A friend and I are planning on purchasing a package from rackshack.net, (the amd xp1700, 512mb ram, 400gb bandwidth, 40gb diskspace.) I was just wondering if anyone had ANY idea, about how many sites we could expect to host on 1 of these servers without killing it? Just a rough idea would help a lot. I was thinking at least 200-300 without slowing it down? Am I way off?

Thanks
Nate

It really depends on what kind of account you offer...

For semi dedicated server plan, around 10 accounts would be max.

For general account which are US 10 ~ 25, 100 ~ 200 accounts... although I wouldn't recommend 300 accounts on a server..

512 RAM isn't much for a server, get at least 1GB of ram.

Originally posted by nsanden
A friend and I are planning on purchasing a package from rackshack.net, (the amd xp1700, 512mb ram, 400gb bandwidth, 40gb diskspace.) I was just wondering if anyone had ANY idea, about how many sites we could expect to host on 1 of these servers without killing it? Just a rough idea would help a lot. I was thinking at least 200-300 without slowing it down? Am I way off?

Thanks
Nate

I dont think that system would even break a sweat with 200-300 sites on it . I have heard of hosts putting 500+ sites on the 1ghz systems.. But then again if the sites are all resource intensive it would have a different outcome.

Originally posted by OKIHost


I dont think that system would even break a sweat with 200-300 sites on it . I have heard of hosts putting 500+ sites on the 1ghz systems.. But then again if the sites are all resource intensive it would have a different outcome.

I've heard the same. I'm reselling right now for a crapy company, and I know for a fact they have at least 4-5 hundred sites on their 800mhz p3's. But then again the sites load SLOW. Either their network is crap or they overload their servers. My guess is they overload thier servers.

It totally depends on what the customers are doing. You could get a customer who has a 200 MB mysql database and queries it 30 times a second. That would completely take up all of your system resources. I would plan on 150-200 customers per server, anymore than that would probably not give all of your customers room to grow.

Originally posted by klisis
It really depends on what kind of account you offer...

For semi dedicated server plan, around 10 accounts would be max.

For general account which are US 10 ~ 25, 100 ~ 200 accounts... although I wouldn't recommend 300 accounts on a server..

512 RAM isn't much for a server, get at least 1GB of ram.

I thought 512 was pretty standard. Idealy, how much ram would you want with a 1.4ghz cpu?

Originally posted by jic
It totally depends on what the customers are doing. You could get a customer who has a 200 MB mysql database and queries it 30 times a second. That would completely take up all of your system resources. I would plan on 150-200 customers per server, anymore than that would probably not give all of your customers room to grow.

I can limit things like that though right? Mysql db's, sizes, db calls, bandwidth for each client.

yes you can using the control panel the server comes with, (that's if you're buying a server with a control panel...)

Hi Nate,

I believe this is relative. I would analyze the activities in the web server, and if the CPU resource usage is about 50%-70%, you may want to upgrade. Memory helps a lot. :)

But if you're like me, I will upgrade it today just in case. It's always nice to have bigger memory.

Reyner

Thanks for the info everyone.

Putting it simply, depends on the sites you host. You could host 1k+ domains if they was just simple sites, or just the 1 if it was intense.

Originally posted by rey

But if you're like me, I will upgrade it today just in case. It's always nice to have bigger memory.

Reyner


Joke: This attitude led to the dot.com crisis :D ;) :stickout

It depends on whether they use http or cgi.

I was on a raq (400MHz) with 300 users and it was sluggish. You should be about to host 500 average http sites on the XP.

But having lots of cgi will slow things down.

Perhaps another way of asking this question is, "How much bandwidth can that server handle?" I almost posted this question. I have never used those servers, but am curious/intrigued.

It comes with 400 G bandwidth. How many Gigs of bw can it handle, in your opinion?

How about a dual P3 1000 GHz, with 1 G RAM? In your opinion, how much could it handle, without it being too much for the server?

I am trying to decide if 400 G is great because you have all that bw to use, or if it is a waste because the server will not handle it.

Don't take this the wrong way. I am not questioning anyone's reputation. I have great respect for RS. Take this for what it is...a webhost that would genuinely like to know. The price/bw is very appealing, but I have never used that kind of bandwidth on one server.

-Lamar

Bandwidth is not a messure to this.
I hosted a forum with only 80 GB/month of traffic, in a P III 933, 512 MB RAM, and the server couldn't handle, too much resource intensive.
Also, I hosted 40 Sites in a box using 800 GB month and the server just work fine.

It depend of what your users do with their sites :)

Thanks Jedito. Maybe I should re-phrase. I'm kind of tired right now.

I am thinking of load. What kind of load values are typical for 400 G transfer with this server? I am asking for personal experience, as I know that hypothetically this could vary. Just as a meter for my (very tired) mind to think about, what do you usually see as an average server load for 400 G transfer in regard to these servers? For instance, right now I am looking at the stats for a server having ~350 sites on it. About 275 G for in and out. Load Averages 1.01 0.77 0.85

800 G of transfer through one server? Impressive. What is that for...downloads of files? I can't see there being a lot of cgi/scripts in that.:)

The server pushing 800 GB was a dual P III with 2 GB RAM, and the load was generally below to 1.
We hosted a huge porn site, that site alone eat 600 GB with only plain htmls, of course that I had to tune Apache, but not too much :).

we read a post on this forum about a year ago, a host had over 1200 sites on a box with 1ghz

frankly static sites that arent busy are cherries, and for us, provide the best return.

you may want to consider the above, we did, stopped selling high transfer accounts and it made a world of difference.

on the other side of the coin it is tempting to offer 10g+500mb for $12.99/month and HOPE nobody uses the resources, you could get slaughtered by this however.

look at site5 they are very smart with their packages and business saavy, many of us wish we had their success.


dos centavos

Definitely dependent on sites that are hosted. You can host 1k sites if each has 1 to 2 simple pages. Again, if it uses CGI & mysql constantly I'd say 100-200. You'd have to gauge your server & upgrade when necessary. My .02.

the server will not slow down. But it depends on the bandwith and the space available.
You can host 2000+ members easily with that ram, but if you get more than that, you must upgrade to 1 GB or so.
Maybe you have heared of a free host http://l33t.ca . They hosted 800 members on a Cable connection, with ...
800 mhz processor, and 512 mb ram without any problems, but when it got to 1500 they got extremely slow bcs of the cable connection.
They upgraded to an OC-3 connection, so they were reliable once again. Then there was ram problem soon as they got 4000 members. So they upgraded their ram to 768 Mb and they are running good. But get the module they are giving, that will reduce your memory usage.
If some script is using 60mb memory it will use 2 mb. The module they are providing is really great, there are 2 great programmers who worked on that site. And their account manager, which is better than most control panels is coded by themselves.
I wish i would be a coder a like them :rolleyes:

I have to agree with most posters. It is literally impossible to know how many accounts you can have. We run servers with dual PIIIs and at least 1 GB of RAM and we have one server that with only 180 accounts is pretty loaded, on the other hand we have servers that have upwards of 300 accounts and can still take more!

Bandwidth is the same issue, as Jorge said if the bandwidth is being used for a bulletin board or other dynamic site then the server will break before it can push 100 GB, on the other hand if the bandwidth is being used for simply http sites and downloading files, you can probably push 500 or more GB. If I were you, I would just plan on hosting 200 accounts not more. If you realize that your sites are not that resource intensive, great, however it is always best to make plans based on realistic figures.