I am looking at getting a TREO 650 to support my business and would like to get opinions from people who own one. I do some searches, but I haven't really seen these questions.

How easy is it to view web pages? Is this smart phone actually usable for viewing and using web pages? I am really interested in my cpanel, whm, and support ticket pages. Of course I would like to be able to view my customers pages to look at problems.

thank you.

Never used a 650, only own a 600. Webpages are workable on the 600, but it can get tough. But a 600 is a 160x160 screen, whereas 650 is a 320x320 screen, so i'm sure it's much better.

The Treo 650 works ok for me in viewing web pages. I use it whenever I'm out and need to. I'll break it down in a few parts. My service provider is sprint by the way.

Page view.

You can set the page view to "wide page" which will make it show up basically how it does on your computer screen. Only difference is you will have to scroll from left to right to view some of the page. I'd say the Treo will show about 35% of the page on the screen meaning you'd have to scroll to the right to see the rest. "Optimized" is also an option but not a good one. It basically tries to compress the whole site onto the treo screen Being most sites have images and tables it usually scatters everything all over the place making it look horrible. With wide page I find it very usuable. Just don't usually go to sites where I have to read too much (news, etc..) as scrolling from left to right and up and down gets annoying.

Page Content

I can view php, html, etc.. Most web sites work fine. Just doesn't support flash, active-x, java, etc... Paypal doesn't work at all, it promps you to save the page. Ebay also works funny. It either works fine or sometimes shows some of the page source on the top of the screen. If you want to use those two sites a lot this will be a problem for you. I haven't had a problem with other sites.

Speed

Depends on location, with good service I can't complain. Not anywhere as fast as the blackberry I use to have with Nextel, but I was paying for a highspeed service.

Overall browsing on a 1/10 I'd give it a 7. It gets the job done, could use improvement though. If you plan to drop your laptop and get this you'll be dissapointed. If you just plan to use it when on the run and need access you'll be happy.

Email work without a complaint at all from me. Just like outlook


Ask something else if you want to know or I'm sure others will say more. Have to run

It is much better. However, personally I mostly use email, SSH, VNC, get SMS alerts for emergencies, and remote reboot and don't have much need to use the web browsing to support the business. Any sites I go to frequently (the remote reboot is web-based and monitoring) are made either pda- or wap-friendly and function well.

I use Modernbill and can assume that's a loss to manage via Treo ;) Also, never had to try cPanel/WHM. I really end up being able to take care of whatever I personally need to via phone and others are near a computer anyway to take care of the issue when need be.

The advantage of a Blackberry is its great multi-tasking capabilities. I'd still pick PalmOS for application support if you need a lot of applications (WWW, VNC, SSH, Telnet, etc.) I have an older PalmOS 4 flip-phone (Kyocera) and I love it. You can view it here: http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/7135-smartphone/

I own a 650 and use it often to view websites such as MapQuest in addition to Famous Players. I would say as long as your not viewing pages with use of heavy graphics your going to be fine. The only issues that i have encountered are with javascript but that could be as a result of badly coded pages. The speed and accessibility with Rogers is pretty always available and you cant really complain about the speed.

My major concern for you would be the cost of loading CPanel / WHM / Billing pages with heavy graphics constantly. The bill gets racked up extremely quickly and I can definetely say unless your only going to use the web features on the odd occassion then your pretty well forced to get an unlimited data plan. Last month my bill for data alone was probably atleast $50.00 and that was just sending emails and surfing the web on occasion.

Regards,

Troy

data depends on the company you use. For sprint it's unlimited for $10 (that's email, browsing, text, etc..). Unless you go over your phone minutes while talking your bill will never go up.

As far as pages there is an option where you can turn off all images. That will make page load a lot quicker, but depending on the site that may or not be an option for you.

Thanks for all the inputs. I use Sprint, so the time isn't the big issue. While my main purpose is email and SSH, I want the ability to look at web pages when the customer complains. Also WHM and Cpanel would be great.

A fellow Treo 650 user.. glad to see you!

