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JedKent
04-09-2002, 07:59 PM
I personally think it's awesome, but I'd like some other peoples' feedback on it... if you guys don't mind.

• Unlimited Space
• Unlimited Data Transfer/Bandwidth
• Perl, CGI, C++, Python, Java (JSP, Servlets), PHP 4.1.2
• Unlimited MySQL (3.23.41), PostgreSQL (7.1.2) Databases
• Unlimited Sub-Domains/Canonical Names
• Your Own Domain Name (http://mysite.com)
• 24/7 FTP, Telnet Access
• Traffic Statistics
• 25 Email Accounts
• Unlimited Email Forwards, Aliases, Autoresponders
• Pre-made CGI Scripts (Counter, Formmail, Guestbook)
• Web-based Control Panel
• Secure Socket Layer (SSL)
• Web-based Email
• eCommerce Software

-Processors running at 1.6 GHZ (1,600 MHZ) and faster.
-1 Gig RAM minimum in each server.
-much more

All of this for just: $50 a month -- which is pretty damn f*cking good for what they're offering. If you want to see the site, check it out here (http://www.performancehosting.net/hosting.php)

Well, let me know what you think! Or... offer me better if you can :cool:

(SH)Saeed
04-09-2002, 08:01 PM
Do yourself a favor and look through this website before you place your order: http://www.unlimband.com/

ToastyX
04-09-2002, 08:02 PM
There's no such thing as unlimited disk space and bandwidth. How much disk space and bandwidth are you REALLY getting? If you don't know, then no, it's not a good deal. Go with someone that doesn't make you play the guessing game.

JedKent
04-09-2002, 08:05 PM
Well who do you suggest then? Because I need a lot of space and bandwidth... mostly for media and forums. Seeing how I'll be running a SquareSoft site (gaming). So... you get the picture.

ToastyX
04-09-2002, 08:37 PM
That is exactly the kind of site you don't want to host on an unlimited host. What is the max you are willing to spend? What features do you really need?

dragonhawk
04-09-2002, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by JedKent
Well who do you suggest then? Because I need a lot of space and bandwidth... mostly for media and forums. Seeing how I'll be running a SquareSoft site (gaming). So... you get the picture.

Why don't you go for a dedicated server or something? Rackshack.net is pretty good for dedicated servers.

Incognito
04-09-2002, 09:34 PM
Odds are he has no plans to place an order....just is trying to advertise his hosting....maybe not...and if not then my apologies....but a newbie with such a post.....ah....we/I are/am so suspicious.

okihost
04-09-2002, 09:53 PM
Now why would anyone pay $50.00 a month for UNLIMITED when you can get them for only .99 cents.. I agree with Incognito I think this might be the latest marketing technique for all the unlimited hosts..

:puke: unlimited

ToastyX
04-09-2002, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Incognito
Odds are he has no plans to place an order....just is trying to advertise his hosting....maybe not...and if not then my apologies....but a newbie with such a post.....ah....we/I are/am so suspicious.

Considering he placed a request in the request forums, I think you owe him an apology. Too many people here are paranoid. Most of the newbies here are really just new.

JedKent
04-10-2002, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by ToastyX
Considering he placed a request in the request forums, I think you owe him an apology. Too many people here are paranoid. Most of the newbies here are really just new.

Thank you. That's correct... hell, I wish I ran a hosting service... but I've never really looked into that.

As ToastyX said, I am new to purchasing hosting. However, I am nowhere near new to webdesign/graphics/etc. So, I just need to find a reliable place to get hosting at. I 'really' need: a few gigs of space, a start of 15gigs of bandwidth a month... but that will soon rise to anywhere near 100gigs. Plus, I need php, mysql, cgi, etc. support. -- Unlimited subdomains, emails, url forwarding, etc.

(I was hosted for free by GSN (Game Squad Network)... but that just didn't work out anymore :(

You may ask: "Why so much space and bandwidth?"... but the answer is simple. I will be running a big SquareSoft (gaming) site, and I will need the space for media files/mp3s/roms/etc., and then the bandwidth for the forums and all of the downloadable files.

I hope this clears some things up... lemme know!

Justice
04-10-2002, 01:11 AM
you'll need a dedicated without question, especially if your forum grows beyond 100+ simultaneous users. You may find cheaper virtual hosts that make promises, but you'll save yourself months of headache by going dedicated now. Just try to get the best deal possible. You should be able to find something for around $100 a month for now.

