xplora03
09-04-2005, 06:03 PM
Anyone tried a services from RegisterFly which is called DropFly. mind to share their story if they can get any domains from them or not?
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![]() | View Full Version : Backordering a domain xplora03 09-04-2005, 06:03 PM Anyone tried a services from RegisterFly which is called DropFly. mind to share their story if they can get any domains from them or not? Thanks 4solutions 09-04-2005, 07:09 PM If it's anything like their ExpireFish backorder service, then the only thing it will do is transfer your money to RegisterFly and you most likely won't get your intended domain name at all. You would do MUCH better with reputable backorder services like Pool, Snapnames, eNom's Club Drop (ClubDrop.com), NameWinner and GoDaddy in that order of effectiveness. The effectiveness of a backorder service is a function of how many registrars they have working with them as partners and their software and servers. When drop time comes, these backorder companies have seconds (really just milli-seconds) to request all the names they have backorders on. The more registrars, then the more registrar lines into the registry. You can see how many each has from: http://www.whois-search.com/deleting/who.php I certainly don't see RegisterFly mentioned at all on that page. I have used ExpireFish in the past and I was able to manually register the domain name I had backordered DAYS after it had expired (not a very good domain name because no else apparently wanted it). When I asked RegisterFly for a refund of my $19.98, they NEVER responded after some five emails. Their backorder services are completely worthless in my opinion. dmaven 09-04-2005, 07:29 PM Never used their dropfly services, although they no longer use enom as they did before. xplora03 09-04-2005, 10:29 PM thank you for your reply, i do appreciated it. I would be more than happy if someone able to provide me a website that able to catch a domain for me for a price that we agree before they start catching it, not like once they get the domain and then put it on auction to everyone and i have to bid in order to win it. It is not very popular domain but once a companies put it on auction then everyone might get interested with that. A refund would be nice if they cannot catch the domain. Thanks again. 4solutions 09-04-2005, 11:41 PM Originally posted by xplora03 I would be more than happy if someone able to provide me a website that able to catch a domain for me for a price that we agree before they start catching it, not like once they get the domain and then put it on auction to everyone and i have to bid in order to win it.Here's the deal. GoDaddy will give you a flat fee of $18.95 and, if they get the domain, then you get it for that flat fee. Only one backorder per domain name at GoDaddy. But, you have to pay up front and GoDaddy has only their three in-house registrars: GoDaddy, BlueRazor and WildWestDomains. If they don't get the domain, then you get to switch the backorder over to another domain name. Face it... with only three domains, if anybody else wants this domain, they're going to get it. Next is NameWinner. You bid up front on the domain (I like their interface the best actually) with a minimum bid of $40.00 (they have some people who started with them when dinosaurs roamed the earth starting at lower bids). But whomever bids the highest at 10:00am Pacific time (Los Angeles time) will get the domain IF NameWinner gets the domain. The good news with NameWinner is that you DON'T pay unless they win the domain name. Then there is ClubDrop. This is a VERY effective system and where I win most of the domains that I go after. But... it gets a little complicated. Whatever amount you bid with ClubDrop is in ADDITION to the registration fee that you pay. And since eNom is a wholesale registrar, that could be anywhere from $6.95 to $29.95. So let's say that we both backorder domains at eNom. I do it through my eNom reseller account at eNom.com and I bid the minimum $15.00 for Domain1.com. You, go to ClubDrop.com, and newly register with an eNom retail registration rate of $29.95. You also bid $15.00 on a different domain, Domain2.com. The good news is that we both win our domains. Only I pay the $15.00 ClubDrop bid + my $6.95 wholesale reseller rate for a total of $21.95. You, on the other hand, would pay the $15.00 ClubDrop bid plus a $29.95 retail registration fee for a total of $44.95. To get $6.95 pricing, you pretty much have to come up with a $6,950 deposit. But you can get an $8.20 retail account from resellers like www.Name123.com which belongs to WHT's mdadnan. You can use this login name and password then at eNom, or ClubDrop and get better pricing than the $29.95 retail they offer. The good news about eNom's ClubDrop is that it is a very cost effective service where you only pay if you get the domain. BUT... it can get complicated. There is a two stage auction process where you bid BEFORE the drop time and then again IF they acquire the domain AND someone else is interested. I'm just going to refer you to their FAQ's: From http://www.clubdrop.com/help/faq_clubdrop.asp#B1 How does the Club Drop bidding process work? Once you have submitted your domain names in your drop list, your list will appear with a section to place your bids on each domain. You must place a bid of at least $15 to try to secure the domain. If you are the only bidder, and we get the domain in the drop, you get the domain. If two or more users bid on the domain, but the bidding is not $30 or above, the domain will be put into a reverse auction. If two or more users bid on a domain, but only one bidder bids more than $30, that bidder will be awarded the domain. If two or more users bid on a domain and all users bid more than $30 the domain will go into a private auction where only previous bidders will be allowed to enter. . As far as Pool and Snapnames is concerned, let's just say that when you bid at either of the two you know that the MINIMUM you will pay is $60.00 IF you are the only one who put in a backorder at that service. The good news again, is that you only pay if you get the domain. On the other hand, if someone else put in a backorder on the domain, their will be an auction. And you can bet that the rules of the auction are to keep the price going higher and higher. But no one puts a gun to your head and forces you to pay more than you want. That's a lot of info... you best do some of your own research with these companies before you get involved in last minute minute bidding. Remember... the domain is only worth what it is worth to you. Don't get caught up in the auction fever. Have a price in mind BEFORE the auction begins. If you lose the domain... then it was meant to be. Don't pay TOO much just to win a stupid auction. Good Luck! ;) xplora03 09-05-2005, 12:19 AM Originally posted by 4solutions Here's the deal. GoDaddy will give you a flat fee of $18.95 and, if they get the domain, then you get it for that flat fee. Only one backorder per domain name at GoDaddy. But, you have to pay up front and GoDaddy has only their three in-house registrars: GoDaddy, BlueRazor and WildWestDomains. If they don't get the domain, then you get to switch the backorder over to another domain name. Face it... with only three domains, if anybody else wants this domain, they're going to get it. Thank you for your reply and long explaination. I dont expect to pay much for that domain because it is for my organisation/club website. we own the .org and .net, just the .com. of course we hope we own that as well, but if it goes too expensive then we will choose to give up. Thanks again for your superb explaination |