To all the wise ones on this forum, help...

I have been very fortunate not to have encountered many problems to date, with these puerile germs who distribute viruses (or is it virii? etLux?), bombs etc, but one of my servers is currently being used to upload some very nasty stuff (as a web site for such things).

The piece of s*** in question is moving it from another free hosting service to one that I recently set up for those who want to tinker for free.

This is not just software piracy, it's real nasty looking stuff.

I have tracked him to an IP and an ISP etc, but I haven't deleted his files yet for two reasons.

1. He may provide me with enough info to track him geographically, whereupon I can have my own version of the CDS visit him, and/or

2. One of my servers is with an NOC which recently suffered a DDoS attack (messy) and I'm still trying to employ adequate security measures myself. I am thinking of my customers who may be subjected to any retribution from this flea if I whack him.

I'm naturally short tempered and would like to p*** on his motherboard, but I'm not sure how to go, being quite inexperienced in these matters.

As this is a subject of interest to most, I think, could anyone make any suggestions as to the 'intelligent' thing to do here?

Thank you for any input, chaps and chappettes.

Cheers.

I would suggest you wait and see how things go. Get as much information you can on him. Let his site go live, and tell your NOC about it simultaneosly. Confirm where he stays, and bang, attack him :)

I would agree with Kunal - for now. Stay cool, don't let him you know, and try and get as much of your info out of the way. Alert law enforcement agencies in his town once you get enough info and then move in when the time is right. Ideally you should have enforcement backup of some sort so that your butt is covered should you run into trouble with this guy later on in future.

;) Yes, thanks guys. That's what I thought.

I've emailed the ISP who has the IP he used to upload (base10) but not heard anything yet... with my luck, it's probably his uncle's company heh heh. I'd LOVE to find out he was in Oz, eh BC?

Felix, bwahahahahaha :D If he was.... And he happened to be in either of the big two cities, I think we all know what would happen ;)

Good luck trying to get the ISP to reply, almost every ISP we have ever contacted about a hacking attempt fails to return calls or emails.

Well Charles, I can understand your comment. I can't even get some ISP's to respond when I want to pay them for service...:)

Do you have any particular policy with these things?

I'm tempted to try the email address (hotmail of course) he left and suggest he just **** OFF to browner pastures.

Maybe I'll suggest he consider a dedicated server from cobaltracks.com???

(I suppose that's out of line)

It's like having a rabid dog lurking nearby.

Thanks a lot guys, no need to labour this thread anymore, I'll follow my gut I guess.

Cheers.
(how DO you get all those great little smilies??)

Originally posted by felix220
(how DO you get all those great little smilies??)

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/index.php?action=showsmilies

Check out the smilies here :)

You would be looking for this link (http://www.webhostlink.com/index.php?action=showsmilies), which is present when you do a post/reply/editing of the post/thread.

Beat you to that one, BC ;)

*mutters* B-a-s-t-a-r-d.... :bawling:

j/k :D

You should never have shown me that guys. I have to try it just once.

This IS my final post for this thread, promise.


ME and the HACKER ---> :uzi: :scatter:


Cheers,
:beer:

*hands BC a Handkerchief*

Better luck next time :)

Originally posted by felix220


ME and the HACKER ---> :uzi: :scatter:


Cheers,
:beer:


eeeks!!!! It should be

"ME and the CRACKER ---> :uzi: :scatter:"

Hackers are good guys :)

on the basis that I want to be a responsible forum member I have emailed you kunal. no more here.

LOL! :D

When I worked tech support for ****************** we had a problem with someone trying to break into our networks. At first i tried to contact the person via email, to confront them, i figured maybe they were just finding holes and didn't mean harm. That's when he upload porn to a bunch of customers and sick images that should never be seen. ;-( I was feeling helpless and extrememly pissed. I don't recomment this method below!!! But here is what i did.