ToastyX
04-10-2002, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by JedKent


Thank you. That's correct... hell, I wish I ran a hosting service... but I've never really looked into that.

As ToastyX said, I am new to purchasing hosting. However, I am nowhere near new to webdesign/graphics/etc. So, I just need to find a reliable place to get hosting at. I 'really' need: a few gigs of space, a start of 15gigs of bandwidth a month... but that will soon rise to anywhere near 100gigs. Plus, I need php, mysql, cgi, etc. support. -- Unlimited subdomains, emails, url forwarding, etc.

(I was hosted for free by GSN (Game Squad Network)... but that just didn't work out anymore :(

You may ask: "Why so much space and bandwidth?"... but the answer is simple. I will be running a big SquareSoft (gaming) site, and I will need the space for media files/mp3s/roms/etc., and then the bandwidth for the forums and all of the downloadable files.

I hope this clears some things up... lemme know!

Can you describe the media files? What MP3s and ROMs will you be hosting? This may pose a copyright issue. How much are you willing to spend? Are you willing to pay for higher quality service and support or do you want cheap disk space and bandwidth?

JedKent
04-10-2002, 02:14 AM
I only wanna pay around $50 a month. But... if the deal was really really good... maybe I could pay around $75-$100.

As for the MP3 and ROM types... everything is fine. I'll just be having game music MP3's from different SquareSoft games, and older SNES ROM's and such. (As long as I 'say' people must delete the ROM 24 hours after download -- unless they already own the game -- then that's fine).

clemzonguy
04-10-2002, 03:02 AM
I think unlimited bandwidth will be very feasible when we are all connected with fiberoptics soon and bandwidth is moot. In the meantime it can still serve as a soother for some who do not want to worry about going over low quotas for the month and then pay per gigabyte (esp if the alloted amount wasn't a lot to begin with). If you want a simple page (under 5mb) that not a lot of people will visit then initially I wouldn't sweat it unless you are hosting files strictly for downloading. People who push limits ruin it for others and add to bad connotations for marketing terms which I agree are ultimately deceptive and misleading. It's like Quick Trips gasoline being "guaranteed gasoline" when in fact that's only a registered trademark and has nothing to do with what you might get if the gas was bad.

Do you seriously need all those options on an account if you are only hosting files?

ToastyX
04-10-2002, 04:11 AM
Originally posted by JedKent
I only wanna pay around $50 a month. But... if the deal was really really good... maybe I could pay around $75-$100.

As for the MP3 and ROM types... everything is fine. I'll just be having game music MP3's from different SquareSoft games, and older SNES ROM's and such. (As long as I 'say' people must delete the ROM 24 hours after download -- unless they already own the game -- then that's fine).

SNES ROMs are illegal, even if they own the game. Distributing your own SNES ROMs is illegal too. You must be licensed by Nintendo to distribute code that's executable on a Nintendo system. That 24 hour rule is a myth. There is no such rule.

phptalk
04-10-2002, 04:17 AM
Who says unlimited space? Nothing exists like that.

JedKent
04-11-2002, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by clemzonguy
Do you seriously need all those options on an account if you are only hosting files?

Who said I was ONLY hosting files? O_o --read through all of my posts. I'm saying, I just need the space/bandwidth for the files and vbb forums. I will have a full site w/ news/coverage/blah/etc... I don't want to explain everything.

So, yes... I do need all of those options.

tomviolin
04-29-2002, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by clemzonguy
I think unlimited bandwidth will be very feasible when we are all connected with fiberoptics soon and bandwidth is moot.

Hate to break it to you, but I've been hearing for years that we will have "fiberoptics soon". Bottom line: bandwidth is still, and will be for the foreseeable future, a finite and valuable resource. Even if/when "we are all connected with fiberoptics" then people will simply find a way to use all that bandwidth, too (on-demand video, etc).

tagalaxy.net
04-29-2002, 03:50 PM
the 24 hour rule is made up....
SNES emulators are 100% legal...ROM's are illegal unless you own your own copy..
Toasty: Although it hasnt been tested in court yet, owning a backup ROM for a game you own the original cartridge for is perfectly legal.
Original thread poster: Although owning a backup ROM is legal, providing backup ROMs is not.

derek.bodner
04-29-2002, 03:51 PM
I have to advise you against SNES roms, he is correct, they are illegal. While if you own the game you are entitled to have a backup copy (the 24 hr rule is a complete myth), any 'backup copy' on the web is illegally manufactured.

