"unlimited" reseller hosting on ebay...i bet you've seen those. do these really work or are they just big scams?

I would believe that there is no such thing as unlimited thus it is probably a scam. And half of WHT would also agree on this. So I guess just forget it :)

However if you do go for it, let us know your progress.

Remember it's just 10-20$/month - unlimited domains transfer etc. i'm goign to go for it just to see if it works:)

only $10 to lose, not much. give it a go. if its good, all wht can start signing up :)

Heck I'll even offer it once those unlimited hard drives and unlimited data pipes/lines become available.

C'mon guys n gals the term "unlimited" for certain things is really not feasable it has been proven time and time again there are limits. Check TOS/AUP policies and bother to READ (yes I know most people would rather die first before reading the fine print with all the catch-22's in it).

Seriously these "unlimited threads" are becoming truely unlimited around here at this point. Guys save yourselves all the grief I am sure if any such host actually caught you using unlimited resources you would get suspended in the blink of an eye (not exageratory either since many clients have posted around here over the years as such).

In summary if you see the word unlimited in regards to bandwidth and disk space...
:gone:

(Obviously note this is in general, I am sure there are a few hosts offerring unlimited resources as well, possibly client would get their own box and host would just manage it for them with no root n such....)

-Justin

-Edited for a grammar mistake/error

They are basically trying to sell something many many many many many times larger than the world's largest datacenter for 10 bucks a month. Now that is either a scam, or they are a charity organization...

So how does storage actually work if it's unlimited, yet there is no such thing as an unlimited space hard drive; do the files just go straight to the trash or what?!?!?

Originally posted by rois
if its good, all wht can start signing up :)

I know this might sound a little stupid, but why not do that...

Signup for an unlimited account and then get LOADS of people to signup for free accounts?

Would be a good test to see what then do when you have a few thousand accounts added.

Just make sure that the sites that are on there dont use much processor power, ie static pages with images.

I would be really intrested to see what they did if the whole of WHT signedup for an account under you!

I would be really intrested to see what they did if the whole of WHT signedup for an account under you!

What do you think will happen? Do you expect the skies to open and The Texas Aggie band to ascend from the heavens? Only one thing will happen, the account will be closed, excuse me but...DUH!

Originally posted by Dave B
What do you think will happen? Do you expect the skies to open and The Texas Aggie band to ascend from the heavens? Only one thing will happen, the account will be closed, excuse me but...DUH!


What i ment was how mnay accounts would they let you get on?
How much bandwisth would they let you use?
How much diskspace would they let you use?
Would they warn you first?
Would they ajust their TOC?
What reason would they give for suspension or termination?
Would they rufund you at all?
Etc etc, i mean how do you know they wont try and cope with it for a few months and then realize its too much.

They say unlimited, so would it not be worth testing?
If they cut you off, depending on the reason, they may get removed from ebay for false advertising etc etc.

Thats what i ment, I knew they would cut you off at some point, im not *THAT* Stupid. I know an unlimited disk doesnt exist! (although google recon they have done it with gmail :-?

Just to test theys gusy out I setup an account with them. the reseller account is now online - make sure you guys pm me for an acccount lets fill these servers up and see if theyre real:)

By the looks of it they have 5 harddrives on a server(totals about 400 gb). Speeds obviously not a necessity to these guys..

/me waits for new account :)

Forget it; their support is horrible asking for a refund. I have a friend who has one of these accounts Im goign to just test it out with him (unlimited isnt it? why not share 1 account)

How much bandwisth would they let you use?
How much diskspace would they let you use?

If it was a fair value they would not hide it behind "unlimited", therefor it is a safe assumption that you would be worse off than if you went with a company who does offer a "fair value".

Would they warn you first?

Who cares? you will have to move to another server with or without a warning. Do it right the first time!

Would they ajust their TOC?
What reason would they give for suspension or termination?

Again, who cares? This is a reseller account, bound to be ordered by folks who resell. Are you (any reseller) willing to lose customers due to a foolish mistake on your part. Does any of this negate the fact after you have been suspended, files removed and customers lost?

Would they rufund you at all?
Etc etc, i mean how do you know they wont try and cope with it for a few months and then realize its too much.

You seem not to value your time or efforts very much. I cannot argue, only you know what your efforts are worth.

They say unlimited, so would it not be worth testing?

No it would not be. My mom taught me to "learn from your mistakes". I taught her that life is too short and I am better off learning by others mistakes.

