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ExtremeDude86
12-24-2000, 12:47 PM
Are there problems when puttin you VBulletin on your LiquidWeb hosting account? I heard they don't allow it if it starts tog et a lot of users. I also heard that they don't like the way it is et up with MySQL so they wouls shut it down. Is this true?

mkaufman
12-24-2000, 01:34 PM
Well one of my friends was on LiquidWeb.com with vBulletin.

He ended up having to move after like one week because his site was using up 1800% of the system resources? Although, he should've been on a dedicated server anyway..

I wouldn't recommend LiquidWeb, the servers are down a lot of there are other errors such as 403's for no appereant reason.

cbaker17
12-24-2000, 02:16 PM
1800%, how do you exceed 100%??? :)

JustinK
12-24-2000, 02:50 PM
Maybe the site somehow managed to drain the lifeforce out of nearby servers... anyway. If you do have a popular growing board a dedicated server is the way to go. So far just about every post I've seen dealing with popular boards has ended/been answered with getting a dedicated server.

ExtremeDude86
12-24-2000, 03:05 PM
What is your feinds URL? Let me compare tos ee if is like his. Where did he move to>?

mkaufman
12-24-2000, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by cbaker17
1800%, how do you exceed 100%??? :)

Yeah, I don't know :) But that's what he said... :D

His site is http://www.lyricsh.com/

Not sure where he moved to.

ExtremeDude86
12-24-2000, 04:08 PM
First of al, that link doesn't work, next can you ask him where he moved... Thanks

-Edward-
12-24-2000, 04:14 PM
http://www.cais.com/ - Thats where that site is pointed at from looking at the dns.

How much bandwidth etc etc do u require?

ExtremeDude86
12-24-2000, 04:48 PM
30 gigs

ExtremeDude86
12-24-2000, 04:52 PM
Just found out that they don't do custom packages anymore.

ExtremeDude86
12-24-2000, 07:17 PM
I'm going with LiquidWeb. I talked to administrators there and they said that they have only had one incident with Vbulletin, here it is:

"We have actually only had one incident as you described with a "Marcus Thompson" who was completely over-running a dual PIII 600 server by himself basically (which takes a LOT of traffic, enough that he should be on a dedicated server)

Other websites were non-functional as a result, and we had to take action quickly.

Many other users run v-bulletin with no problems on our machines.

Our true concern is in supplying users with the best host experience possible. We've had users transferring 30 gigabytes every 10 days that never experienced downtime, we simply had them moved to a dedicated machine as soon as possible, and they understood that at such levels of transfer such action is neccessary.

Our uptime is phenominal, we have almost no downtime, the downtime which does exist is for hardware upgrades and is carried out completely off peak hours."

So I really don't have any more reasons not to go with them.

RaviPachai
12-30-2000, 03:48 PM
Hi,

I run lyricsh.com, I was with liquidweb from the beginning of December. I have moved because this is the response I got from one of their staff:

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Your ticket has been completed. Reference Number:977186918

Your account has been permanently disabled due to the fact it was using 1800% of
the machines resources, AGAIN! You almost killed the machine... AGAIN! You only
have two choice to get your web site up and running, move to another host OR get
a dedicated DS2 server. We can not put you on anything else except a dedicated
machine, that's how much you where hurting our machine and our other customers.
If you wish to have a dedicated machine then you may fill out an order form for
it on our web page.

Thanks for using the Liquid Web Inc Help Desk
Let us know if we can be of any further assistance.
-----

Now matt got it wrong, it wasn't vBulletin that they are talking about..it was my search. I have a database with over 50,000 records so...however when we first set up vBulletin the site kept on getting "Unable to connect to database" which was Liquid Web's fault. An "ok" host but one of their support guys is really bad. I had to spend 20 minutes of the phone explaining to him how to do something and we kept going around in circles.

I am on a dedicated host at CAIS.com now and that isn't exactly turning out to be the best experience because I don't own the server :)..ah well.

