 04:09 AM How do you feel about the Yipes-only bandwidth? Didn't Yipes file for bankrupcy?
Wouldn't a multihomed BGP network like the dv2 resellers or rackshack be better? Or is Yipes that good?
The Laughing Cow 04-11-2002, 08:31 AM This is very interesting and im tempted to sign but something is saying beware to me.
I would like my own personal full dedicated server but am not sure if I could handle this and whether the support would be there for me :eek:
webreseller 04-11-2002, 08:42 AM No catch at all, Yipes offer an excellent service at great rates. Far below typical telco..
Originally posted by ToastyX
450 GB of non-Cogent bandwidth? Good support? What's the catch? :confused: :confused: :confused:
webreseller 04-11-2002, 08:46 AM We will be providing pictures shortly of our new data center... Code Name "Host Para 2" :).. AT that time I will be more then happy to send them to you. Our current data center is in our adminstrative offices in Exton, PA...
We use Intel NIC, Intel Processor, and MSI Boards on the P4 and PIII, The IBM is intel and IBM... PIII and P4 have Wester Digital 7,200 RMP drives.
Originally posted by panopticon
Very Nice Offer
May I ask a couple questions:
1.) What data center are you in? Could you provide a few pictures?
2.) What is the hardware used? Motherboard manufacturer?
webreseller 04-11-2002, 08:48 AM We own our Data Center and are nor a reseller. We have been in the internet industry since about 1995-96.
Originally posted by twrs
Nice questions, panopticon! I'd also like to ask the same questions :D
This is a very nice deal but I would like to get more information about webreseller. Are you a new or a well-established company? Do you own your own datacenter? Are you a reseller?
The Laughing Cow 04-11-2002, 08:50 AM This looks very promising, I see they are not your average host who is there 5 minutes and then disappears with your money.
How long do you expect this offer to last?
Do you have any lower spec offers about at all? (Even though I am sure you can't get much cheaper)
boing 04-11-2002, 09:06 AM I have been using Webreseller for about 3.5 months and they have been great. Quick answers to support queries and no downtime.
8) 8)
hope this helps
Scott
The Laughing Cow 04-11-2002, 09:20 AM From your site, am I right in saying these are unmanaged,managed or semi-managed? It looks like the ones on your site are all managed of some way.
webreseller 04-11-2002, 09:23 AM They are all managed to a degree. We handle all security patches and fixes for you.. In addition we give you support
Originally posted by The Laughing Cow
From your site, am I right in saying these are unmanaged,managed or semi-managed? It looks like the ones on your site are all managed of some way.
Dedicated 04-11-2002, 09:39 AM What's the uptime guarantee?
Dedicated 04-11-2002, 09:44 AM I know the offer is not for Windows but I am willing to pay $50 extra per month for Windows server?
webreseller 04-11-2002, 09:45 AM 99.9999% Network Uptime
Originally posted by Dedicated
I know the offer is not for Windows but I am willing to pay $50 extra per month for Windows server?
webreseller 04-11-2002, 09:48 AM I am sorry, but we only offer Windows in our SCSI series of servers..
Originally posted by Dedicated
I know the offer is not for Windows but I am willing to pay $50 extra per month for Windows server?
Dedicated 04-11-2002, 09:50 AM How much would charge for Cpanel/whm rather than Ensim 3.0
webreseller 04-11-2002, 09:55 AM Cpanel is not a supported product at this time. If you wish to get, ceratinly we could do an install, however we would not be able to support it for you... We are currently supporting Ensim, and very soon Plesk...
Originally posted by Dedicated
How much would charge for Cpanel/whm rather than Ensim 3.0
I have ordered my P-3 1 GHz today at 9:25 GMT+2.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon. If everything runs smoothly, we will be ordering 4 more servers next week.
By the way, excellent offer, webreseller.
Daniel
boing 04-11-2002, 09:57 AM is it possible to migrate from Webppliance LS to these dedicated servers?
do these dedicated servers have support ASP?
Dedicated 04-11-2002, 09:58 AM I will sign soon .............. and hope everything works fine.
Dedicated 04-11-2002, 10:57 AM I have ordered my P-3 1 GHz today .... ;)
Aussie Bob 04-11-2002, 11:17 AM 450 Gig Transfer / 60 GIG - 7,200 RMP HD / Intel 10/100 NIC / Ensim Unlimited License / 16 IP Addresses / 512 MB
FREE 10 Account Billing & Manger System
$249.00 Setup / $139.00 Per Month
Am I missing something? :eek: This seems too good to be true. These are *nix boxes, aren't they??
webreseller 04-11-2002, 11:20 AM You are not missing a thing.. :)
Originally posted by Aussie Bob
Am I missing something? :eek: This seems too good to be true. These are *nix boxes, aren't they??
Aussie Bob 04-11-2002, 11:25 AM Originally posted by webreseller
You are not missing a thing.. :)
Very nice offer. You have more than met the market. :)
richy 04-11-2002, 11:44 AM could you please reiterate your response regarding yipes filling for bankruptcy. its a great offer and seems to pan out perfectly apart from this one issue. your thoughs \ contingency plans would be most welcomed. im not asking for anything confidential just your opinion on the situation and what you plan to do should the worst happen. great offer and best wishes in business.
edit : could you also please look into ensim ras \ server exchange as it would allow ensim to easily have resellers and those resellers have resellers etc. its a useful product and there is demand for it. if you get chance chat to your rep. thanks again
Aussie Bob 04-11-2002, 11:52 AM Originally posted by webreseller
You are not missing a thing.. :)
Very nice offer. You have more than met the market. :)
The Laughing Cow 04-11-2002, 11:54 AM I know this may not sound good but there just seems something too good here. Like they say if it's too good to be true it usually isn't. I don't wish to knock webreseller but it just doesn't seem financialy viable so I am concerned to put my money up.
cabalstudios 04-11-2002, 12:25 PM To answer the Yipes question, yes they have filed a Chapter 11 for bankruptcy in March 2002, more details below.
http://www.theneteconomy.com/article/0,3658,s=902&a=24965,00.asp
http://www.clec-planet.com/news/03march2002/25yipes.html
pobox300 04-11-2002, 12:35 PM Any time period on when you expect Plesk in? Also what would be the price of Plesk if you were to offer it.
One last question. How much for just the box with RH 7.2 installed, or FreeBSD? I might look at Webmin as well, as it is for very few sites that require hosting, so it would be for personal use for the most part. Do you have, or would you still offer a remote reboot?
Thanks in advance.
Of Topic:
As for the person mentioning DV2. I sat for almost 2 weeks waiting for a server through them from one of the regular posters on this forum who happens to go under tranxactglobal.com. Didn't mind taking my money first, but thought a vacation was okay before my paid server was online. Got my money back now, so I guess it doesn't make much difference, but if you think they are operating to the likes of everyone, think again, more than one person got caught recently with their form of customer service. If you have any doubts, visit their own forum on their site and read the ones that are still sitting waiting. :rolleyes:
webreseller 04-11-2002, 12:53 PM Yipes did declare voluntary bankruptcy, however, their financials were still very strong and we among many others are confident they will come out of it. Many item have already been cleared with them. The reason behind everything in a nutshell was to protect their current customers from a vendor that was not performing up to par but could cause harm...
