for some reason something just doesnt seam right about rackshack . As ar as hardware is concerned , i wouldnt even call a computer a server , unless it had high end components or scsi . You cannot say that because its a compaq , its good . I know everyone here knows what an emachine is , very well known brand , they sell thousand dollar computers , i would never buy one regardless of what it claimed to have inside of it . John has made some very valid points , cheap does not mean good , nor does a name slapped on to a box . Those boxes could very well be rebuilt pieces of crap , or brand spanking new . What it boils down to is , why can they offer this , and public company's like ntt/verio who have far more buying power and money offer comparative boxes for 3 times as much , in fact rackshack is the cheapest on the net ... that scares me , alot. On the same note , company's like rackspace and verio are guarenteed to have far more support and better uptime with faster connections . I dont think anyone is wrong for making a purchase with rackshack , its obvious they're not looking for top end . I would also like to point out there sales , how is it one day they have this "bargain basement deal" and the next day an even better one , i dont think thats fair to customers . If you're happy with rackshack , then good for you , but if you have to question anything with a host , then i would say something is wrong , and maybe you should go somewhere else , where you know excatly what you're getting ...then again be prepared to pay more , well not more but an average price for a reliable dedicated server .

Rackshack does not sell servers. You're right, these are not even suppose to be called servers. They are basic cheap machines. The part are most likely bought from WallMart or K-Mart. Most users don't realize that the hardware is not quality, The hard drive is about 5200. Other companies can do the same thing RackShack does. Undersell their "servers" and give sh*t loads of bandwidth. WHY don't they do that? Do you honestly think they don't know better then to do what RS is doing. There is a good reason why they don't do it, and RS doesn't see it.

Well first of all, I'll preface this with the fact that I think you are both trolls and the opener of this thread is very likely the same person who was banned earlier under a different name pushing this same issue.

And I'm also not going to go into a huge rebuttal of your points because both of them shine completely in what they are, all by themselves.

I'll offer a simple tit for tat example of pricing for the same product. Up until recently, and I do not know if the still offer them but I do not see them in their product line. Verio offered a RaQ4i system for approximately $450. with about 50g of bandwidth. Rackshack offered that same system with an additional hard drive for $149.

Now, if by your reasoning, something is better, simply because it costs more, then I highly advise you, next time you buy a car.. Don't, whatever you do, negoitiate for the lowest price! The damn thing will break on you much sooner and will not have near the bragging rights as it would if you paid twice as much for it.

Guys.. this stuff you are pushig is all very clearly obvious to most readers here as total sour grapes.

There are literally thousands of us hosted at RackShack who are more than completely satisfied, we're estatic about it.. Wow.. that's really got to piss off a competitor who simply can't compete, they watch their business dwindle as client after client leave to go to this whorehouse of servers, the shack of racks, with wallmart hardware and k-mart bandwidth...

I highly advise you to go buy a server from either Interland or Verio if you are so fond of them. Many of us are migrants from those very systems you are touting and trust me, they are not better, they just cost more, for less..

I tire of this nonsense and leave you to your ignorance and blatant display of same!

Short

Shortfork VERY well said !

:D

I feel like Rackshack has become the replacement for MS. :rolleyes: if you know what I mean.

Anyway, yeah I agree. The thread opener is probably the same person. Cheap does not mean the product has to be bad. And besides it works.
He probably knows my point anyway. I won't speak further.

Hmmmm....interesting.....but I have a question for Shyne and Neta....

I have 11 servers with RackShack (with hardware from k-mart).....I profit about 6 grand a month with those servers. My question is.....whats your profit?

kd


ps......did i mention all my customers are 100% satisfied?.....and I'm buying a ski boat this weekend paying CASH???

While I'm on the lake in my new boat.....with some old RUSH and Zepplin jamming over the speakers, the smell of sun tan lotion, and the scenery of 3 babes, one thing is for sure.....................................................................I wont be thinking of you 2 clowns downing RackShack.....................

Peace.......

who cares? RS is doing something right, I see posts everyday asking whats the cheapest this or whats the cheapest that.
If you want cheap then go cheap, I have servers that almost match the specs of the RS 1Ghz Duron systems, I have customers that want a cheap system like that and I have customers that want no less than fully loaded Sun Fire 280's. My "cheap" wal-mart brand Duron systems have a 2 in every 109 failure rate and most of the failures are a bad memory chip or a dead power supply.....15mins downtime and it's up and running again. Just because you buy something from "wal-mart" doesn't mean it's gonna break tommrow.

