Web Hosting Talk







View Full Version : what can I get for $1000/mo?


dektong
04-02-2002, 06:18 AM
I was wonderring what offer can I get (colocation only for somebody eles that needs this done soon) for $1000/mo? I got some quotes from WorldCom, InterNAP, MFN (used to be above), and still some others. They basically have around 1.5mbps and half-full secure cabinet for $1000-$1500/mo. Not really that great in price ...

So today, I visited NYI.net. The price, for around $680/mo will give me 8U of pace, 1000 watts of power, 1 mbps burstable to 3mbps (90th percentile at $420/mbps). Now this price does seem to be more reasonable. I have searched the board, not really too many people (customers only, not hosts) give any sort of experience with NYI.net, so again let me ask you guys one more time: Any good/bad experience with NYI.net?

I am still waiting quotes from other companies, but what I get for around $1000/mo if I need jut 8-10U of rackspace and as much bandwith as possible, burstable to at least 5 mbps (10 or 100 mbps will be better)? Please, no cogent as primary bandwith (backup may be fine); will only choose multi-homed solution (must have Tier1 provider in the list). 24/7 support is needed and reasonably high uptime (>99.9%) is required. Please contact me directly or post your offer here.

cheers,
:beer:

anantatman
04-02-2002, 08:51 AM
you tried quest?

dektong
04-02-2002, 09:44 AM
No, I haven't tried quest. But if I go directly with quest (or Level3, WorldCom, etc) I will not have the redundancy (multi-homed) that I like to have, will I?

BTW, thank you for those who have emailed me your offer. I will expect to get more offers and look into these offers individually and reply you later with further inquieries or decisions.

cheers,
:beer:

Tetraboy
04-02-2002, 09:48 AM
Qwest, UUNet, and MFN aren't exactly what I'd call multihomed. Its much better imho to go with a webhost that has multiple connections to tier 1 providers. That way if they'res a peering squablle your customers don't suffer from it.

dektong
04-02-2002, 09:57 AM
exactly tetra, that's why I was not too interested about the offers I got from MFN and WorldCom. I was just very surprised to know that MFN has dropped their badwith price by around 40% per mbps, and worldcom starts to consider small business. But anyway, multi-homed is what I prefer. Location does not really matter though I would like to be around NJ, NY, CT, MA area (withing my driving distance).

cheers,
:beer:

allan
04-02-2002, 10:20 AM
Have you looked at Inflow? I know RackMY uses them, and they seem to have termination from a lot of providers (http://www.inflow.com).

Tetraboy
04-02-2002, 10:58 AM
I think NAC and Burst are also close up there. Inflow has places all around. I think VDI might be up there but you arleady know that.

RackMy.com
04-02-2002, 11:30 AM
Phili is about the closest DC to NY for Inflow.

dektong
04-02-2002, 11:37 AM
The last time I know, inflow is way to expensive per mbps (and it's at 95th percentile too). And yes, NAC is pretty darn good (I have a server there a very-very little downtime and if there is any, only few minutes), but even if I go through pwebtech, NAC is still expensive (forgot the bandwith price per mbps on 95th).

So nobody can give any comment on NYI? I am leaning towards NYI now.

cheers,
:beer:

dektong
04-02-2002, 11:38 AM
BTW, uuallan, you were with MAE-Dulles, weren't you? How are they (network quality and price).

cheers,
:beer:

RackMy.com
04-02-2002, 11:39 AM
inflow is way to expensive per mbps (and it's at 95th percentile too). Inflow also offers BW on average billing.

apollo
04-02-2002, 11:41 AM
I suggest internap - they are good. Actually I do not remember where, but lately there was a nice article about their service..

(ohh, did I say I get 10k for each referral!? oh.. I am just kidding you fools!)

ps. you may consider inflow as well. Both are nice providers and offer high quality bandwidth. You pay what you get.

thx
ApollO

Everyday
04-02-2002, 11:43 AM
Try Host Remote.net (http://www.hostremote.net) They have a nice facility. They are in New Jersey and have reasonable prices for the area.

Ask for Joe.

allan
04-02-2002, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by dektong
BTW, uuallan, you were with MAE-Duller, weren't you? How are they (network quality and price).


The bandwidth was good, and the quality of the networks was really good, but their network infrastructure had some problems. We had a couple of outages that should not have happened because of misconfigured routers. Their support was always very responsive during these outages though. It has also been almost a year, so I am sure their network has improved since we were there.

Price is another issue. We had great pricing, but a couple of people I sent their way got pricing that was a lot higher than ours, and there did not seem to be any consistency.

Again, that situation may have improved, I would give them a call to find out.

dektong
04-02-2002, 11:46 AM
I got a quote from Internap (NYC): 1.5 Mbps (95th) and half rack at $1500/mo. I like Internap too, but at $1500/mo I do expect to get more bandwith than that (and I only need 8-10U, btw). NYI can get me 3 mbps (burstable to 6, will ask them if they will get me burstable to 10) with 1/4 rack for about the same price (And guess what, mont to month contract). The most I can spend is $1500/mo, hm ... can I get 10mbps on this? I know that I can get this through somebody at layerone (buy bandwith direct from GC/Verizon/Epik), but then I am kinda worry about their support ... Otherwise, I will just jumped in.