Originally posted by richy
could you please reiterate your response regarding yipes filling for bankruptcy. its a great offer and seems to pan out perfectly apart from this one issue. your thoughs \ contingency plans would be most welcomed. im not asking for anything confidential just your opinion on the situation and what you plan to do should the worst happen. great offer and best wishes in business.
edit : could you also please look into ensim ras \ server exchange as it would allow ensim to easily have resellers and those resellers have resellers etc. its a useful product and there is demand for it. if you get chance chat to your rep. thanks again
webreseller 04-11-2002, 12:55 PM Plesk is about a week out, we are finishing up some details with Plesk. We will perform reboots for you and the system is the same price with or without the ensim system. If you wish to change the package you can IM me directly.
Originally posted by pobox300
Any time period on when you expect Plesk in? Also what would be the price of Plesk if you were to offer it.
One last question. How much for just the box with RH 7.2 installed, or FreeBSD? I might look at Webmin as well, as it is for very few sites that require hosting, so it would be for personal use for the most part. Do you have, or would you still offer a remote reboot?
Thanks in advance.
Of Topic:
As for the person mentioning DV2. I sat for almost 2 weeks waiting for a server through them from one of the regular posters on this forum who happens to go under tranxactglobal.com. Didn't mind taking my money first, but thought a vacation was okay before my paid server was online. Got my money back now, so I guess it doesn't make much difference, but if you think they are operating to the likes of everyone, think again, more than one person got caught recently with their form of customer service. If you have any doubts, visit their own forum on their site and read the ones that are still sitting waiting. :rolleyes:
Webreseller, I have a few more questions:
- do you have plan to add another carrier to backup Yipes?
- is this Yipes connection multi-homed with BGP4 to ensure redundancy?
- is the price guaranteed (price freeze)?
- how long do you plan to offer this nice deal?
franklo 04-11-2002, 02:13 PM Hi,
What is the max RAM the server can take?
How many hard drives can it accept?
How much does an extra HD (60 GB) cost? How about extra 512 MB RAM and 1 GB RAM?
Thanks
Frank
CWDHost.com 04-11-2002, 02:53 PM This may have been asked and if it was I am blind to that fact
you answered it :D
How much for additional IP's if any cost at all?
Regards,
Ray
webreseller 04-11-2002, 04:47 PM P4 Can go to 1.5 Gig and the PIII Max is 512. The P4 you can have 2 drives. Currently we are offering a second drive with raid 1 for an additional $90.00 Setup and $25.00 a month...
Additional 512 on P4 is $30.00 a month
Originally posted by franklo
Hi,
What is the max RAM the server can take?
How many hard drives can it accept?
How much does an extra HD (60 GB) cost? How about extra 512 MB RAM and 1 GB RAM?
Thanks
Frank
universal2001 04-11-2002, 05:04 PM do you have an ICQ/AIM/Yahoo/MSN contact number??
franklo 04-11-2002, 05:11 PM Hi,
I prefer one time charge for RAM or HD. Are you able to provide that? If so plaese state prices for RAM/HD
Thanks
Frank
wow, looks like these are selling fast, (from your site)
is this a special offer, or is this you're regular pricing from now on...?:confused:
BiGWill 04-11-2002, 05:15 PM well, i like your offer very much and you're response here is quiet fast, but what i did notice, is, that you answer all questions, except the long question list about carriers/multi-homed etc.
weird.
as far as I know they are using yipes, and I know that they are very reliable
webreseller 04-11-2002, 05:55 PM It was answered in another, currently now we have Yipes that offers us redundancy in many areas. Additional carriers will be brought on shortly... Sorry about the delay in response...
Originally posted by BiGWill
well, i like your offer very much and you're response here is quiet fast, but what i did notice, is, that you answer all questions, except the long question list about carriers/multi-homed etc.
weird.
Choppy 04-11-2002, 06:13 PM Nice offer!
Start to Support Cpanel i dont mind an extra charge and i will get a server asap.
Thank you!
BiGWill 04-11-2002, 06:17 PM Originally posted by webreseller
It was answered in another, currently now we have Yipes that offers us redundancy in many areas. Additional carriers will be brought on shortly... Sorry about the delay in response...
no problem, thanks for your answer! :)
webreseller 04-11-2002, 06:59 PM We can work with you on this, please send IM..
Originally posted by Choppy
Nice offer!
Start to Support Cpanel i dont mind an extra charge and i will get a server asap.
Thank you!
webreseller 04-11-2002, 07:00 PM Yes, we are using Yipes and they have proven to be fantastic thus far.. In the last year they have been down for not more then 5, maybe 10 minutes...
Originally posted by 311
as far as I know they are using yipes, and I know that they are very reliable
Dedicated 04-11-2002, 07:24 PM How soon can you get the server online ......... !
webreseller 04-11-2002, 08:15 PM ALL servers are setup manualy to be sure they are perfect when they are given to the customer. Any orders that have gone through today will be done tomorrow....
panopticon 04-11-2002, 08:16 PM currently now we have Yipes that offers us redundancy in many areas.
I don't mean to press you on this, but I think if you could expand on this statement a little more it would make many people feel even better about this offer. How exactly does Yipes offer you redundancy and what does "in many areas" mean?
webreseller 04-11-2002, 08:40 PM No problem at all, what I meant was we have fiber coming directly into our office and from here it goes to the ring... From that point it goes North and South directly into 401 North Broad (Peering Point) at that point we connect with Level 3, UUNET, Genuity).. Does this help a little better...
Originally posted by panopticon
I don't mean to press you on this, but I think if you could expand on this statement a little more it would make many people feel even better about this offer. How exactly does Yipes offer you redundancy and what does "in many areas" mean?
WebmastersHost 04-11-2002, 09:28 PM At your site I notice that the "Pentium 4 Power | $249.00 Setup / $139.00 Per Month" server offers "10 ACCOUNT RESELLER BILLING & AUTOMATION SUITE"
? Is this the RAS package mentioned on the Ensim website?
? What price for additional packages of the "RESELLER BILLING & AUTOMATION SUITE"?
? Can these reseller packages have their own nameservers?
? Are these reseller package's control panels skinnable?
? Will these servers be moved to your new data center when it is available?
All for now, thanks.
ckevin 04-11-2002, 10:14 PM webreseller, what's your AIM sn? I want to IM you for some questions I had.
Thanks!
westsideny 04-11-2002, 11:12 PM Support has been great so far... 7 questions, 7 quick answers...
Everyday 04-12-2002, 12:24 AM I have to put a nice word in here for everyone at webreseller. They have helped us many, many times and have excellent support. I highly recommend them.
pobox300 04-12-2002, 02:50 AM Hell I'd recommend them for putting up with every post that is on this thread, especially my own useless questioning.;) However with that said, I'll wait for your Plesk plans, being the pain in the ass that I am. :D
panopticon 04-12-2002, 05:56 AM We own our Data Center and are nor a reseller. We have been in the internet industry since about 1995-96.
I notice that WEBRESELLER.NET was registered with network solutions in 2000. Is there a site for Advanced Web Hosting & Design - just curious to find out more about you...
thesmallguyshost 04-12-2002, 08:33 AM Originally posted by webreseller
It was answered in another, currently now we have Yipes that offers us redundancy in many areas. Additional carriers will be brought on shortly... Sorry about the delay in response...
Please explain how a single provider, Yipes, offers redundancy in many areas? You mean THEY have a backup of their own? Who is their backup? And by saying in many areas, that means some users will be down completely when Yipes is down, correct?
thesmallguyshost 04-12-2002, 08:38 AM Originally posted by webreseller
No problem at all, what I meant was we have fiber coming directly into our office and from here it goes to the ring... From that point it goes North and South directly into 401 North Broad (Peering Point) at that point we connect with Level 3, UUNET, Genuity).. Does this help a little better...