What you're going to want is called the Picsel Browser. It is made for the PalmOS and is capable of doing a "zoomed out" "zoomed in" mode of viewing so you only see a part of the full size page at a time. It is excellent for viewing cPanel/WHM/Helpdesks.

Good luck! ;)

My business partner and I both have a Treo 650. I have found this puppy INVALUABLE to our business, as well as to my life!

I can go to movies...

I can go out to eat...

I can sit and stare at the tv...

I can TURN MY LAPTOP OFF!

Of course... I don't DO any of the above... but the point is... now I could if I wanted to... :D

Originally posted by WebOnce
My business partner and I both have a Treo 650. I have found this puppy INVALUABLE to our business, as well as to my life!

I can go to movies...

I can go out to eat...

I can sit and stare at the tv...

I can TURN MY LAPTOP OFF!

Of course... I don't DO any of the above... but the point is... now I could if I wanted to... :D I know you aren't talking for all of us Treo 650 users, but I'll be darned if you aren't! :) I'm in pretty much the same boat. Truly a tool that has given the ability to make business management a lot less tied to the desk, giving many other opportunities (be they leisure or business) a chance!

Yeah, overall the 600/650 is great.

I forward copies of all critical e-mail (i.e. support, sales, server monitoring, signups) to sprint e-mail, and have it set to notify me by sms if I get an e-mail at that addy (urgent business e-mail is the only thing I use the sprint e-mail addy for). Then I open up chatter (very much recommend it), and all is set.

Of course, most of the time I just leave Chatter open anyway, so the SMS isn't necessary, but just in case I'm not connected to the internet I still get notified. with chatter, it gives you push type e-mail similar to a blackberry.

Works great as an mp3 player with a 1 gig sd card, and it's singlehandedly increased my text messages tenfold. DocsToGo is another essential purchase, as I put reference information on my SD card to view things I need to call up.

Also, recommend getting backupbuddy, so you can backup your info to your card and your computer.

Also don't forget that if you get a Treo 650 you are eligible for a free 128 MB SD Card from Palmone.com. Just have to go to the website fill out the form and they send it to you for free. I upgraded to a 512MB Card, but if you don't plan to store too much media a 128 will be fine.

I need more info on the Picsel Browser. Never heard of that

anyone ever use the audiovox ppc-6600? I was considering getting one of those vs a treo 650, I use to have the treo 600 and was not too happy with it

Originally posted by Webhost81
[B]Also don't forget that if you get a Treo 650 you are eligible for a free 128 MB SD Card from Palmone.com. Just have to go to the website fill out the form and they send it to you for free. I upgraded to a 512MB Card, but if you don't plan to store too much media a 128 will be fine.

I need more info on the Picsel Browser. Never heard of that

We actually got 1GB cards from newegg, only like 62 each... though we are getting $90 bluetooth headsets for free aparently :)

Originally posted by rmurray321
anyone ever use the audiovox ppc-6600? I was considering getting one of those vs a treo 650, I use to have the treo 600 and was not too happy with it The PPC-6600 is a D-O-G. Ugghhh.

After using a Treo 300 and Treo 600 for the past 4 years, I was eager to get the bigger screen that the 6600 offered. It's funny how much you can take for granted how easy it is to use a device until you try something else. The 6600 was unreliable, buggy, the phone was atrocious, and it lacked some basic features that worked out of the box on the Treos.

I went back to the Treo. Significantly easier to use, more reliable, and an indespensible tool for my business. Keep in mind, if you can't accomplish something on your Treo, you can always plug it into your laptop and use it as a wireless modem. Highly recommended.

Brandon

Originally posted by cbtrussell
The PPC-6600 is a D-O-G. Ugghhh.

After using a Treo 300 and Treo 600 for the past 4 years, I was eager to get the bigger screen that the 6600 offered. It's funny how much you can take for granted how easy it is to use a device until you try something else. The 6600 was unreliable, buggy, the phone was atrocious, and it lacked some basic features that worked out of the box on the Treos.

I went back to the Treo. Significantly easier to use, more reliable, and an indespensible tool for my business. Keep in mind, if you can't accomplish something on your Treo, you can always plug it into your laptop and use it as a wireless modem. Highly recommended.

