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muji
07-20-2005, 12:24 PM
Hello to everybody,

I was wondering about the so called master merchant. Anyway i would like to know what is required to become a 3rd party processor like 2co and many others ?

Sincerely,
muji

trinitron
07-20-2005, 04:17 PM
There are alot of requirements, first of ALL you should be AIS Level 1 or CISP compliand.

And afterwards you will need to find a bank that want to deal with you. Your software, gateway and hosting facilities will need to be compliand too and stay compliand.

Or you make it as many others, you just do it, and will be shut down after 6 - 12 month.....NO stay away from this.

I think someone else here from WHT would be able to give you a much better explanation of everything.

muji
07-20-2005, 05:31 PM
Yea if somebody else can give me more information on this please drop it down, doesnt matter how much money this will involve.

Lorenz
07-21-2005, 08:42 PM
I am pretty sure too remember that if you are doing it the official way, so not being shutdown because you do it illegal, you are at least required to have a financial backup of $1,000,000 USD for your start by the bank and VISA / MC / AmEx, beside meeting the very very strict other regulations. Hence 2CO for example is *not* a 3rd party processor but a reseller for itīs "merchants".

muji
07-22-2005, 05:55 AM
I guess 2co didnt have a one million dollars to back them up, when they first started, so how i can organise the service like 2co anyway ?

cdgcommerce
07-22-2005, 07:00 AM
Actually, they probably did have some capital to back them up when they first started.

It was also easier to start such an operation back during the "dot com mania" of prior years when the Internet was just taking off.

Since then, Visa and MasterCard have adjusted for changing times and the rules & regs have been substantially tightened.

Even things like CISP/PCI did not exist back then - and today they are willing to shut down a processor that handles $15 billion per year in volume for 115,000+ merchants as a result of that processor not being compliant.

My goal here is not to discourage you but I feel that it is important to make you aware of the huge hoops necessary to build a 3rd party processing service and the fact that you need to really have substantial expertise in all aspects of bankcard processing for you to successfully achieve that goal.

Not to mention capital backing, the ability to develop the infrastructure required - management team, support staff, network, security, risk management, fraud monitoring, etc.

RiskPayments
07-22-2005, 10:14 AM
2CO actually did have some pretty significant financial resources, as they were in the software business for quite a few years before they got into payment processing.

I think the biggest obstacle is the fact that the card associations are not too fond of the 3rd party processing concept right now, so they are throwing up barriers to entry and keeping a close eye on the exisiting players in the industry.

TomD
07-22-2005, 12:16 PM
wow
always interesting to hear the perception of the "beginnings" of 2CO from others. Would be less interesting if they were accurate I guess, so have at it *smiles*

RiskPayments
07-22-2005, 12:59 PM
I could have sworn that's what the founder told me when I was introduced to him a few years back. You guys developed some type of fraud detection or point-of-sale software that was used by telecom companies which was a natural segway into processing...but it was awhile ago, so maybe I am not remembering correctly (it wouldn't be the first time!). Sorry for any misinformation!

Neosurge
07-23-2005, 04:11 AM
Originally posted by TomD
wow
always interesting to hear the perception of the "beginnings" of 2CO from others. Would be less interesting if they were accurate I guess, so have at it *smiles*


Why not reveal the truth then?