So if you push a RackShack issue you get banned?

shortfork the same person who was banned earlier under a different name pushing this same issue.

I had a server with RackShack it didn't work. Cancelled it. Either I got a bad machine (with no offer to replace) or the happy people don't expect to get what they paid for.

How could anyone reliably host sites on the Ensim with the Bandwidth Manager Problem? RAQ's run hunderds of days and Ensim runs hours (maybe).

Originally posted by Fish_Saver
So if you push a RackShack issue you get banned?





Uhm, actually, he asked to be kicked out in one of his posts.

im sorry if i offended anyone , thats just my opinion . It seems to me the only trolls are the ones whom make rude comments and have to try and prove something to someone else , i could care less if who have your server with rackshack or how much you payed for it, if it has kmart parts or not , or if you're making a million dollars a year. I only stated my opinion , if people dont like it thats fine , but i didnt call you names . I find that childish . The only people that get bent out of shape are the people that have a server over at rackshack , dont be so defensive , if it works for you and you're happy , then good for you . I also dont remember saying cheap was bad , i just questioned it .

My "cheap" wal-mart brand Duron systems have a 2 in every 109 failure rate and most of the failures are a bad memory chip or a dead power supply.....15mins downtime and it's up and running again.

In my personal opinion i rather go with a company that has tested there hardware , and doesnt put burnt racks up for sell , in my industry , 15 minutes of down time is lost money , i havent had 15 (been there 9 months /************* .com (http://************* .com)) minutes of downtime where im at now , but then again i built my own server for my company and shipped it to our host.Im not sure if you can do this at rackshack , but i know most other hosting companys will allow this .

I highly advise you, next time you buy a car.. Don't, whatever you do, negoitiate for the lowest price!

i dont negiotiate for the lowest price when purchasing a car , i make an appointment with the fleet manager , who doesnt work off commission , haggling isnt my style .

I feel like Rackshack has become the replacement for MS. if you know what I mean.

exactly , i see rackshacks practices as monolistic , anyone that has taken a econ class knows what happens to a company that undersells everyone, samething exact thing that happens to a company that over sells everything , they dont last long , or they get sued for being a monopoly

anyways , my post wasnt to piss anyone off , it was to state my opinion , i never asked anyone to agree , and like i said name calling is childish , but thank you for the replies

that *****.com link is actually <<Removed: Could it be that it is censored for a reason?>> minus the slashes

shortfork,

Insulting someone on the forum? And you say I'm a troll?

Who said anything that the higher the price the better the servers? I didn't say that.
I said the RS servers are not high quality. They are not even quality.

Why would I be angry at RS for having a lot of clients. I'm not a provider, and if I would be, obviously I wouldn't follow the RS business plan (if they have one). I don't think RS is a big threat to no company. They sell a whole different product. They sell cheap cheap servers that are targeted to certain type of people. They are no better then the UNLIMITED hosts.

I'm glad you are happy with RS, but you are not speaking for everyone. Do a search on RS, and see what you come up with.

Originally posted by Shyne
The part are most likely bought from WallMart or K-Mart.
No Shyne, you're not a troll :rolleyes: I'm tired of these people.

Originally posted by neta
The only people that get bent out of shape are the people that have a server over at rackshack ... if it works for you and you're happy , then good for you .
You must mean the customers, the actual users of the services? Maybe they're as tired as I am of trolls coming to the forum and barking about things they have no knowledge of? They don't have questions, they just have biased opinions. The last one that invited himself to be banned was a compaq reseller and computer manufacturer (though his order links were dead, so who knows if he ever built a server in his life).

We're all a bit tired of the trolls. They aren't asking how the services are, nor are they interested when people tell them. They just want to type posts about how bad they 'must be' due to things they haven't fully researched and presume to be correct.

I highly doubt everyone is satisfied at Rackshack, nor has everyone been. I'm sure there are actual experiences which are negative. This doesn't mean you will come to this forum and post dribble. If you do, yes, you will be banned. I don't have time for it, neither does anyone else.