You're still being evasive on the exact connections you have.... so does this mean that if Yipes is down, you have BGP4 that will continue running with no downtime on Level 3, UUNET and Genuity?
If this is so, how can your price point plan to pay for that much bandwidth on these other providers if Yipes is down?
And I know for a fact Yipes has had more than 10 mins of downtime in the last 12 consecutive months.
webreseller 04-12-2002, 09:31 AM There is not a site for Advanced Web Hosting & Design, Inc., the reason for this is Anonymity... We are pleased to furnish customers any information they need. When you perform an IP lookup through ARIN it will go to Advanced Web Hosting and Design, Inc. and not webreseller.net so there can be a higher degree of reseller front line as we like to call it. AWHD is our parent company.
Originally posted by panopticon
I notice that WEBRESELLER.NET was registered with network solutions in 2000. Is there a site for Advanced Web Hosting & Design - just curious to find out more about you...
webreseller 04-12-2002, 09:35 AM Originally posted by ccreighton
At your site I notice that the "Pentium 4 Power | $249.00 Setup / $139.00 Per Month" server offers "10 ACCOUNT RESELLER BILLING & AUTOMATION SUITE"
Yes, you can also find our more about the RAS by visting http://webreseller.net/rfauto.htm if you need more please let us know.
? Is this the RAS package mentioned on the Ensim website?
The next move is to the 25, 50, 100, & 500 accounts, the max it can get to is $195.00 per month.
? What price for additional packages of the "RESELLER BILLING & AUTOMATION SUITE"?
All reseller packages get there own name servers.. :)
? Can these reseller packages have their own nameservers?
Skins are on there way soon, you can change the logo and colors.
? Are these reseller package's control panels skinnable?
Yes, everything will be moved to the data center, at the most when the move takes place a customer would be down for 5 - 10 minutes. This will be done in the early morning hours and all customers will be notified.
? Will these servers be moved to your new data center when it is available?
Hope this helps....
All for now, thanks.
webreseller 04-12-2002, 09:36 AM I have emailed you a much more detailed overview.
Originally posted by rastoma
You're still being evasive on the exact connections you have.... so does this mean that if Yipes is down, you have BGP4 that will continue running with no downtime on Level 3, UUNET and Genuity?
If this is so, how can your price point plan to pay for that much bandwidth on these other providers if Yipes is down?
And I know for a fact Yipes has had more than 10 mins of downtime in the last 12 consecutive months.
webreseller 04-12-2002, 09:40 AM AIM = webreseller
Originally posted by ckevin
webreseller, what's your AIM sn? I want to IM you for some questions I had.
Thanks!
Originally posted by webreseller
I have emailed you a much more detailed overview.
Could you please pm or email me as well with the detailed overview? Thanks in advance.
choon 04-12-2002, 10:06 AM Hi,
Please see my question in the subject line ;)
Thanks.
Kindest regards,
Choon
Originally posted by webreseller
I have emailed you a much more detailed overview.
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Originally posted by rastoma
You're still being evasive on the exact connections you have....
OK Folks, This should be taken as a !! WARNING !!
Numerous times WEBRESELLER has been asked to define what backup routes they have in addition to YIPES. Do Explain what BGP4 is being used. They have "Not" answered that question!
They are still being EVASIVE!! Ask yourself Why?
Now, when being PRESSED on the point, they send a more detailed overview via Private PM.
If their route backups are something to be proud of....Why do they REFUSE to discuss them in Open?
Sounds like they have a single line connection to YIPES and YIPES is multi connected and that is what they call Redundancy. What happens if Bubba and his backhoe strikes outside their datacenter and cuts that main feed from YIPES ?
webreseller 04-12-2002, 10:42 AM If Bubba the Backhoe cuts the connection, within a half second it reverses the direction and goes the other way. We are only about 100 feet from the ring. If it gets cut somewhere else, once again, it reverses itself. The fiber is burried deep and it would take a lot to cut it (although a backhoe could), but even at that, it would reverse direction. We have mentioned many times, we use Yipes becuase of the way they offer our redundancy. In the last year we have been down for no more then 5-10 minutes. Our new data center will have a second carrier brought in and we are finalizing who that will be and will let everyone know once a final decision has been made....
QUOTE]Originally posted by Grok
OK Folks, This should be taken as a !! WARNING !!
Numerous times WEBRESELLER has been asked to define what backup routes they have in addition to YIPES. Do Explain what BGP4 is being used. They have "Not" answered that question!
They are still being EVASIVE!! Ask yourself Why?
Now, when being PRESSED on the point, they send a more detailed overview via Private PM.
If their route backups are something to be proud of....Why do they REFUSE to discuss them in Open?
Sounds like they have a single line connection to YIPES and YIPES is multi connected and that is what they call Redundancy. What happens if Bubba and his backhoe strikes outside their datacenter and cuts that main feed from YIPES ? [/QUOTE]
webreseller 04-12-2002, 10:43 AM We can accept Pay-Pay if that makes it easier, please contact billing at webreseller.net and they can send you the form.
Originally posted by choon
Hi,
Please see my question in the subject line ;)
Thanks.
Kindest regards,
Choon
choon 04-12-2002, 10:53 AM Originally posted by webreseller
We can accept Pay-Pay if that makes it easier, please contact billing at webreseller.net and they can send you the form.
Thanks and do you have ICQ? What is your ICQ# if you have?
Regards,
Choon
Originally posted by webreseller
If Bubba the Backhoe cuts the connection, within a half second it reverses the direction and goes the other way. We are only about 100 feet from the ring. If it gets cut somewhere else, once again, it reverses itself. The fiber is burried deep and it would take a lot to cut it (although a backhoe could), but even at that, it would reverse direction. We have mentioned many times, we use Yipes becuase of the way they offer our redundancy. In the last year we have been down for no more then 5-10 minutes. Our new data center will have a second carrier brought in and we are finalizing who that will be and will let everyone know once a final decision has been made....
Does the ring run through your facility or do you just have a 100 feet connection to the ring? In other words, do you have dual entry?
If not, being only 100 feet away from the ring is still good... You'd just have to keep a loaded shotgun around in case Bubba get's between your building and the Fiber Ring.
Will that 2nd carrier be brought in via the same cable drop? If so and they don't lay new fiber (away from current run), you could have 10+ carriers and Bubba would still knock your service out with one scoop.
Your Offers look Great, and I'm sure that you will be Very Successful. Best of luck to you!
webreseller 04-12-2002, 11:03 AM LOL, We have no shotguns laying around, but I like the way you put that... First good laugh of the day (thank you) :)...
There is single entry now, but new data center will have dual entry.
The new carrier will have a different drop and we will have BGP running.
Bubba seems to be very clumsy... LOL :)
TuxVSP 04-12-2002, 11:22 AM I must say, I am very impressed with webresller sales/billing and support staff. The service and price are just what I was looking for. I would advise anyone who is looking for a good company with a cheep price to go with webreseller.net
Originally posted by webreseller
There is single entry now, but new data center will have dual entry.
The new carrier will have a different drop and we will have BGP running.
Bubba seems to be very clumsy... LOL :)
Sounds like you have already given this a lot of thought. Your single entry issue is not really a big problem since it's a short distance to the ring. When you finally have Dual entry, you'll really be a Pain in the RS concept.
Bubba is real clumsy, but you shouldn't worry much. He live in my area!
