how much you think it would cost me to colocate a wireless router in the San Antonio , Texas area

the wireless router i was thinking maybe have a 1MB connect or 10MB co nnection whatever they call it.. or maybe limited by BW but i don't know how much BW i would need...

i was thinking i could add a few wireless routers in differnt DCs, maybe buy a t1 line. Connec tthe wireless routers.. allow local cable/SDSL users to resell BW for a little adding to the BW allowed and run ALL p2p applications (file trading)only through the local machines not the internet.. and run a proxy (transparent) cahce server through it... does this sound ok? even if not i still would like to know how much a wireless router and maybe a few gateways?? would cost me..

I have visions of you stringing antenna cable and an antenna out the window of the 9th floor of a colo-site?

Or am I misunderstanding?

yes in order for the wireless router to be any good a antimna would have to be put outside :D

not just a little bunny ear thing inside or that will only go a few feet insted of farther :D

the idea isn't to have big Cell phone towers liek other wireless 'dsl' isps but just to offer a pretty cheap option to people in a lcoal area and then put them in differnt close areas ie.. small units interlocked to make a bigger network

9th floor? hmm well i was assuming the data center would be only one floor but heck if it is a big tall building putting the antiea up on top would be even better :D

for more information for people wondering WTF i am tlaking about

Prerequisite:

High speed Internet connection (DSL, Cable, T1, etc.) unless you're implementing a wireless-only solution
Note: Before proceeding, note the following warnings / cautions:


unless you have the ComputerRouter with a captive / active portal setup, you might be at risk from people abusing your link. (Think liability.)
if amplifying the signal, you're more likely to exceed FCC regulations. Be aware of what you can and can't do before turning it on.
if you do want to mount an antenna outside, put some kind of a lightning arrestor on your cable. Houston, and Harris county, have [one of highest cloud to ground lightning rates] anywhere in the Gulf coast area. You wouldn't want to risk frying your AP, your computers, or yourself, would you?
climbing a roof or antenna is dangerous.
Some example node configurations (with estimated pricing):


Wired Node (low cost)

Linksys BEFW11S4 (wireless router and hub) (commonly available for $200 these days) or Agere RG-1000 or RG-1100 ($170-220)
(optional, recommended) ComputerRouter (free or higher)
Total out of pocket cost can be as little as $200 or lower. However, your range will be quite limited. (A few hundred feet.) To get more range, you'll need an antenna and/or an amplifier.


Wired Node (mid cost)

Linksys BEFW11S4 (wireless router and hub) or Orinoco RG-1000 (residential gateway) or RG-1100 (broadband gateway) ($170-220)
Cables, adapters (about $100, depending on length)
8 to 15 dBi Omni directional antenna ($100-200)
(optional, recommended) ComputerRouter (free or higher)
For less than $400 you can set up an access point with an omni directional antenna. If you want to mount the omni outside, expect to pay another $100-200 for a lightning arrestor and a mast.


Wired Node (deluxe)

Orinoco RG-1000 (residential gateway), RG-1100, or Cisco AP or bridge ($200-500+)
Cables, adapters ($100-200, depending on length)
Amplifier ($300-500)
8 to 15 dBi Omni directional antenna ($100-200)
Mast or guyed antenna ($100+)
(optional, recommended) ComputerRouter (free or higher)
For $800-1500, you would have a high quality node that could cover a large area (if you have the antenna mounted sufficiently high). Many, if not all, amplifiers have integrated lightning protection, so a separate lightning arrestor may not be necessary.

How large of an area? A square mile or more, perhaps. (Numbers would be nice...)

Note: With this kind of a setup, you definitely need to make sure you aren't over amplifying the signal and exceeding FCC regulations.


Wired Node (cost no object)

3-4+ Orinoco business AP or Cisco AP or bridge ($500-1000/ea)
3-4 amps ($300-500/ea)
3-4, 6-8 sector antennas ($200-700/ea)
1+ mid-gain omni, e.g. 8 dBi ($100)
(optional) several mid-to-high gain patch or parabolic antennas ($50-200/ea)
High quality self supporting or guyed antenna ($500-1000+)
Misc cables ($200-500+)
(optional, recommended) ComputerRouter (free or higher)
This would be truly a breathtaking node. Of course the $5000 to $10,000 (or even higher) it would take to build such a node would also be breathtaking.

But look at what you get:


1 or more omnis (along with APs) cover nearby clients. (Multiple omnis could give you frequency reuse.)
Amplified sector antennas cover 90-120 degree swaths in the mid distance clients. Dual antennas per sector give you antenna diversity.
Patch or parabolic antennas could create point to point links over very long distances.
If done properly you could probably support a large number of clients over quite a large area. Plus you'd have what looked sort of like a cell phone tower in your back yard. :-)

Note: With this kind of a setup, you definitely need to make sure you aren't over amplifying the signal and exceeding FCC regulations.

i was thinking maybe the

Wired Node (deluxe)

or less...
and since a t1, t3 costs money.. and since a data center with fireprotection, good BW, backup power would be better then just buying cable lines .. i thought colocating to a DC would make since .. can anyone tell me if i am crazy?

so that would be 2,000 * how many nodes
initial cost + the colocation cost of what maybe 200?

+ other junk too

I wonder if SSL could protect against a connection being sent through the radio waves ;).

Of course, you could also beam them through microwaves like a cell phone, but then again for only a few customers you'd probably have to beam right to them and hope a bird doesn't fly through the path...