Ravi

William
12-30-2000, 07:04 PM
Liquidweb Servers on rare blue moons go down,andonly for a reboot. They use high end equipment and the staff maintains the servers very well.

"Believe me i know :)"

I honestly never had a problem with liquidweb in the 3 years, i have known them.

I strongly recommend them for hosting.

RaviPachai
12-30-2000, 09:45 PM
I havent been with them long enough to say whether they are good or bad. I didn't have any "negative" comments to say about them, other then the small one when I spent 20 minutes on the phone.

However, Liquidweb is good but fact is it doesn't cater to everyone. If your site attracts high traffic (even if it doesnt transfer more then the 30 gigs they offer), and occupies alot of the system resources then obviously they will get rid of your account. I just don't think there are many sites which can transfer 30 gigs without occupying "alot" of resources...because they kind of go hand in hand with each other. :)

Ravi

William
12-30-2000, 11:09 PM
It goes with the old saying you get what you pay for, many people who run message boards or related, don't make much.

SO they tend to hop from 1 host to another, look at it this way also, if you had 50 $24.95 accounts and 1 account was killing the Server, and they didn`t want to "get a dedicated" what would you do ?

A: Ignore it
B: Dump em
C: Build another server and move him.

Lets answer this honestly........

A: you could loose the Business, if other clients feel it slow down.

B: Your the bad guy now, and you will get bad reports on the net that you throw people off.

c: Spend $1,500.00 on a new server cause you are a Great hosting company, and willing to wait 3 years to make money on that server.

It can be a tough situation sometimes.

RaviPachai
12-31-2000, 12:08 AM
I'm not sure if you're referring to my experience / site so I will reply to it as you are.

1) I did not say I had any personal problems with liquid web or the way they run their company.

2) My main point in the last post (if you didn't catch it) was that Liquid Web appears to offer something which really doesn't mean much but looks good. I.E. They offer 30 gigs of transfer they say when in reality most sites which transfer 30 gigs will occupy to many resources so alot of sites won't actually get to make use of the 30 gig transfer because they get kicked off for occupying to many resources.

3) I don't run a "message board" or related site and I don't jump from host to host as over the last 3 years I have had a total of 3 different hosts and thats due to growth in my website.

Like I said Liquid Web is good, I had a few problems signing up because when my account was created because it wasn't a new domain they said the account was created and the email that it auto sends out was sending out locally as my site resided on their servers (so it never reached my actual e-mail but the e-mail that had been set up for my liquid web account). So it took longer then expected to get my site up and running, had a few problems with mySQL because of liquidweb but they were dealt with farely quickly. I have spent almost a year and a half with my last host powersurge.net and while I didnt like everything they did they were very good with support and normally replied within an hour or two.

Jeff Rambo
12-31-2000, 12:53 AM
Bandwidth and Resources don't always go hand and hand.

I can't tell what kind of site it is that you run since it's currently down, but I am going to *assume* it is a lyrics site by the domain.

If you take OHHLA.com, they probably transfer *ATLEAST* 40GBs per month, and most likely more. And the last time I checked, they were on a virtual server. Why aren't they getting the eviction notice? Because, their site is mostly text with very little graphics. Not extensive search options (Which is where most lyric sites get the short end of the stick) and other CGI/ASP/PHP/mySQL files etc. which would then warrant you brining up Resources issues.

LiquidWeb could very well be able to handle 30GB of transfer per month. Thats using basic files such as html/htm, gif, jpg etc. Not big over-processing scripts.

If you're driving a Ford Expedition 90MPH on the Freeway/Highway from Los Angeles to Las Vegas and you get angry because you have to stop to get gas every 1hr ... who are you going to blame? Ford for not making the gas tank big enough to support the speed/milege of travel? Or yourself for wanting to drive faster than the speed limit allows without taking the precautions into consideration? Are you going to say Ford lies to their customers because you can't go faster than everyone else?

RaviPachai
12-31-2000, 09:02 AM
Look at my post, I didn't say every site did I? I said most...and yes when OHHLA.com did have their search up, it killed the server.

Ravi