The Laughing Cow 04-12-2002, 11:25 AM Everything is making me really want to sign, I have spoke to webreseller on AIM and the person was friendly and answered questions to what I asked. I also like the fact that they semi-manage the server for you.
I would like to send some business to webreseller in the next few months if they have some further offers.
mpjetta 04-12-2002, 12:12 PM As would I. I am in the market for a dedicated 10mbit line in a few weeks so keep up the good work webreseller and I wil have some business for you down the line assuming the prices/service are still going to be top notch. :-)
WebmastersHost 04-12-2002, 02:55 PM Also...
Is there any cost for additional IPs? Thank you.
webreseller 04-12-2002, 03:08 PM We charge a $1.00 fee for additional IP / per month after the first 16.. Arin Guidlines Apply...
pobox300 04-12-2002, 04:44 PM webreseller,
Could you PM me when you get servers up with Plesk, or a good CPanel deal. I had a CPanel reseller offer me $75 for it that doesn't have to be located on their servers.
Thanks.
webreseller 04-12-2002, 04:54 PM Yes, I will be more then happy to send you something, it is looking like next week... Becuase of the overwhelming demand for C-Panel we are looking into it....
pobox300 04-12-2002, 05:01 PM Great thanks for the reply and look forward to do business together.
If I get setup for the second plan now.....can I upgrade the ram and add a second harddrive later if I need to?
webreseller 04-12-2002, 05:12 PM Well, the RAM is no problem at all... The drive however I belive if we add a second drive with Raid could create some problems, I would suggest getting the Second Drive with Raid 1 now...
We will work with you with whatever you choose... :)
Originally posted by ALS
If I get setup for the second plan now.....can I upgrade the ram and add a second harddrive later if I need to?
panopticon 04-12-2002, 05:36 PM I found the cs@webreseller.net email address on their website and emailed it yesterday night as a test, but as of today at 5:30 PM I still have not received any reply. Hmmm...
webreseller 04-12-2002, 05:41 PM If you mailed it to CS there should have been a reply, please email to sales@webreseller.net. There should be no reason why you would not have received a response, I know we are getting rid of a few e-mail account to add a customer forum and new sales and service desk....
This will be looked into right away... SHould you have any problems please email me diretly at rob@webreseller.net.
mpjetta 04-12-2002, 05:54 PM webreseller:
Do you allow legal adult content on these servers?
webreseller 04-12-2002, 06:28 PM It must be legal content.. Yes
Originally posted by mpjetta
webreseller:
Do you allow legal adult content on these servers?
universal2001 04-12-2002, 09:33 PM hmmm $24 setup fee for IP address is too much.... + $1/mo for each IP...
Im currently deciding whether to choose yours over Rackshacks offer...
Pentium 4m 1.7ghz
2x 60gb Hard drives
1GB RAM
600GB transfer
$129/mo..
can you offer any discounts on those IP addresses?
Also.. how much for additional bandwidth???
webreseller 04-12-2002, 09:40 PM Special rates can be worked out for IP's, however, we must keep with all the ARIN Guidelines...
WebmastersHost 04-12-2002, 10:20 PM Originally posted by webreseller
Special rates can be worked out for IP's, however, we must keep with all the ARIN Guidelines...
Is it possible to publicly disclose what 'Special rates' you are willing to commit to? Thank you.
webreseller 04-12-2002, 10:23 PM We will work with customers, if they are going to be doing a large number in accordance with ARIN Guidelines then we can discount the rate and setup... It's different in any case, but depending on volume we will go to .50 and reduce the setup...
universal2001 04-12-2002, 11:15 PM how much per additional GB of transfer?? This has been asked 3 times with no replies....
Aussie Bob 04-12-2002, 11:43 PM Do you have any pricing for Cpanel/WHM? I'd take one of those P4, 1GB RAM boxes asap with CPanel/WHM. :)
westsideny 04-13-2002, 03:02 AM Once again, another support question and response within 30 minutes. I made a mistake and change a few things in the httpd and broke the WebAppliance and they fixed it.. The did say that this is not normally covered, but they were more then happy to fix it. Class act... THANK YOU WEBRESELLER, I am very glad I chose you guys
NEMON 04-13-2002, 03:55 AM webreseller,
I send you a email, but still not replay. Please send me the info where I can send email to get quote for the specific configuration.
Best regards,
Ivan
webreseller 04-13-2002, 01:14 PM Additional transfer is $2.00 Per GIG, packages can be woked out based on useage though....
webreseller 04-13-2002, 01:15 PM If you have a custom confiduration you would like please send an email to sales@webreseller.net with exactly what you need and we can work up a price for you. We have done this quite a bit for people.
webreseller 04-13-2002, 01:19 PM Aussie,
We have had a huge demand for Cpanel so we are looking into this.
Originally posted by Aussie Bob
Do you have any pricing for Cpanel/WHM? I'd take one of those P4, 1GB RAM boxes asap with CPanel/WHM. :)
Aussie Bob 04-13-2002, 10:20 PM Originally posted by webreseller
Aussie,
We have had a huge demand for Cpanel so we are looking into this.
Thanks webreseller. BTW, congratulations on a great offer that more than meets the market. :)
Yes it does Aussie Bob ....... :)
They are very helpfully as well......and what I have been reading great support in most cases.
Matrix 04-14-2002, 01:32 AM Is Tech Support 24x7?
If so by what methods?
When do you expect to have the second bandwidth provider?
WebmastersHost 04-14-2002, 01:35 AM I'll add my vote on WHM/CPanel.
universal2001 04-14-2002, 02:15 AM another vote for cpanel/whm.....
Pinocchi 04-14-2002, 04:54 AM Well I can say that Webreseller is very helpfull with my hosting needs. ;)
Only thing I'm waiting on now are my account details.
Webreseller, I've send you a PM with the latest details you needed.
Thanks,
Erik
Dedicated 04-14-2002, 05:22 AM webreseller have been very helpful so far with everything. I am very pleasesI signed with them and I would be more than pleased if they have Cpanel
That would make(adding CPanel/WHM)these packages so sweet..... :)
Adding CPanel/WHM could do nothing but help their business I'm for it as well.
MattG 04-14-2002, 11:02 AM Wow... good offer.
Best of luck..
I notice on your web site that the P3 and IBM servers are all sold out. When will the next batch of servers be coming?
pobox300 04-14-2002, 12:08 PM I like the idea of CPanel/WHM as well, but I'd like to see the price on it first. CPanel has their own distribution system, and if you aren't a reseller for them you're looking at $99 a month, which to me is a bit high. I did have a private offer from a person for CPanel for $75, which would seem more realistic to me, but this person wasn't interested in having their name passed around as they are a CPanel reseller and other resellers might get ticked by the price. I mention the price issue because it seems to me that in order to be a CPanel reseller, you are looking at about 100 licenses to get the price down (don't quote me on this, it's just what I read on another thread), and that might not be in webresellers budget, but if it is great, and I'll sign up for it as well.
Originally posted by twrs
I notice on your web site that the P3 and IBM servers are all sold out. When will the next batch of servers be coming?
they told me monday...;)
Yes sometime on Monday both packages will be available again thats what I was told... :)
I never used Ensim....but from I read and looked at its like Plesk somewhat. The only thing I don't like is subdomain setup you have to set them up like a full domain. Which could be a plus if you want email and such for you subdomains. The problem is you will have to setup each and everyone for your clients.
But like I said never used Ensim...so there might be another way to set them up.
With all that said CPanel/WHM have their problems too.
William22 04-14-2002, 01:39 PM Hi webreseller!
Top notch deals on your site.