Brandon

Too bad linux doesn't seem to pick mine up properly :rolleyes:

anyone know if they plan to bring the samsung i730 to sprint?

I wasn't a big fan of the Treo 600, so I've been considering a Sony Ericsson P910... any one use one of those?

Just to provide an alternative point of view to the previous poster that said the PPC-6600 was terrible, my partners and I all use them and we're really happy with this phone.

We always had problems with the Palms synchronizing with our various Microsoft, and non-Microsoft applications -- and with the Pocket PC based PPC-6600, all those problems have disappeared.

The web surfing is okay -- the built-in Internet Explorer browser works, but you might want to consider using a different browser, like Thunderbird if you're planning on trying to use ModernBill via your phone.

My recommendation is that most cellular providers will allow you to try out a phone for a week or two to see if you like it, and then will take it back for a different model without any penalty. From talking with different people, some people really really like the Palm based phones, and others (like us) think the Pocket PC based phones, such as the PPC-6600 are the best.

Also keep in mind that a PPC-6600 from Sprint is not the same phone as a Siemens SX66 from Cingular (even though they are both made by HTC). The Sprint version uses EVDO for data, which is pretty quick -- while the Cingular version uses GPRS, which is limited to 9.6 kbps. On the other hand, the Cingular version supports WiFi, while the Sprint version does not.

So you should try each of them out, and see what works best for you.


Noah Kaufman
NWD Hosting

Originally posted by nwdhosting
The web surfing is okay -- the built-in Internet Explorer browser works, but you might want to consider using a different browser, like Thunderbird if you're planning on trying to use ModernBill via your phone.


That was one big bright spot with the 6600 - web browsing with Thunderbird was exceptionally good for a handheld device. On the downside, Thunderbird itself was an additional $60 a year or so.

Brandon

I love my Treo 650, don't hesitate and GET ONE! It makes mobile hosting business a possibility =)

One thing about accessing Cpanel/WHM, since Cpanel uses "frames", the Treo browser does not display the right frame, only the left frame with the main menu. It will be difficult to perform most actions which require the right frame to load.

Originally posted by felit0
I love my Treo 650, don't hesitate and GET ONE! It makes mobile hosting business a possibility =)

One thing about accessing Cpanel/WHM, since Cpanel uses "frames", the Treo browser does not display the right frame, only the left frame with the main menu. It will be difficult to perform most actions which require the right frame to load.
felit0,
that is the type of information I needed. While it probably won't be the norm, I was planning on using WHM. You just provided some very important information.
thank you.

Let's just say, I don't leave home without my T650 ;)

I have all my DA admin panels set to use the Power User template which is all links, no graphics. It loads incredibly fast on the Treo.

can you do remote desktop on a treo as well?

Originally posted by rmurray321
anyone ever use the audiovox ppc-6600? I was considering getting one of those vs a treo 650, I use to have the treo 600 and was not too happy with it

I have this phone (verizon) and I'm quite fond of it. I've never used a TREO, but this phone hits the spot for me. I get -

- high speed access. In most EVDO areas I get about 700Kbps downstream. Everything if ast.

- activesync to my exchange server. If you use exchange server, this is the best thing in the world. I have a single, centralized spot for mananing contacts, appointments, tasks, email, etc. I make changes on the phone, sync them, and they are available in OWA / outlook immediately.

-can use the phone as a modem. i get reasonably fast internet speeds in hotels, airports, etc and don't have to paid the rediculous $10/day fees.

Yes, this phone isn't without flaws. The included carrier sucks, the battery sucks, and I do have to reset the phone a few times a week because it becomes flakey. I got a better case, an extended battery, and for the most part I am very happy with the phone.

I have actually found the phone very liberating ... in emergecies, I can terminal services, ssh, aim, icq, msn, email, no problems. I have modified juniper filters at 4AM from vegas on my phone. At my wife's graduation ceremony (long and boring), something broke and I was able to fix it. She didn't even notice I was "busy" for a while. Day to day it's also quite nice ... I rarely use my laptop around the house anymore. I just check mail on the phone every 15-30 minutes. When I travel, I can get off a plane, sync my email in 2 minutes and know for sure that everything is fine (or not).

