Intel Pentium 4 2.8GHz
• 80GB IDE Hard Drive
• 1024MB RAM
• Bandwidth: 1000GB
• IP Addresses: 8 (5 usable)
• Private VLAN
• Linux

On average, how many domains do you think we can host on a server with the above specs?

1 if the website or database is around 80 GB in size.

8000 if they are small sites with no traffic at all...

Point being...

It totally depends on the size and demands of the sites you are placing on that server.

We never put over 50 customers on one server and our servers are twice as powerful if not more then the specs you posted... Crowding a server is the wost thing you could do, it will crash and cause you nothing but problems... Low ball the users and your life will be easier.

C

Oh. 50 customers on a single server. That little huh...

Anyone has a second opinion? How many average domains/customers do you think we can host on a server with the above specs?

Originally posted by BetterLife
Intel Pentium 4 2.8GHz
• 80GB IDE Hard Drive
• 1024MB RAM
• Bandwidth: 1000GB
• IP Addresses: 8 (5 usable)
• Private VLAN
• Linux

On average, how many domains do you think we can host on a server with the above specs?
287







































Just kidding. :D

The answer is, there is no answer to your question. There are sooooo many variables to take into consideration. Like what size accounts are you placing on the server - what will those clients be expecting to do on your server?

Lots to consider, and it comes down to your business model and business plan, as to your needed revenue per server.

Originally posted by BetterLife
Oh. 50 customers on a single server. That little huh...
No, that's a LOT of domains, as MegaHosters offers unlimited domain packages. So that would be 50 accounts/clients per server, and then that would be 50 x the number of domains that their clients create with their "unlimited domain" packages.
Anyone has a second opinion? How many average domains/customers do you think we can host on a server with the above specs?
What is your target revenue/mth for your server/s?

Originally posted by Aussie Bob
287


Man oh man, according to my initial calculation it came out to be exactly 289!

Average my and Bob's estimates together... 288 it is! :stickout:

shamefully [/ot] ;)

If we were to host only 50 customers on a server, then the price for the hosting plans must be high. This will not be competitive these days because the prices are really much lower for many other providers.... Although they may squeeze many clients on a server and thus making it slow, but many customers do not understand... For many customers, price is still the most important.

Originally posted by BetterLife
If we were to host only 50 customers on a server, then the price for the hosting plans must be high. This will not be competitive these days because the prices are really much lower for many other providers.... Although they may squeeze many clients on a server and thus making it slow, but many customers do not understand... For many customers, price is still the most important.
You have to convince the customers that price is not important. You can put more than 50 customers on this box depending on their usage. But, just a question:

Why are you worrying so much about getting the cheapest dedicated server? You should be worrying out making your business plan where you can charge appropriate prices, oversell responsibily, and compete on service. If you're going to compete on price you're going to be like every other joe schmo host out there. Don't do that!

-GSV

It isnt about your pricing, its about customer satisfaction...if you cant keep your customers services 100% and with a good reliable serving space for them then there will be a problem, i recomend taking several of the lower spec P4 or xeon servers and then limit each one to 24 clients, that way you lower costs but keep all your clients happy.

I am worrying about the pricing because I can see that a lot of users coming to my website and left.... We website is as good as any other websites, but just that the pricing is not attractive enough. You don't get a chance to explain to them on the higher price :(

For us, our average is about 200-300, there's no fixed formula, basically you monitor a new server CPU, bandwidth usage etc and make a decision when to stop adding for a particular server. A small but popular forum can eat up a lot of CPU compared to a big site with all html.

Originally posted by sketchy
It isnt about your pricing, its about customer satisfaction...if you cant keep your customers services 100% and with a good reliable serving space for them then there will be a problem, i recomend taking several of the lower spec P4 or xeon servers and then limit each one to 24 clients, that way you lower costs but keep all your clients happy.

How much do you think you need to charge the clients for that? 24 clients per xeon server...

200-300 sounds more reasonable.

If you're just starting in the web hosting business I would suggest that you take the following into consideration:
1. Your cost of working, make sure your prices include enough money to hire people to work for you for say every 300 clients.

2. You must have be backing up your server, it's just plain stupid if you aren't. Check out www.bqbackup.com. Also, get a secondary drive on the server where you can do nightly backups or even, RAID1.