Edgar Figaro
04-29-2002, 04:47 PM
Hmm, if you will be running such a big succesfull site you would get quite some advertising money, so you could afford a dedicated. And if Game Squad hosted you, your site must be pretty big, what's the name of your site?
Just curious:D

WizyWyg
04-29-2002, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by JedKent
I only wanna pay around $50 a month. But... if the deal was really really good... maybe I could pay around $75-$100.

As for the MP3 and ROM types... everything is fine. I'll just be having game music MP3's from different SquareSoft games, and older SNES ROM's and such. (As long as I 'say' people must delete the ROM 24 hours after download -- unless they already own the game -- then that's fine).


Just to let you know that there IS NO 24 hour rule or law. ITs a myth and your website can be shut down for it.
Nintendo has been known to shut-down sites for distribution of roms

And the "must have an original copy" is a myth as well, since ROMS cannot be played on the original system. If you want a copy, you have to make sure it WORKS on the original system (ie a SNES game copy must BE ABLE to play on a SNES sytem) That's why roms will always be illegal. Otherwise you are breaking the DMCA law about backup copying for software (circumventing the copy protection or media protection in order to play on other systems).

If its made for the PC, the backup must be able to be played on the PC.


As for the mp3's however, you are only legally to host 30 seconds of each song. If you post entire mp3's and albums, your site can be hosed for copyright infringement. Allowed by law, its called sampling, but then AGAIN square can sue you still since you are not the legal copyright holder and they can still use it against you since yu didn't have their permission to post it.



If you're going to use the excuse that "well you can't get the songs" , that is bull as well as since i own every FF soundtrack ever made, including hte special edition ones. They are not hard to get.


Looks like you want to get your site shut-down a lot faster than getting it up.

JedKent
04-30-2002, 11:15 AM
Maybe you're right about the ROMS, and maybe even the MP3's... but it doesn't really matter either way.

If it were as big of a deal as you're making it out to be, then EVERY damn Square/FF site wouldn't host FULL MP3's, and sometimes even ROMS.

I know of a ton of sites who break both these supposed 'laws'... yet none of them have had to shut down their site, nor have they gotten in trouble for it.

MuscleCramp
04-30-2002, 03:35 PM
i'm new to the board and I'm not trying to plug my current hosting place.

I host with myhosting.com and they say they offer unlimited bandwidth. I'm not too worried about it because I don't get many hits anyways. I'm lucky to get 1000 page views a month.

Anywho... I'm a bit overwelmed by this place. Wow! So much I want to know and so much I want to ask...

I currenlty have 3 domain names:
1. business
2. client
3. personal

I also have one client as part of my URL (www.me.com/client)

I'm paying US$26.95/month and am starting to think I'm getting the shaft! I get dinged US$4/month for the domain pointers.

I don't know how to go about getting a new host. I'd love to learn PHP and have mySQL, but right now my sites use Access and ASP so I'm going to need that.

I have a headache. I think I'll lay down for awhile and try to let this all sink in. Once I get composed... I'll seek help.

Glad I found this place. Hope you don't think I'm a nut! :eek:

WizyWyg
04-30-2002, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by JedKent
Maybe you're right about the ROMS, and maybe even the MP3's... but it doesn't really matter either way.

If it were as big of a deal as you're making it out to be, then EVERY damn Square/FF site wouldn't host FULL MP3's, and sometimes even ROMS.

I know of a ton of sites who break both these supposed 'laws'... yet none of them have had to shut down their site, nor have they gotten in trouble for it.


just because there are other sites doing it , doesn't make it less illegal. You are still breaking the laws and commiting copyright infringement. All it takes is one complain to your webhoster from a "citizen" , other webspace users on your netblock because your site is bandwidht hogging for all those meida files, or just a schmoe who doesn't like your site to turn you in. It costs money for companies to chase down every fan on the net who posts illegal files. Better to not commit it and last the longest on the net, than be one of those that get wiped out because you just want to "be like the others".

So if someone jumped out the window to commite suicide, are you going to follow? Commiting suicide is illegal in many states, yet people still do it.