I am looking at the Pentium 3 Power on your webby.
I was thinking of get 2-4 servers with rackshack because of these project 6000 but you are faster then them and cheaper then normal :D
I will be getting my servers with you from now one! I look forward to purchasing servers with you.
Also,
I was thinking about setting up a dedicated server site, how do you feel about reselling servers :D
I think webreseller is taking the day off......today....haven't seen him posting anything...but I could be wrong.
He's the first guy I know of that PM's you back when you see him online to ask a question and answers most everyone who posts a question here.
I guess thats a plus at times......and great for sales.
The Laughing Cow 04-14-2002, 02:26 PM I agree, I was answered on AIM very promptly!
Me ...myself think thats a good thing........if they communicate well ....with you when you're not a client of theirs.....the signs are good they will when you are. :)
indyjon 04-14-2002, 03:54 PM Does anyone know if they are a 24/7/Weekend operation? Sent email last night but they haven't responded yet.
Webreseller? You open today?
Sales and sales info is not 24/7 at least from what I see.....but support is for clients.
Here some info for you: live Sales Chat is from 8:00am est to 9:00pm est Monday through Friday. Same times for Support Chat. Customer Service Chat is only until 5:00pm est Monday through Frirday.
@eggheadz.com 04-15-2002, 12:41 AM Another vote coming in from me on CPanel/WHM!!!!!!!!!
Who ever gets CPanle 1st, i'm going there(out of my 2 choices). But I LOVE your prices. VERY reasonable, and I don't know if I should be feeling this way, but I think i'm in love with WR.
I'm a little weary, my antenna went up when I saw your website and the prices with 450GB of BW.
I'll wait this out a few until CPanel makes its debut at WR, and then you'll defeintely be on my payroll...:cartman:
WOW, I actually have 2 places i'm considering...who's gonna get CPanel 1st...chukka chukka chukka!!!!
Thanks
JE
webreseller 04-15-2002, 12:42 AM We are really looking into it and hope to have a decision this coming week.
I've been monitoring your Yipes network since last week and quite impressed with its speed and stability. Do all traffics of Yipes always come from Level3 as primary? Cause I haven't seen it going thru the Genuity or others.
A few more questions:
- Do you have a long-term contract with Yipes?
- Do you offer APC remote reboot for the servers?
Thanks, so far you seem to be very responsive.
webreseller 04-15-2002, 01:41 AM Level 3 is primary, Genuity is Backup... We currently have a 5 year agreement with yipes. The APC remote botter is certainly something that could be arrange at an additonal fee. Generaly you can reboot through your control panel.. Hope this helps..
Originally posted by twrs
I've been monitoring your Yipes network since last week and quite impressed with its speed and stability. Do all traffics of Yipes always come from Level3 as primary? Cause I haven't seen it going thru the Genuity or others.
A few more questions:
- Do you have a long-term contract with Yipes?
- Do you offer APC remote reboot for the servers?
Thanks, so far you seem to be very responsive.
richy 04-15-2002, 09:03 AM ensim ras \ server exchange or whatever they want to call it. basically offering resellers on ensim and resellers that can have resellers. i notice you mention reseller software limited to 10 accounts. is this ensim ras and how much for unlimited use etc.
webreseller 04-15-2002, 09:07 AM We would have to check into that becuase we do not currently have anyone setup with that, the max we have currently is 500 and that is $195.00 a month, but higher plans are available.
Originally posted by richy
ensim ras \ server exchange or whatever they want to call it. basically offering resellers on ensim and resellers that can have resellers. i notice you mention reseller software limited to 10 accounts. is this ensim ras and how much for unlimited use etc.
richy 04-15-2002, 10:55 AM ah thats excellent. thanks for the reply. i was just wondering if it was a propriatary setup or you were running the ensim ras or serverexchange or whatever. have you got a scale and prices published i.e. 10 - 50 -100 125 250 500? thanks.
webreseller 04-15-2002, 12:35 PM Many customers have requested discounts on volume purchases. We are working on a solution to provide this shortly...
Thank You
Robert Greenawalt
CEO / President
WEBRESELLER.NET
major 04-15-2002, 02:30 PM I know someone asked before, but it wasn't answered, so I'll try instead:
How much are RAM upgrades from 512 MB-1 GB - and another HDD (60 GB) - if paid with ONE TIME fees ?
Also, what is the max amount of RAM these motherboards can take ?
They sure are some great deals :).
richy 04-15-2002, 03:26 PM srry the scale i was referring to was for the reseller package with ensim not the bulk server buying sorry :( altho one time fees on ram and hdd sounds good :) i.e. so we know how much it will cost to offer 20 reseller packages 40 etc
universal2001 04-15-2002, 07:06 PM yea thats what i was interested in too.. one time setup fee...
webreseller 04-15-2002, 07:08 PM We are honestly trying to come up with a one time fee for these upgrades. Storage will never have a one time, but it will be a one time setup and low monthly...
Is there any way one could get FreeBSD installed instead of Red Hat, obviously there would be no Ensim, but maybe plesk or no control panel would also do. This would also be completely unmanaged.
universal2001 04-15-2002, 08:45 PM how about $100 one-time setup fee for 512mb -> 1gb ram on those Pentium 4's?
btw what sort of ram are they?
ECC, DDR, NON-ECC SDRAM, ???
webreseller 04-15-2002, 10:51 PM Free BSD would not be a problem, however, we have not geared the promotion towards that as of yet. We have setup some non-supported Free BSD servers for customers.. Please feel free to email sales@webreseller.net and we can arrange something for you.
Originally posted by jw
Is there any way one could get FreeBSD installed instead of Red Hat, obviously there would be no Ensim, but maybe plesk or no control panel would also do. This would also be completely unmanaged.
webreseller 04-15-2002, 10:53 PM They are using SD-RAM, and if we gave it to you at that rate we would be welll below our cost... We generaly use Crucial RAM beucase we have had very good results with it. You never know, there may be a 1 GIG P4 coming in the not so distant future... Maybe..... :)
Originally posted by universal2001
how about $100 one-time setup fee for 512mb -> 1gb ram on those Pentium 4's?
btw what sort of ram are they?
ECC, DDR, NON-ECC SDRAM, ???
If you did a one time charge for a ram upgrade ...... how much to get to 1gig?
webreseller 04-15-2002, 11:17 PM Since we are not offering yet it would be tough to say.. I do not want to throw a number out there without everything being implemented..
Aussie Bob 04-15-2002, 11:30 PM Any news on CPanel/WHM?
Can you setup resellers under you with your current server software?
Techark 04-15-2002, 11:44 PM a while now, I have found the service to be OK not great but OK.
Mainly the attitude sucks. Response time is normally in 4 hours or so.
My main compliant with them is what I call false advertising. If you look at the reseller plans they offer the cliams of disk space are a bit misleading. For instance the starter reseller package advertises 1 gig of disk space, well you do get that but only 400 hundred meg is saleable the rest is taken up by overhead, so in essence you only get 400 meg. They do not make it very clear.
When quized about it they suggested going to the advanced plan, so I find out that only has 1 gig of saleable space after overhead.
They also advertise that you get manuals and access to webreseller.net/member area well I have signed up and been waiting 3 months and nothing no replies to my emails on these items either. Up time is about 90% even tho they claim 99.99%.
I saw the specials and thought long and hard about it, but with the experience I have had there, I am looking for another place to host my accounts now.
My suggestion look real hard, they talk good on the sales end but the rest is missing.