3. Cost of growth, make sure you have enough money to purchase a new server if your growth needs it.

I really think you should start with a reseller. Oh and did I mention, NOT a cheap reseller account.

-GSV

291.273, on average.

Why do people continually ask this? Do they not use the search feature?

(BTW, I went to make a firefox search plugin today, then when testing my plugin realized someone posted one about a week ago, doh!)

Every server's different. Every plan's different. And further more, every account is different. A guy using 100 MB's of space and 2 GB's of bandwidth a month using static html will cause completely different harm than someone with a 100 mb sql file.

It's...just....not....answerable.

I like the analogy "How many people will fit in a room?"

You can't answer that question either.

--Tina

On one P4 we've got 3 website on another we've got 500. As everyone else has said there is no firm limit. I can tell you that 21 people will however fit into a Mini Cooper

http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000483025185/

Rus

Yeah, we have 1000+ on one AMD 2400 (and could fit 1000 more)..and on another we host one popular rock band's website and it sometimes maxes out.

--Tina

Originally posted by AH-Tina
I like the analogy "How many people will fit in a room?"

You can't answer that question either.

--Tina

Heres another one...

"How long is a ball of string?"

Very hard question to answer...best thing to do is have some servers on standby and when you need them use them.

Originally posted by BetterLife
I am worrying about the pricing because I can see that a lot of users coming to my website and left.... We website is as good as any other websites, but just that the pricing is not attractive enough. You don't get a chance to explain to them on the higher price :(

You do get a chance to explain...the second they hit your website it should explain ;)

Let me ask you this:

What makes you different from all the other hosts?

Originally posted by justadollarhostin
You do get a chance to explain...the second they hit your website it should explain ;)

Let me ask you this:

What makes you different from all the other hosts?

As far as I can see, the most obvious difference is the price. We are more expensive than most of the other hosting providers in my country. Of course there are a couple other providers which priced their hosting packages in our range (expensive), but they are more established, they are the pioneers in the country.

Originally posted by vaserv
On one P4 we've got 3 website on another we've got 500. As everyone else has said there is no firm limit. I can tell you that 21 people will however fit into a Mini Cooper

http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000483025185/

Rus

loool, that mini cooper article is really funny.

Originally posted by BetterLife
As far as I can see, the most obvious difference is the price. We are more expensive than most of the other hosting providers in my country. Of course there are a couple other providers which priced their hosting packages in our range (expensive), but they are more established, they are the pioneers in the country.

I don't think you put the correct train of thought into my question.

I'm faced with you as a host for: $15 or John as a host for $5. Tell me why I should go with you. What do you have that John doesn't have? What will it do for me? What features can you offer me as a client that no other hosts can offer me? Once you figure these out, put them on the front of your webpage for all your visitors to see.

If you have realistic pricing and don't hang yourself by the short ones offering the world for peanuts figure 200-300 or so, it will be much less if you have larger accounts but again this is based on a basic shared hosting packages which is far from the what you see here typically offered on WHT.

you can run about 80-150 mid-size clients

Originally posted by Ivan23
you can run about 80-150 mid-size clients


What exactly is a "mid size" client? Our mid size client would be 6 GB space and about 150 GB bandwidth. Surely you don't suggest we put 150 of those clients on the machine he was speaking of?

My point...you can't tell how many clients will fit on a machine.

--Tina

Maybe he was talking about his mid-size client package?

http://www.servertweak.com/index.php?categoryid=13

Should have specified though.

150 customers! It's will enough!

Originally posted by holyway
150 customers! It's will enough!


Huh? :confused:

--Tina

Originally posted by AH-Tina
What exactly is a "mid size" client? Our mid size client would be 6 GB space and about 150 GB bandwidth. Surely you don't suggest we put 150 of those clients on the machine he was speaking of?


hee hee

Maybe he will want to sell us some of those 900 GB drives, I must have missed the release of those! :P

C

Originally posted by MegaHosters
hee hee

Maybe he will want to sell us some of those 900 GB drives, I must have missed the release of those! :P

C
Actually, he *could* have 1TB of space in a RAID5 array. But, who would do that with a Pentium 4? ;)

Cheers,