Originally posted by nwdhosting
The web surfing is okay -- the built-in Internet Explorer browser works, but you might want to consider using a different browser, like Thunderbird if you're planning on trying to use ModernBill via your phone.



Do you have a URL for this browser?

Originally posted by rmurray321
can you do remote desktop on a treo as well?

Yup.

hmm, i was not aware you could do that on a treo, maybe I will reanalyze my options again. good thing I am not in a huge hurry to get a new setup

You can do frames on a treo. You can only view one frame at a time, but you can view both frames separately.

Originally posted by derek.bodner
You can do frames on a treo. You can only view one frame at a time, but you can view both frames separately.

Care to share how? :)

It does it automatically in Blazer, the built in browser.

Yes but it only shows you one frame - left frame with WHM options.

Originally posted by GideonX
It does it automatically in Blazer, the built in browser.
GideonX,
That is they type of information I need. How do you switch from frame to frame?

thanks

Originally posted by Dacsoft
GideonX,
That is they type of information I need. How do you switch from frame to frame?

thanks

For example, when I view squirrelmail, normal browser would put the folders on the left frame and the inbox etc. on the right.

In Blazer, you'd see the left frame on top and the right frame on the bottom. You'll need to get used to it, but frames do work. Not sure on CPanel, never tried it.

ps: this was tested in wide screen mode.

Yes Frames do work, but not in cPanel / WHM

WHM works.

Open the page, it'll start off showing both frames really small. click one of the two frames to select, then click the magnifying glass icon, and it'll open up just that frame.

then to go back to viewing both frames, click on the magnifying glass again to zoom out. Select the left frame, then the magnifying glass to go back to the left frame.

This is in both optimized and widescreen modes.

For treo 600 or 650? Treo 650 has no magnifying glass that I know of - it's nowhere to be found in palm knowledgebase, just treo 600

ah, i have the 600.

My original post:
Never used a 650, only own a 600. Webpages are workable on the 600, but it can get tough. But a 600 is a 160x160 screen, whereas 650 is a 320x320 screen, so i'm sure it's much better.

On my 650 I am unable to use WHM. I only see the left frame as well, along with the top navigation

Anyone try the T650 in modem mode with a laptop over Singular, which I assume still uses GPRS?

I use my aging Ericcson T68 in GPRS mode (singular) and achieve about 40kbps (that's bits, not bytes) download/upload, but ping latency is horrid (500-800ms) which causes extremely slow page loading times.

I won't mind if the built in browser fails on some sites, knowing I can get get better GPRS latency from my laptop than my E. T68. If ping latency is the same, I can't imagine using GPRS for day to day activities.

Has anyone been able to get past the not able to use WHM thing on the 650s yet? I was considering a purchase until I read this.

There is a way, but it's not very convenient...

I have had my Treo 650 for about a month now and I love it. I have not had any problems with it at all and like others here have stated it really does give you your life back with the hosting industry (if you choose to take it).

The ability to check emails, work in H-Sphere, SSH & Terminal Services to servers, and VPN have really made it so I can do pretty much any task i need to from where ever I am.

Certainly a good tool if you are running hosting company.

There are alternate browsers, although I've never tried them because it's worked on Blazer.

Anyone with a 650 try alternate browsers?

Originally posted by Gump
Has anyone been able to get past the not able to use WHM thing on the 650s yet? I was considering a purchase until I read this.
I am the same way. While SSH is the most important, I need the ability to use WHM.

Originally posted by Dacsoft
I am the same way. While SSH is the most important, I need the ability to use WHM.

Picsel Browser... (as mentioned in earlier posts). :stickout:

I've found the TREO 650 to be indispensable for answering technical support issues outside of the office.

While things like SSH and WHM aren't the best fit for low-bandwidth/small screen devices like the TREO + current cellular networks, anything that works with WAP runs really fast.

We use eKayako support desk and regularly answer tickets using the WAP interface that ships with the product.