Alberto 04-16-2002, 12:09 AM Originally posted by Monte
Up time is about 90% even tho they claim 99.99%.
Wow! Why did you stay with them for this long? If uptime has only been 90%.
Anyway, these are dedicated machines, so unless the downtime had something to do with the network it isn't really going to be that much of an issue. Heck if they do the semi-managed dedicated for that price it would be wonderful.
Sorry to hear about your problems, but 90% for over three months. I would have been out of there.
Techark 04-16-2002, 12:15 AM The uptime does seem to be getting better as of late. Only one outage for about 20 mins this month. No explantion why as is normal. But the previous outages were blaimed on a bad routers etc. So yeah you could be facing some network issues.
As I said buyer beware, the deals look really good and I am tempted but instead have decided to move my accounts to a new company.
Alberto 04-16-2002, 12:30 AM Originally posted by Monte
No explantion why as is normal. But the previous outages were blaimed on a bad routers etc. So yeah you could be facing some network issues.
Might be something that might need some more explanation. Thanks for the information, though. I'll keep it in mind.
JBIZ718 04-16-2002, 01:07 AM do you have a domain or something.
Overall for a person with 2 posts to make such claims doesnt really have much credibility.
I have been using them for 2 years and unless your on a different network, uptime remains at 99.999 or whatever.
I wouldnt have stayed with them if it was any different
Joe
Techark 04-16-2002, 01:24 AM but not going to post it till I get my sites moved off their servers.
Just in case. After that I will be happy to post it. BTW noticed you did not post your domain.
;-))
As I said it has gotten better in the last month but when I started out with them they were down at least 10% of the time.
These are just my experiences all I am saying to anyone is investigate and make sure before you purchase.
If you don't believe me then don't, the choice is yours. I have no reason to lie.
Techark 04-16-2002, 01:43 AM but not going to post it till I get my sites moved off their servers.
Just in case. After that I will be happy to post it. BTW noticed you did not post your domain.
;-))
As I said it has gotten better in the last month but when I started out with them they were down at least 10% of the time.
These are just my experiences all I am saying to anyone is investigate and make sure before you purchase.
If you don't believe me then don't, the choice is yours. I have no reason to lie.
JBIZ718 04-16-2002, 01:47 AM my domain is listed in my signature...
Im not sure what server your on, but ive got reports over the last year showing nothin ever close to 10% downtime.
Joe
Matrix 04-16-2002, 02:20 AM Monte,
I haven't used them but the fact that they are evasive and don't answer all questions makes me wonder.
Techark 04-16-2002, 03:11 AM Joe
You state..."You have been with them for 2 years now." but when I go to your web site you show that you have your own data center, offer dedicated and reseller accounts.
Do you resell their services? Why do you have your own data center?
Monte
webreseller 04-16-2002, 09:22 AM Aussie,
Version 3.1 of Ensim will allow this.. This is only about 30 Days away... Actually only about 25, be we are playing ot safe.. :)
Originally posted by Aussie Bob
Any news on CPanel/WHM?
Can you setup resellers under you with your current server software?
Will that be a free upgrade to version 3.1 ??
ckevin 04-16-2002, 09:34 AM Originally posted by ALS
Will that be a free upgrade to version 3.1 ??
I really hope so as I have a server from them :D
webreseller 04-16-2002, 09:46 AM Monte,
I have searched all your tickets and there has neever been an emergency ticket that has been answered slowly and all your other tickets covered in support have all be answered within about an hour. I have checked our logs and I have also had Yipes pull reports prior to answering this question and there is ni finding of us being down 10% , for that matter, there is no record of even .50 %... The only time we were down and it is clearly listed on another post and in our help secetion is when we did a firware upgrade...
The Reseller accounts are ny NO means false advertising... I distintly remember speaking with you "I was able to look up name Monte", and told you prior to the sale you get 1 GIG of Raw storage. In the 1 gig we install RedHat 7.1, and furthermore you were informed that red hat will take up about 300 or so MB.
We are offering 100% dedicated servers Monte, that is VERY different from a reseller account and falls into a totaly different category. If we are saying someone gets a 60 GIG drive and when we load RedHat 7.0 and it goes down by 300 MB have we lied ??? According to what you are saying we should hand over a service to a customer with no OS...
We are not being evasive about any questions here, all questions in this post and every post have been answered. I wanted to do some research prior to replying to your questions becuase if you were down 10% of the time, we would have no problem saying in an open Forum that yes we were down if we were, but we were not. There may have been problems with your machine.
Originally posted by Monte
a while now, I have found the service to be OK not great but OK.
Mainly the attitude sucks. Response time is normally in 4 hours or so.
My main compliant with them is what I call false advertising. If you look at the reseller plans they offer the cliams of disk space are a bit misleading. For instance the starter reseller package advertises 1 gig of disk space, well you do get that but only 400 hundred meg is saleable the rest is taken up by overhead, so in essence you only get 400 meg. They do not make it very clear.
When quized about it they suggested going to the advanced plan, so I find out that only has 1 gig of saleable space after overhead.
They also advertise that you get manuals and access to webreseller.net/member area well I have signed up and been waiting 3 months and nothing no replies to my emails on these items either. Up time is about 90% even tho they claim 99.99%.
I saw the specials and thought long and hard about it, but with the experience I have had there, I am looking for another place to host my accounts now.
My suggestion look real hard, they talk good on the sales end but the rest is missing.
webreseller 04-16-2002, 09:51 AM Upgrade will NOT add any additional cost onto your monthly fee, but there will be a very minimal one time upgrade fee as it can take from 10 minutes to several hours to perform..
Ok thanx I figured as much.....
JBIZ718 04-16-2002, 10:01 AM Actually Monte
Well...We do not resell for them.
We also use a datacenter in dallas where we place servers.
Colocation is a wonderful tool....
In any event, you come here and flame this company, you dont state your domain name, any factual information, and you dont back it up. That really isnt exceptable.
Webreseller has been very good to me over the last 2 years. I can either pick up the phone or email support at any time and always get a response. I know this because any questions i have believe me i ask or have asked. On top of this I maintain a need for high uptime as everyone else does. 90% doesnt cut it for me, and at no point ever have they been anywhere close to that. They do maintain the highest level of uptime, this is also listed on there site 99.99999999999999999999999999999% or whatever.
This offer levels the playin field, and from following this post it seems they have answered almost all questions ever asked, I dont see them being evasive, there are ways to directly contact them via there chat.
It bothers me when companies do this type of thing. New to the forum, slam a company and dont offer facts. To be honest this is a ad here, this shouldnt even have been braught up. Start a different post or something.
Hopefully the post will get back on track
Just my 2 cents
Joe
As a possible new client.....I wouldn't listen to the guy unless he stated some facts.....number which makes me not believe him is his down time.....if I was with a host and they advertized 99.9% uptime and all i got was 90% I'm sure would have left them or at least complained a few times and then left.
He leaves no domain name and so on......just someone you can't trust or listen to. Hey all hosts have problems.......
Techark 04-16-2002, 10:13 AM before I signed up and told me that I did not get a full gig of disk space believe me I would never have signed up with you for $79.95 if you had. Everything presale was done over email.
I have talked to ONE live person ONE time and that was the first month I was with you and the server was down for the 3rd time in less than 3 weeks, I do not know if it was you or not that explained you had a bad router and that you were replacing it before the weekend, also promised me a credit on my next bill which never came. My site was down this Sat you for 20 mins at least, check the support ticket where my PHP and MYSQL did not come back up when the server did. Again no explaination from you or anyone as to why the server went down.