RackMy, I never knew that inflow will do average billing. I have heard good things about inflow, will check them later. But if you can offer better deal than them, why not give me a shoot ;)

Attention to MOD: please move this thread to Offers forum since I too want to see some people post their offers here without breaking the forum rule.

cheers,
:beer:

allan
04-02-2002, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by apollo
I suggest internap - they are good. Actually I do not remember where, but lately there was a nice article about their service..


http://www.carrierhotels.com/news/April2002/internap0401.shtml

Make sure you are not in one of the facilities they are shedding.

dektong
04-02-2002, 11:50 AM
hm... interesting, thanks a lot allan.

cheers,
:beer:

allan
04-02-2002, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by dektong
hm... interesting, thanks a lot allan.


No problem...just your friendly neighborhood cub reporter in action :).

9onlinehost
04-02-2002, 12:49 PM
$1000 a month can get you a full cabinet and 2 mbs connection with axiomintegrations

www.axiomintegration.com

dektong
04-02-2002, 01:53 PM
Finally, I got back with WorldCom rep. They are being very agrresive right now. it turns out I can not freely diclose the proposal and best of all ... you are directly connected to UUNet backbone ... The proposal they send me is very-very professional and the best looking proposal I have ever seen. I am really impressed ...

The question is now whether I am ready for 95th percentile.

cheers,
:beer:

Tetraboy
04-02-2002, 01:57 PM
Why not go capped line?

dektong
04-02-2002, 02:03 PM
I hate being capped :D

cheer,
:beer:

manmythlgnd
04-02-2002, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Tetraboy
I think NAC and Burst are also close up there. Inflow has places all around. I think VDI might be up there but you arleady know that.

VDI seems like a disaster waiting to happen (and single-homed too). NAC is a solid business, on the other hand.

dektong
04-02-2002, 02:18 PM
At the price I am getting from WorldCom, NAC is still more expensive (if you go direct, that is).

cheers,
:beer:

allan
04-02-2002, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by dektong
At the price I am getting from WorldCom, NAC is still more expensive (if you go direct, that is).


If you sign up with WorldCom would you be in the Carteret, Elmsford or Boston data center?

dektong
04-02-2002, 02:55 PM
I prefer Boston, it's a new data center (one year), 75000 sq feet, and "only" 90 minutes from where I live. I may schedule a tour with them shortly.

BTW, does anybody know cervalis? I got an agressive pricing from them too, and they are only 40 minutes driving away from me. They have 4 bandwith providers (hm ... forgot each of them :)) and offer 99.999% uptime guarantee. They claim to be the biggest datacenter in the east coast (if not northeast).

cheers,
:beer:

jayjay
04-02-2002, 03:22 PM
Where in Boston?

There's a nice one outside of Boston, but I don't know of any really nice ones INSIDE boston?

dektong
04-02-2002, 06:55 PM
I am not sure where in Boston, but I thought WorldCom only have one datacenter (75000 square feet) in Boston Metro?

cheers,
:beer:

jayjay
04-02-2002, 06:58 PM
www.usdatacenters.com

They are pretty good, It's also about 5 minutes from me in Worcester.

311
04-02-2002, 07:25 PM
I would recomend http://peer1.net I am going to colo a server w/ them in the next few months. They are extremley competitive, professional, and their network is very impressive. They also gaurantee 100% uptime. They don't have any pricing on their site, but just contact them. Their prices are in CDN, but just ask for a quote in USD.

btw, they are located in Vancouver Canada, but they do have other data centres in the us

Good Luck in your search, dektong...

:beer:

manmythlgnd
04-03-2002, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by dektong
I prefer Boston, it's a new data center (one year), 75000 sq feet, and "only" 90 minutes from where I live. I may schedule a tour with them shortly.

BTW, does anybody know cervalis? I got an agressive pricing from them too, and they are only 40 minutes driving away from me. They have 4 bandwith providers (hm ... forgot each of them :)) and offer 99.999% uptime guarantee. They claim to be the biggest datacenter in the east coast (if not northeast).

cheers,
:beer:

I don't know much about cervalis, but their network diagram made me chuckle. It doesn't say too much, but it looks like this network diagram that Cisco used to hand out to their new customers for their Smart Start program. They'd sell you a lot of various equipment and give you financing, and this was the diagram they'd give you.

Anyway, I see them advertising some address space to only ATT and other space to UU, Global Crossing and ATT.

chrisS
04-03-2002, 04:10 PM
www.netcarrier.net

DigitalXWeb
04-03-2002, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by RackMy.com
Phili is about the closest DC to NY for Inflow.

If you have not made your mind up yet you can shoot me an email with the exact specs. We use the Philadelphia Inflow Data center for most of our servers and we have some available space in our current rack.

NOTE : He asked for this thread to be moved on page one so he can get offers.