Until EV-DO is inexpensively available everywhere or they come out with a TREO that has built-in WIFI, WAP is your friend.

I dunno... I need a 'WHT Fix' and the laptop is all the way across the room... it is going quite well here.
:)
granted we use sprint so I believe we get speedier transfers.

Just did some research and found out you cannot use DUN (dial up networking) with the T650 and a laptop without hacking the phone's OS. This is true at least for Verizon and Sprint clients.

It also requires your laptop have bluetooth support, as there is no IR or serial=>USB cable included with the phone which supports DUN.

If anyone has used the T650 to get online with your laptop, I'd love to hear your story.

Hard to believe such a feature rich phone could be so lacking in this critical area for sysadmins.

We're using that feature with Treo 650 and Verizon. Connection speeds are approximately 250-300 kb/sec. Works with both, Bluetooth and the Cable that comes with Treo 650.

Check into: http://www.junefabrics.com/palmnet/index.php

No hacking is needed, just install that app and you're done :)

Originally posted by amps

It also requires your laptop have bluetooth support, as there is no IR or serial=>USB cable included with the phone which supports DUN.


At least with my Verizon model, it came with a USB cord so if that works anythig like other cells i have had in the past, you can use this as your modem cable.


If anyone has used the T650 to get online with your laptop, I'd love to hear your story.


Not yet but that will be the first thing I do. I am calling them now to activate the phone.

I'll let you know how it goes.

Originally posted by ICALIV
We're using that feature with Treo 650 and Verizon. Connection speeds are approximately 250-300 kb/sec. Works with both, Bluetooth and the Cable that comes with Treo 650.

Check into: http://www.junefabrics.com/palmnet/index.php

No hacking is needed, just install that app and you're done :)

Be careful with that. I've heard some people have gotten letters from carriers threatening about excess data transfer because of it.

Originally posted by amps
Just did some research and found out you cannot use DUN (dial up networking) with the T650 and a laptop without hacking the phone's OS. This is true at least for Verizon and Sprint clients.

It also requires your laptop have bluetooth support, as there is no IR or serial=>USB cable included with the phone which supports DUN.

If anyone has used the T650 to get online with your laptop, I'd love to hear your story.

Hard to believe such a feature rich phone could be so lacking in this critical area for sysadmins.

Untrue. As of the last update released in June Sprint adds DUN to the Treo 650. Go to palmone.com and read the up on the update. The "shadowmite" (or whatever it's called) hack is no longer needed.

Originally posted by GideonX
Be careful with that. I've heard some people have gotten letters from carriers threatening about excess data transfer because of it. As long as you're not taking advantage of the situation, and only using the Treo as a wireless modem in limited use (i.e., emergency support), you won't have any problems.

I was out in a very rural, mountainous area earlier this month calling on a client. The office called and said they had an issue they couldn't properly resolve - I pulled over beside the road, took out the laptop, plugged in the Treo, and had it fixed within 5 minutes. Priceless :)

Originally posted by cbtrussell
As long as you're not taking advantage of the situation, and only using the Treo as a wireless modem in limited use (i.e., emergency support), you won't have any problems.

I was out in a very rural, mountainous area earlier this month calling on a client. The office called and said they had an issue they couldn't properly resolve - I pulled over beside the road, took out the laptop, plugged in the Treo, and had it fixed within 5 minutes. Priceless :)

5 minutes won't cause alarms ;)

Why should there be an alarm? I pay for unlimited data transfer, why should they even bother to care? That is what they sold me, I plan on using it as a regular modem for my laptop quite often.

Originally posted by Gump
Why should there be an alarm? I pay for unlimited data transfer, why should they even bother to care? That is what they sold me, I plan on using it as a regular modem for my laptop quite often.

Yes, unlimited transfer through the Treo directly, not through another form.

Btw, I'm not basing this on 'rumors', head to treocentral.com if you don't believe me. It does happen if you abuse it.

Originally posted by GideonX
Yes, unlimited transfer through the Treo directly, not through another form.

Btw, I'm not basing this on 'rumors', head to treocentral.com if you don't believe me. It does happen if you abuse it.

