I know the view of unlimited on here is not good at all and this is also my personal view, however i was wondering about something. Before i bought my first reseller account with a company who say they have unlimited disc space i knew that this was not possible and as they have a bandwidth limit i knew that for one, the discspace would be limited by the bandwidth allowance.
Do other people realise these things or do people really think that offering unlimited discspace is possible???

not really limited at all, you just use your 50 gb a month to upload only :) unlimited diskspace isnt really possible, you can keep adding arrays and nas but its a gimmick \ con , unlimited autoresponders is one thing, unlimited bandwidth and space is simply dishonesty.

I don't think a lot of people think of the logic behind unlimited bandwidth. They just look at the dollar amount and the "value" of it.

Originally posted by richy
unlimited bandwidth and space is simply dishonesty.

What about unlimited domains? Given that each one has a certain amount of overhead system space taken up, regardless of how small each domain is there is still going to be a limit.

Cheers

Gary

thats not really as bad, as the number of domains is limited by the number of chars you can use and the number that have already been bought. i do see your point and it is totally valid, but its just not soo much of bad thing. people say unlimited domains knowing theyre not goingto be tested on it much, those that do the bandwidth \ space are just after conning people in general. its like going to a garage and them saying you can have as many paper towels or use of the air compressor \ water hose as you want as compared to you can have all the gas you want for 10 bucks.

Originally posted by Editor


What about unlimited domains? Given that each one has a certain amount of overhead system space taken up, regardless of how small each domain is there is still going to be a limit.

Cheers

Gary

Not really, someone can add unlimited domains if there is no space taken up on either one. What most people mean when advertising unlimited domains is that the person can use as many as needed/wanted. This is completly different than advertising unlimited space/bandwidth because it is possible to live up to unlimited domains, unlike space and bandwidth.

Originally posted by fractiousws


Not really, someone can add unlimited domains if there is no space taken up on either one. What most people mean when advertising unlimited domains is that the person can use as many as needed/wanted. This is completly different than advertising unlimited space/bandwidth because it is possible to live up to unlimited domains, unlike space and bandwidth.

I agree with you on this one. It is possible to offer unlimited domains but not disk space or bandwidth. Tell me if I'm wrong but that could be basically saying, unlimited servers...you fill up one 30GB harddrive, so they're just going to stick you on another server as well for the same price?...if you fill that up you get another?...doesn't make sense.

For $4.95 you can get unlimited EVERYTHING at a host (I don't remember who), check the TOS it's really not unlimited.

Watch out..

There is a long recent thread about this
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41035
I think that doesn't worth a new one

Just my 2 centravos

that thread is not the same, it asks if unlimited bandwidth is possible. I know its not i was asking if people really take it as unlimited or whether they consider other features of the package which may limit it

well i think it does worth a new one . just because people have discussed a topic before doesnt prohit another angle being discussed :)
its an interesting point, many hosts offer unlimited domains \autoresponders etc , how valid is this? well i stand by the free unlimied air and water at a garage analogy. its not in the same league.

So...unlimited domains within a limited amount of diskspace is not even remotely misleading? Forgetting for a moment, that it will no doubt lead to high server loads and poor performance...it just isn't physically possible. In my opinion, it's no less a play on words than unlimited bandwidth within a limited budget. Sure it's more workable, with a team of support staff can be set to juggling resources and man hours to "make it work".

Cheers

Gary

plus theres the whole never going to happen anyway thing, i mean its way WAY more likely to trouble a host offering unlimited space \ bandwidth, i mean how easy is it for someone to buy an accoutn with em and mirror rivastation or viahardware and them get messed up, plenty of people have trouble sites theyd like to offload, how many people are going to spend time and money buying enough domains to trouble a server? its just a different scale. its not that it isnt slightly misleading, it is, but its just not in the same league. what the host is saying is that your not really going to be able to trouble our server so we dont really care, if you want to put on 1000 domains then you just had to pay 10000 in domain fees and type em all in, plus the host gets to say we now host 1000 more domains. im not saying your wrong at all, just that personally i dont think its such a drastic problem. unlim bw and space will be abused and many people will get booted for abuse.

Originally posted by richy
personally i dont think its such a drastic problem

It is for those resellers caught up on astonishingly high load servers, being asked to shuffle sites around. I certainly wouldn't be proud to proclaim I host another 1000 sites if those sites are generally not happy stepping over each other for a few system resources.

I could be wrong, but I think it's going to become a much more drastic problem.

Cheers

Gary

i was under the impression we are talking about unlimited domains but with fixed resources i.e. space and bandwidth? are we not. just adding an extra domain that uses no space other than a few 100 bytes of conf entries and no bandwidth wont cause a server problems. if you have 10 gb or bw and 1 gb of space and divide it equally between 10 100 or a million domains (well ok maybe not a million :))there not going to be too much of a load difference if they all use their % of resources.
i sympathise with the reseller angle, i know its not right having to move accounts round but when you buy your plan you know how much space and bw you have to sell, you make up your plans. if you exceed your allowances then thats your fault, simply adding a domain with forwarding to another acount will increase the resource useage in line with the amount added.

I think we're loosely in agreeance...I could be reading too much into it. Time will tell on these things I guess.

Cheers

Gary

:) i think i prolly completely missed the point lol yeah i dont majorly disagree, to advertise anything as unlimited when it cant in reality be is wrong. its just a question of how wrong and what are the effects. i personally wouldnt be hard on someone selling a reseller plan with unlim domains as unlim space, but thats just me. altho far too many people offer unlimited things they shouldnt.

By posting this i didnt mean i agree with it, i think its totally wrong that hosts advertise unlimited when its impossible and i think there should be some way to stop them
My question was basically how many people believe that they are getting unlimited space?

lol well that depends on how many nutters maggie T released under care in the community doesnt it :)

lol i reaaaaaaly want that unlimited harddrive that donhost have. must be worth a fortune.

LOL dont we all