If you spoke to me before I signed up, please produce the email because as I said I have only talked to one person one time and that was when I was feed up with my server being down.
I have no problem with your support replies they have been timely. Your support team has been great.
But I do have a problem when you say 1 gig and I get 400 saleable.
I did calculatons today on that server, my sites currently use 121.9 megs of disk space I have allocated 245 megs, my availabe disk space for sale is 211 megs.. For $79.00 a month? No thanks I have written 6 other resellers today asking if any of them take that kind of overhead off their reseller plans NONE of them do, all of them give you what they advertise.
What about the my.webreseller.net access I have signed up 4 times written 4 emails be glad to post them if you want me to, slience is all I have gotten. What about the manuals you advertise. Only thing I have is Esim help button.
All in all you have not been too bad a host but I do expect to get what advertised and promised from anyone I host with, an outage every once in while is fine, stuff happens. But if you are going to replace a router and take my sites down how hard is it to send me an email letting me know?
webreseller 04-16-2002, 10:14 AM I wish our company could boast a 100% uptime, but we know we can't, Yipes gives us a 99.9999% uptime which allows us to give that to our customers.
Of courser regular maintenance is a must on any network and we perform network upgrades on a regular basis. A couple of months ago we were forced into doing a switch upgrade in the middle of the day which we did not want to do, but we had to... That caused some problems, but ever since then things have been perfect thus far... Well, should I say "Perfect for the hosting industry"... :)
JBIZ718 04-16-2002, 10:23 AM If you have a starter reseller account ie a vps then it is very easy to simply restart both mysql and php by restarting the server.
In regards to scheduled maintence on the network. They had a announcment .
This is a ad post. But based on what u claim , why would you stay if they werent good. There are enough companies to go some where else.
I agree with ALS. IF your not happy leave. I dont really bye what your saying.
Joe
Techark 04-16-2002, 10:31 AM I am leaving them. Just signed up for another server a few minutes ago. I kept most of my accounts at my old server to try them out first, so the trans will not be too bad for me.
As far as the annoucement they forgot to put me on the list. Hey maybe I just came on at a bad time. Maybe they are the greatest thing since sliced bread, but by their own addmission they had problems a few months ago, that just happened to be when I signed up with them so maybe I am left with a bad taste.
Your right I was able to get it back up by restarting the server, my point was it was down again Sat. Your right this is their thread on their sale so I am backing out of here and letting them have it.
BTW the URL is
http://techark.com
Take care and have fun..
Monte Roberts
Then why did you stay...if its just reseller account....if you hate there so much?
Thats funny I talked live everytime I click their live talk help....sometimes there's a wait but I can understand they are helping others.
If you didn't get what you paid for and bad uptime you have left......if they didn't email you back on your complaint(s).
Don't wait until they advertize for d-servers and complain about your resellers account.
Its ok to say they are bad or good the the reasons but now you're getting into more problems you had or have with them...when you be asking them....through their support.
These forums are not a support outlet for webreseller or mainly you to complain to them about a support problem.
If you had given your sites' URL and so forth in your first post.......we would thought you more creditable.....but you didn't.
Well good luck....with your new host.
My last comment on service and pre-sales answering to this subject....so far they have answered almost all of my questions and god knows I can be a royal pain....when it comes to questions.
They explained a longer then usual downtime JBIZ718 even said they sent out an announcement about it.
Not any host can keep downtimes from happening.....but its their communication with clients and would be clients that counts....when any downtimes or questions come up.
I'm pleased so far......and I shall see if I'm still pleased if I decide to become client a long term.
Matrix 04-16-2002, 12:51 PM I'm not going to get into a flame war here but this statement is not true:
"We are not being evasive about any questions here, all questions in this post and every post have been answered"
I'm not going to go back through this whole thread and show you where you haven't answered certain questions. And i'm not the only 1 to point out the evasiveness.
webreseller 04-16-2002, 12:57 PM We would certainly line to know what questions are not being answered, we have nothing to hide and want to give answers to ALL questions..
Alberto 04-16-2002, 01:27 PM Originally posted by Matrix
I'm not going to get into a flame war here but this statement is not true:
"We are not being evasive about any questions here, all questions in this post and every post have been answered"
I'm not going to go back through this whole thread and show you where you haven't answered certain questions. And i'm not the only 1 to point out the evasiveness.
That is ridiculous, how can you make a comment and not back it up? No disprespect, but you can't post a warning about how someone is being evasive and then when questioned state that you have no time.
You might not be the only one, but you have been called to back up your statement.
Webreseller looks very willing to answer anything we have asked of him.
Techark 04-16-2002, 01:45 PM I posted my experiences with webreseller, I should have done it in the other thread on the other board where someone asked about experiences with them. I was wrong for posting it here.
I am sorry.
I do stand by my post and my experience but I picked the wrong thread to do it in.
So lets all let it drop here and let them get on with their business if they need to defend themselves then lets move it to the other forum, not this one.
I say lets let this subject die here and now, if we need to duke it out lets move it to another forum and do it there.
Monte Roberts
The only things webreseller really hasn't answered to the fullist is prices for one charge for second hard drive.....one time price for adding more ram.
My I point out these two things are not included in the three packages webreseller posted to start this thread and don't forget if he was going to add CPanel at a later date....also not part of the packages.
For the second drive......and more ram he did answer they could be addons for an extra monthly fee and they were thinking about adding CPanel.
I looked over the whole thread and webreseller has answer most everyone...if not all.....only things are in question.....but answers were given.
Matrix you need to look over the whole to see for yourself......I do see the questions being asked more then once.
Of course this is a sales forum for specials nothing more....and not a flaming forum.....they(WHT) will soon close this thread for that reason probably. :(
There now its all gone...... :(
webreseller 04-16-2002, 07:02 PM .
Matrix 04-16-2002, 07:40 PM Alberto,
I suggest you read the whole thread again as I'm not going too.
Aussie Bob 04-16-2002, 10:05 PM I'm interested in grabbing one of these boxes but also interested to know why this thread was removed from the Offer's section of the forum. Maybe things degenerated a tad in the last dozen or so posts etc.
You got it Aussie Bob ...... some folks think its best to slam a host in the Advertising Forums. Most of it if not all it that I can see is uncalled for.
But everyone is entitled to their own opinion ....... but not here.
webreseller 04-16-2002, 10:17 PM I must say I am wondering why it is gone... Did not get off track by that much..
mpjetta 04-16-2002, 10:31 PM I don't think it is gone. I believe headsurfer and the WHT people changed the ad forum so that the posts are organized by the orginal post date instead of the most recent post. Therefore, this post wouldn't be bumped up to the top whenever people post a reply, but instead it is probably a few pages back. This was the point of the forum re-organization I believe....correct me if I am wrong please. :-)
You could be right and probably are mpjetta ....I've seen others that way, thinking it was odd then.
Yes I just checked...this thread is on the 3rd page ...... 8th from the bottom. So its still listed.....in "Web Hosting Special Offers".
Thanx mpjetta ....... :)
edude 04-16-2002, 11:35 PM Maybe its because Headsurfer is scared of competition hey? Certainly not the way to run WHT :(
pobox300 04-16-2002, 11:40 PM Originally posted by Hostexp
Maybe its because Headsurfer is scared of competition hey? Certainly not the way to run WHT :(
Maybe yes, maybe no, but it's his forum now, and he can do what he would like. Trust me I'm not a RS fan by far, but I do run some forums and web sites myself, so I know what it is to be in a business, and if I owned this forum I'd want it to pay me back first as well.:rolleyes:
The way of the world.......money that is. :)
Marty 04-17-2002, 06:33 AM Originally posted by Hostexp
Maybe its because Headsurfer is scared of competition hey? Certainly not the way to run WHT :(
I don't think so. This has been requested by the members for sometime so that each ad stays at the top of the list the same amount of time as anybody else, rather than those that can generate conversation get more advertising.