Exactly my problem. If i can't use the phone connected to my laptop in the same unlimited fashion, it's worthless to me. To be perfectly honest, I would only use the BUILT IN screen for web browsing in limited use, truely emergency situations.

My laptop makes surfing the web and doing real admin tasks on the road much easier. The phone screen itself would simply be for emergencies where my laptop isn't available.

The DUN hack (and now what Sprint apparently offers) allows you to use your unlimited data plan on your laptop. This is exactly what I've been doing for the past 2 years with Cingular and my little Ericcson T68. If the T650 only supports this in limited and/or hacked fasion, it's simply not practical for real on-the-road admin work.

I'm definately heading over to sprint if they finally allow DUN without extra fees, like my Cingular+T68 has done for years, lol.

They sell the PCI cards for Verizon, with unlimited plans. So what is the difference I wonder...

My XV6600 has an unsupported "hack" for DUN, which works great. As for WHT, I can read it just fine on my XV6600 :)

The Verizon PC card is a separate service altogether. $79/mo for "BroadBandAccess" service on the card, separate from your phone+data plan. This is what they tried to sell me at the store when I mentioned I needed laptop connectivity.

There are two plans for the card... one for $59 which is 144kbps.

This is the same data rate the phone achieves through a data cable with the DUN hack, or 3rd party commercial software. Without the DUN hack, Verizon wants to charge you an additional $59 (total data plan is now $118/mo) for DUN. Of course, the salesperson could not verify if DUN was even possible, period.

The $79 plan "BroadBandAccess" is 700kbps and ONLY works on the PC card from what I heard...

Originally posted by GideonX
Be careful with that. I've heard some people have gotten letters from carriers threatening about excess data transfer because of it.

Not if you sign-up for an Unlimited Plan (~$30/month).

Originally posted by ICALIV
Not if you sign-up for an Unlimited Plan (~$30/month).

Read on Treocentral or Mytreo about Sprint customers that received bills for hundreds of dollars while having the unlimited vision plan then.

Originally posted by ICALIV
Not if you sign-up for an Unlimited Plan (~$30/month).

Please re-read what I wrote, it has nothing to do if you have the Unlimited plan or not.

I'm not using Sprint :) Verizon

Just checked that forum - couldn't find a thing about being charged extra for unlimited verizon plans.

Originally posted by GideonX
5 minutes won't cause alarms ;)

Neither will 5 hrs or even 50 in a month. :cool: :) I've done it with both Sprint and Verizon without a problem.

But if you stay online through your laptop a substantial part of the day, file swapping and any number of other high traffic activities, then yes of course you're going to get nailed.

Originally posted by ICALIV
Just checked that forum - couldn't find a thing about being charged extra for unlimited verizon plans.

As a long time member of treocentral who has seen this thrashed about more times than I can count, I can assure you it's there - but most of the conversations involve Sprint customers.

The other posters are telling you the facts: unless you buy a PC card for use with a laptop, the unlimited data plans are for data use on the phone itself. This is clearly stipulated in any TOS you will sign upon execution of a new contract with any of the major carriers.

That said - these carriers are not dumb - they understand that a large number of their customers would leave if not allowed to use their laptops. You will most likely be perfectly fine. But if you can't force yourself to use the connection in moderation, then perhaps you should pay up for the PC card option.


Brandon

cbtrussell - perfect answer.

While we are on the topic, how does one get a good email client, preferable free, that supports multiple IMAP and POP addresses? I though it came bundled with something like this, but the installed software seems to be good only for very limited email capabilities.

For great IMAP support, get Chatteremail. You will not find anything better. It is worth the $35.

I've talked with Marc Blank the developer a few times about a few bugs I've found. He releases a fix a few hours later. The guy is incredible at what he does.

Then again, I believe he was on the development team that created Zork, so who knows ;)

Anyhow, there isn't a free client available that'll do any kind of IMAP/POP correctly. I don't consider the one included with the unit anywhere remotely functional.

Originally posted by cbtrussell
Neither will 5 hrs or even 50 in a month. I've done it with both Sprint and Verizon without a problem.