First i traced his ip, and found his ISP
I called the ISP and bullsh*ted that i was from the corporate office and claimed to be the ceo (first i called and asked the first rep who was the president of the company so i would know the name) I then told the rep that is was me (ceo) and that i wanted the account that was on this IP at such and such time. After about ten minutes to my suprise he came back with all the account data including the address. To my suprise the person was living not three miles from our offices. I was pretty sure it was a kid because the account was registered to a MR. & MS. and i doubted any of them had hacker handles. So, i burned a cd with all the nasty images and files that the person had put on my server, i waited till dinner time. This is the part that took balls...

I knocked on there door and female came to the door, i told her were i work and how we had been hacked and that i traced it here, i asked if she had a teenager and she said yes. I then pulled out my laptop and told her that she should see the stuff that her son was posting (she said the computer was his) so i sat there in their living room and showed them the most disgusting images on my laptop, you should have seen her and her husbands faces, and the kid was shaking... i gave them the cd and asked them to make sure he didn't do it again. and left. the parents apoligized like i'd never seen 2 people, i think they were afraid i was going to ruin his life.

LOL never did i have a problem again.

Originally posted by felix220
...viruses (or is it virii? etLux?)

Actually, viruses is correct.

Hey, you asked.

Actually it is Virii :)

Originally posted by kunal
Actually it is Virii :)

Correct!

Maybe goat farmers spell it differently! :D

I only know what the dictionary tells me up, sic: http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=virus

Brian - Gutsy! But I like it. :)

Ooops. I meant Brain.

Thank you etLux.

Yes, I also have the 'Goat Farmers' edition of the Concise Oxford, which refers to virology as the study of 'viruses', not 'virii'.

There's every chance your American dictionaries have altered that, but I've never bothered opening one to check the damage.

I was also chastised for using the word 'hacker' to describe the piece of garbage that inspired this thread.

My only comment here is that some people MAY BE spending so much time lurking around this and other forums, that they have lost touch with the comtemporary nomenclature for the various 'job descriptions' of persons in this industry at large...:rolleyes:

However, since the person who drew everyone's attention to my 'faux pas' laughed at one of my jokes earlier, I am prepared to concede that this was a display of my own ignorance.

:wavey: to kunal....

[Edited by felix220 on 12-29-2000 at 12:47 PM]

Lol.. I forgotten my english.. but in the underground world, a computer virus is known as Virii

Originally posted by etLux
I only know what the dictionary tells me up, sic: http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=virus

Touche

I believe I was wrr..r
I believe I was wrr..r
I believe I was mistaken.
:emlaugh:

Takes a very big person to admit they were wrong...I mean mistaken


HEHEHEHEHE, But its funny when its not me, usually is though.

Originally posted by brain2b
When I worked tech support for ****************** we had a problem with someone trying to break into our networks. At first i tried to contact the person via email, to confront them, i figured maybe they were just finding holes and didn't mean harm. That's when he upload porn to a bunch of customers and sick images that should never be seen. ;-( I was feeling helpless and extrememly pissed. I don't recomment this method below!!! But here is what i did.

First i traced his ip, and found his ISP
I called the ISP and bullsh*ted that i was from the corporate office and claimed to be the ceo (first i called and asked the first rep who was the president of the company so i would know the name) I then told the rep that is was me (ceo) and that i wanted the account that was on this IP at such and such time. After about ten minutes to my suprise he came back with all the account data including the address. To my suprise the person was living not three miles from our offices. I was pretty sure it was a kid because the account was registered to a MR. & MS. and i doubted any of them had hacker handles. So, i burned a cd with all the nasty images and files that the person had put on my server, i waited till dinner time. This is the part that took balls...

I knocked on there door and female came to the door, i told her were i work and how we had been hacked and that i traced it here, i asked if she had a teenager and she said yes. I then pulled out my laptop and told her that she should see the stuff that her son was posting (she said the computer was his) so i sat there in their living room and showed them the most disgusting images on my laptop, you should have seen her and her husbands faces, and the kid was shaking... i gave them the cd and asked them to make sure he didn't do it again. and left. the parents apoligized like i'd never seen 2 people, i think they were afraid i was going to ruin his life.

LOL never did i have a problem again.

Wow ...what a tale. Serious balls to do that though. ;)