Wismie 04-17-2002, 06:41 AM I sent you a PM, please be as kind to reply ASAP
ckevin 04-17-2002, 07:28 AM just stated the truth, now the forum is sorted by thread title by default, so, if you want to be the first thread, try something like...
"A dedicated P4 Server $139 / Piii $109" :D
Wismie 04-17-2002, 07:50 AM Looks more like they are sorted by creation date and not by last message date
Marty 04-17-2002, 09:23 AM Originally posted by Wismie
Looks more like they are sorted by creation date and not by last message date
Correct!
ckevin 04-17-2002, 09:36 AM why no one believe me? They are sorted by thread title but not by creation date!!! :bawling:
skylab 04-17-2002, 11:48 AM i'm currently waiting for webreseller to get back to an email about some sort of custom box. but, yeah, i'm in nooooo hurry and i'm loving their speed......
go webreseller go
skylab
They have alot orders in it looks like so if they don't get back you by Friday I'd email them again.
or
Catch webreseller here and PM him about it.
skylab 04-17-2002, 12:45 PM thanks als. i would imagine they're quite backed up. what i emailed him about was an order i'll be placing in 1 - 2 months time, so, i'm in no hurry at all and if i do not hear from him within the next week or two, i'll certainly try again.
Your welcome skylab it was probably obvious to begin with....anyhow. :)
WCSWEB 04-17-2002, 03:08 PM Their servers are extremely fast.......
14:49:03 (4.74 MB/s) - `jellyroll.rm' saved [2314873/2314873]
Webreseller, are the new servers coming yet?
Marty 04-17-2002, 04:25 PM Originally posted by ckevin
why no one believe me? They are sorted by thread title but not by creation date!!! :bawling:
Because you are wrong. Currently the second thread down is:
Free hosting for (registered) Canadian non-profit organisations
The third thread is:
PHP4.1.2, MySQL, JSP, C.Panel, IMAP, & 10GB with 99.9% uptime for only $7.99!
And the 10th thread is:
Cheap Colo!!! Cheap bandwidth!!!
Let's see....F, P, C....exactly what kind of alphabetical order is that?
webreseller 04-17-2002, 04:43 PM The new servers will be on on Monday or Tuesday.. Also, sky, I did get your email and I saw you were about 1 month out and we will bet back to you this week.. If that is a problem at all please let me know ASAP and it will expedited, it did not seem like you were in a big rush.. :)
skylab 04-17-2002, 04:50 PM no no no. not at all. take your time. i am not in a big rush.
thanks! looking forward to hearing from you.
WebmastersHost 04-18-2002, 10:57 PM WebReseller...
Any update on your talks/negotiations for WHM/CPanel?
NEMON 04-19-2002, 02:54 AM webreseller
I have send 2 email's to sales@webreseller.net for quote, but still no replay what so ever.
One email was Wed, 17 Apr 2002 17:42:27 and the second was Sat, 13 Apr 2002 19:53:48 (info from my sent mail box)
So, that's alot's of time. Please inform me HOW I can get quote info and I hope this is not usual practice how you replay's on email's.
Best regards,
Ivan Crnkovic
Wismie 04-19-2002, 03:49 AM So you might have your servers next week? Then I might still be interested .... :) Let me know...
wsdhnet 04-19-2002, 09:25 AM I called and left a message, no return call! They must be very busy. Hopefully, we will find out "what is around the corner" very soon.
Anxiously waiting.
John
pvaneyck 04-20-2002, 03:50 PM Hi everyone,
1.) What is the best panel voor resell hosting on a dedicated server i prefer Plesk what you think and why
* Plesk
* Ensim
* CP
2.) is there a site outhere to compare panels
3.) the server advertising Pentium 3 power $125 setup / $109 month is that an dedicated or colocated server
thanks
Pinocchi 04-20-2002, 04:54 PM Hi,
Well have a look at H-Sphere as well. I'm not sure whether it would be the best for a dedicated server. But I know for sure it's one of the best concerning reselling.
Regards,
Erik
I like CPanel.....its more user friendly.....I'm using Ensim at present.....its working rather well so far. I might give Pleask a try from I have read and heard from those using it. :)
After which ...I'll let you know......about all three.
WALoeIII 04-21-2002, 12:51 AM The servers are dedicated, colocated is where you build your own and get it plugged in some where else. You can't offer colocated servers lol. :rolleyes:
Wismie 04-21-2002, 03:51 AM About the control panel, do a search on this forum, you will find that this question has already been discussed many times on this forum. Look also at the "control panels" forum
pvaneyck 04-22-2002, 01:27 PM Hi,
I have send 1 mail to sales@webreseller.net for a question the 20 Apr but no anwser.
I would like the pentium III box advertising
Is there nobody here of webreseller.net ?
Thanks,
Paul
You should email them again .....or go to live sales tomorrow or even phone them.
I'm not sure but I heard all their semi-managed are sold out....heard something about more coming this week...but when you'll have to ask them...if they are even getting more in.
wsdhnet 04-22-2002, 10:44 PM Good luck with that, I phoned quite awhile back and still no return call.
webreseller 04-22-2002, 11:52 PM We are very sorry about the lack of replies through this thread, we had though that the thread had been removed and will be sure to go through all questions on Tueday, April 23rd... As a side note, we have all new featured server coming this week.... Once again we are very sorry about the lack of response...
wsdhnet 04-23-2002, 12:05 AM There was some doubt as to where this thread had gone, but it seems they switched the listings to the thread date. This is still a lively thread as you can tell. many of us are anxiously awaiting further news!
Glad you are back,
John
Originally posted by webreseller
We are very sorry about the lack of replies through this thread, we had though that the thread had been removed and will be sure to go through all questions on Tueday, April 23rd... As a side note, we have all new featured server coming this week.... Once again we are very sorry about the lack of response...
Oh really? Well, I'm still waiting you to reply to my two pms sent last week. Let's see if you can catch them up! :stickout
skylab 04-23-2002, 03:07 AM looking forward to the new specials. i understand you're quite busy.
at the bottom of the thread, click on "subscribe...." and you'll be emailed whenever someone responds to the thread. so, you know to come checkup on it. that might help a tad.
any news on the new data center and/or new connection?
WALoeIII 04-23-2002, 03:25 AM I emailed, VERY interested! Hope to order soon.
webreseller 04-23-2002, 10:26 AM New servers are coming this week and we will be launnching a new and better version of the PIII. This will be posted on the site this coming Thursday... This will be an incredible offer.. It will be more then the current PIII, however..... You have to wait on this one but you will not be dissapointed...
Originally posted by twrs
Webreseller, are the new servers coming yet?
webreseller 04-23-2002, 10:34 AM Paul,
Additional servers will be arriving Today and Tomorrow, however, we have all new specials coming this week that you may like quite a bit...
Robert
Originally posted by pvaneyck
Hi,
I have send 1 mail to sales@webreseller.net for a question the 20 Apr but no anwser.
I would like the pentium III box advertising
Is there nobody here of webreseller.net ?
Thanks,
Paul
Dedicated 04-23-2002, 11:01 AM Would you have Windows Servers?
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