Thanks for the insight Brian. This is the type of info I've been looking for.

Do you have any more info on the Verizon DUN patch and whether or not you need to apply it every time you power up the 650? I've read this several places and it's a pretty big turn off, pun intended =).

I absolutely love my Samsung i730. High-speed internet access pretty much anywhere I go. I tether it to my laptop when necessary. I'd pick the i730 over the Treo any day.

Originally posted by ICALIV
Yes Frames do work, but not in cPanel / WHM

actually they do...and whenever you want to focus on a particular frame just select zoom and tap on it. I use my treo to access WHM all the time.

Treo 600, not 650 :D

Yes, Chattermail is a godsend. Well worth the $35

And Marc is great. Very friendly fellow that's good at what he does.

Interesting news related to the topic.

http://news.com.com/Verizon+Wireless+may+cut+high-speed+pricing/2100-7351_3-5843923.html?tag=nefd.top

Verizon Wireless is expected to cut the price of its high-speed wireless Internet service by as much as 25 percent early next week in a bid to increase its customer base for the service, one analyst said Friday.

The No. 2 U.S mobile service and the country's first to sell wireless Web links with speeds comparable to some home broadband services, will cut its $80 a month rate plan to about $60 in a bid to stay ahead of rivals such as Sprint Nextel, said American Technology Research analyst Albert Lin.

Originally posted by amps
There are two plans for the card... one for $59 which is 144kbps.

This is the same data rate the phone achieves through a data cable with the DUN hack, or 3rd party commercial software.

This is incorrect. I get faster than 144kbps when I hook up my laptop to the net via my XV6600. I always get over 200. I don't really feel like breaking out the laptop right now, but I'm pretty sure if I did some speed tests I would get in the neighborhood of 400-600.

Originally posted by Jay Suds
This is incorrect. I get faster than 144kbps when I hook up my laptop to the net via my XV6600. I always get over 200. I don't really feel like breaking out the laptop right now, but I'm pretty sure if I did some speed tests I would get in the neighborhood of 400-600.

I usually get between 400 and 800 kbps when I tether my i730 with my laptop. Good stuff.

You guys are obviously in EVDO areas, which are typically found in major metropolitan areas. With the XV6600 I could get 400-600kbps in Atlanta.

The Treo600/650 is NOT EVDO enabled, so you'll be stuck with 60-100kbps wherever you can get a Verizon signal. Still not bad considering the alternative :)

Brandon

Originally posted by Webhost81
Also don't forget that if you get a Treo 650 you are eligible for a free 128 MB SD Card from Palmone.com. Just have to go to the website fill out the form and they send it to you for free. I upgraded to a 512MB Card, but if you don't plan to store too much media a 128 will be fine.

I need more info on the Picsel Browser. Never heard of that

Do you have a link for the free memory offer?

I could not find info on their site. Side note: I too would like more info on the Picse browser, I did not even see a download option on their site.

How about SSH folks? What is the preferred app for that?

I use TuSSH for ssh

http://www.tussh.com/

Originally posted by Plexi_Hosting
I use TuSSH for ssh

http://www.tussh.com/

Same here and the best part, it's free!

Originally posted by LP-Trel
A fellow Treo 650 user.. glad to see you!

What you're going to want is called the Picsel Browser. It is made for the PalmOS and is capable of doing a "zoomed out" "zoomed in" mode of viewing so you only see a part of the full size page at a time. It is excellent for viewing cPanel/WHM/Helpdesks.

Good luck! ;) Do you happen to have a link to download or purchase Picsel Browser? I find plenty of sites that talk about it, but none to get it.

thanks

I've had the same experience!! Seems the things you want/need the most are the hardest to find ;)

I gave up searching for a Picsel download, but the Xiino browser has a sweet "icon-based, frames-viewer" (did I coin the phrase?)

An ugly browser overall, but the frames functionality might be worth the price if you want to run WHM, at least on a Treo 650.

Palm fixed the memory problem and the free memory card offer is no longer valid as a result. Check their website to make sure you are running the latest software now.

Christoph