If they cut you off, depending on the reason, they may get removed from ebay for false advertising etc etc.


Question: And that does what for you and your customers?
Answer: It lets you make the same mistake again when he signs up to ebay under a new name.


I know an unlimited disk doesnt exist!

Then why is this even being discussed?

just my thoughts

Dave

Dave, try searching ebay for unlimited hosting. You'll see that these guys have 1000000 feedbacks (all positive). That's pretty much the only reason im even TRYING these guys. I've just setup tree-host with an account, well see how things run for him. if anyone else would like to test feel free to PM me

That should be a red flag NOT a reason for ordering. I would feel very uncomfortable with a host who gets nothing but positive feedback. People report negatives, very few will report a positive experience. Sounds even more scammy now.

Dave

Well, I put 20$ into it but I'm going to ask for a refund. Friend has the same account might as well use his...its unlimited isnt it?

Good luck, My competitors are busy improving sites and adding content, if I took the time to play games with ebay hosts I would be left far behind.

P.S. 2 things have been proven thus far, by sending the money and right away asking for a refund, it shows what I am saying is true, you have not put much real thought into this. 2nd, just having this thread here shows that the Barnum play by these fraud hosts will always work.

These are no way unlimited as everyone says, and the guys selling these plans even admit it.

I remember one of them saying at the bottom that if you used up too much space you would need to purchase a dedicated server, so hardly unlimited is it?

The people that were advertising these things on ebay last week, are not there this week, but theres other people doing it instead. Very strange

Let me break this down into the most basic of format.

unlimited = the host will not set limits and will decide the limits arbitrarily so that the needs of the HOST are met.

OR

unlimited = the host will not tell the limits that they have set, they could not sell packages if they did.


Many hosts play the game "we do not set limits on space or transfer but if the cpu load is too high we will suspend you." If a host takes this stand then the onus should be on the host to clearly define in the same font and location as the unlimited bandwidth and space EXACTLY what the cpu limits are.

It's not possible to provide unlimited just domain, e-mail's are possible in unlimited but not web space and bandwidth.

Oh come on guys my Mom got me one of those unlimite hard drives back when I was ten. Ya know the one with the 128m buffer whoo was it fast. I bought myself a second one next year and I put them into a RAID array whoohoo was that amazing. Jk Jk Lol. Unlimited space and bandwidth make me giggle. When you find a Hard drive with unlimited space please PM me and I will give you 3 billion dollars for it. Thats like saying you have a bowl of unlimited mac and cheese. Youll hit the bottom of the bowl eventually.

This is only unreasonable marketing tactic. Dont believe them. Anything service can't be unlimited (bandwidth,web space etc.)

I hate to admit it bu I started off with one of those unlimited accounts off of eBay. It truely was unlimited for a time untill the owner who started the company sold out. I had no problems really and I was betting that he was gambling on the fact that most reseller users don't even use 10% of the space they were given, or in this case most use nothing at all and its just a play toy to them. I didn't start using it untill I started getting some real customers. To make up for it he charged an exorbitant fee for dedicated IP addresses ($4/ea). My customers balked at the IP price. The gist of the problem was that after he sold out the games began with the new owners and I was forced to leave if I wanted to keep the customers. Even with leaving, some of my customers were lost due to the fact that I was too forgiving for being down more than 24 hours. That was hard lesson learned. If you're serious about getting in to this business, stay clear from these. Most likely their support is lackadaisical and they have the attitude that they'll get to the problem when they get to it.

On the other hand I have a problem with someone getting an account with these silly providers and giving away free accounts to test them. It just seems malicious to me. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Tell us what happens with the unlimited host. I could always use a remote backup for my gigs of pics.

Its a scam not even worth the 10 bucks lol the company will go within the first 3 months garuntee it or better yet buy it and put about 100 gigs of bandwith on them see if your accounts last a day after that lol.

i started about 2 years ago with a unlimited reseller aco**** from fatnetworks.net. They are power sellers on ebay and i have truley never had a problem with. Not promoting it but at one time ihave nearly 200 sites on the server using quite a big amount of bandwidth adn they never complained. There uspport is usually within 5 hours of a new ticket. i have since moved to my own dedicated servers. So for someone starting out it is not really to bad of an idea.

I once signed up with one of these guys, and the experience was a waste of time and money. The server was majorly overloaded, and everything was capped.