Hello,

we are pround to offer best prices on market.

* No Installation Fee.
* No Tax Surcharge.
* No Contract Required.
* No Push / Pull Restrictions.
* No router / switch needed.
* Free Rack Space - 1U.
* Free Remote Reboot - 1 APC device.
* Free IPs
* Unrestricted Contents (adult materials welcome).
* Full 100Mbps or packages start from 20Mbps

Email me for details price info.


Regards,


Peter
peter@westmaster.com
http://westmaster.com
tel: 413.618.4217

Wow nice prices. Are you guys a datacenter? Give us some info on your company or the company you are selling this for.

Is it possible to have DS3's run to your location? Where are you located? Full duplex correct?

Very nice price.

We outsource data center in CA San Francisco. To rent a server from us or send colo is possible, packages starts from 20Mbps. Info about company you can find at westmaster.com, connection is Full duplex.

Geez.... I felt physically elated when I saw that price. Good work negotiating!! You have a strong future ahead of you if you keep this kind of thing going. :)

BTW... is it level3 only... or is there a fallback carrier should there be a problem?

yes there is a back up line, all major ISPs are located there.

Do you have an IP address we can traceroute to? From tracing to your domain name, it looks like it went over to Europe.

traceroute to westmaster.com (195.39.16.44), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 66.154.85.1 (66.154.85.1) 0.292 ms 0.260 ms 0.204 ms
2 core1-atl1-gw1.globalcompass.com (66.154.95.193) 0.601 ms 0.494 ms 0.355 ms
3 ge-1-1-0.BLW03.MarGA.mariettafiber.net (216.235.146.253) 2.367 ms 2.149 ms 2.114 ms
4 border4.p4-0.mariet-2.acs.pnap.net (64.94.3.97) 3.290 ms 3.052 ms 3.108 ms
5 core2.fe0-0-bbnet1.acs.pnap.net (64.94.0.2) 3.681 ms 3.575 ms 3.317 ms
6 POS2-2.GW4.ATL3.ALTER.NET (157.130.89.89) 3.610 ms 3.759 ms 3.826 ms
7 147.at-2-1-0.XL4.ATL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.81.62) 5.191 ms 4.731 ms 5.327 ms
8 0.so-1-0-0.XL2.ATL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.86.101) 5.367 ms 4.529 ms 4.993 ms
9 0.so-3-0-0.TL2.ATL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.101.53) 5.013 ms 4.481 ms 5.141 ms
10 0.so-1-1-0.TL2.NYC8.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.158) 28.111 ms 28.226 ms 28.339 ms
11 0.so-2-0-0.XL2.NYC8.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.186) 27.952 ms 28.333 ms 28.028 ms
12 POS7-0.BR3.NYC8.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.125) 28.009 ms 28.014 ms 27.827 ms
13 204.255.169.142 (204.255.169.142) 28.354 ms 28.394 ms 28.347 ms
14 usnyk405-tc-r14-0.ebone.net (213.174.69.163) 28.297 ms 29.719 ms 28.423 ms
15 frpar309-tc-p3-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.137) 103.157 ms 103.882 ms 102.906 ms
16 frpar308-tc-p4-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.141) 102.997 ms 103.228 ms 103.031 ms
17 defra229-tc-p3-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.213) 114.379 ms 113.718 ms 114.022 ms
18 defra228-tc-p5-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.21) 114.772 ms 114.236 ms 114.695 ms
19 dedus206-tc-p5-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.129) 112.188 ms 111.970 ms 112.688 ms
20 debln301-tc-p4-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.42) 118.862 ms 118.759 ms 118.961 ms
21 debln302-tc-p1-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.38) 119.223 ms 118.963 ms 118.657 ms
22 czpra103-tc-p1-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.46) 128.906 ms 128.963 ms 128.786 ms
23 213.174.68.157 (213.174.68.157) 128.229 ms 128.667 ms 128.849 ms
24 ns1.westmaster.com (195.39.16.44) 128.662 ms 129.113 ms 129.293 ms

Originally posted by jkehe
Do you have an IP address we can traceroute to? From tracing to your domain name, it looks like it went over to Europe.

traceroute to westmaster.com (195.39.16.44), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 66.154.85.1 (66.154.85.1) 0.292 ms 0.260 ms 0.204 ms
2 core1-atl1-gw1.globalcompass.com (66.154.95.193) 0.601 ms 0.494 ms 0.355 ms
3 ge-1-1-0.BLW03.MarGA.mariettafiber.net (216.235.146.253) 2.367 ms 2.149 ms 2.114 ms
4 border4.p4-0.mariet-2.acs.pnap.net (64.94.3.97) 3.290 ms 3.052 ms 3.108 ms
5 core2.fe0-0-bbnet1.acs.pnap.net (64.94.0.2) 3.681 ms 3.575 ms 3.317 ms
6 POS2-2.GW4.ATL3.ALTER.NET (157.130.89.89) 3.610 ms 3.759 ms 3.826 ms
7 147.at-2-1-0.XL4.ATL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.81.62) 5.191 ms 4.731 ms 5.327 ms
8 0.so-1-0-0.XL2.ATL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.86.101) 5.367 ms 4.529 ms 4.993 ms
9 0.so-3-0-0.TL2.ATL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.101.53) 5.013 ms 4.481 ms 5.141 ms
10 0.so-1-1-0.TL2.NYC8.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.158) 28.111 ms 28.226 ms 28.339 ms
11 0.so-2-0-0.XL2.NYC8.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.186) 27.952 ms 28.333 ms 28.028 ms
12 POS7-0.BR3.NYC8.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.125) 28.009 ms 28.014 ms 27.827 ms
13 204.255.169.142 (204.255.169.142) 28.354 ms 28.394 ms 28.347 ms
14 usnyk405-tc-r14-0.ebone.net (213.174.69.163) 28.297 ms 29.719 ms 28.423 ms
15 frpar309-tc-p3-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.137) 103.157 ms 103.882 ms 102.906 ms
16 frpar308-tc-p4-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.141) 102.997 ms 103.228 ms 103.031 ms
17 defra229-tc-p3-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.213) 114.379 ms 113.718 ms 114.022 ms
18 defra228-tc-p5-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.21) 114.772 ms 114.236 ms 114.695 ms
19 dedus206-tc-p5-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.129) 112.188 ms 111.970 ms 112.688 ms
20 debln301-tc-p4-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.42) 118.862 ms 118.759 ms 118.961 ms
21 debln302-tc-p1-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.38) 119.223 ms 118.963 ms 118.657 ms
22 czpra103-tc-p1-0.ebone.net (213.174.70.46) 128.906 ms 128.963 ms 128.786 ms
23 213.174.68.157 (213.174.68.157) 128.229 ms 128.667 ms 128.849 ms
24 ns1.westmaster.com (195.39.16.44) 128.662 ms 129.113 ms 129.293 ms

We outsource data center in CA San Francisco. To rent a server from us or send colo is possible, packages starts from 20Mbps. Info about company you can find at westmaster.com, connection is Full duplex.

he posted that if you look up.....

Originally posted by Dilhole
he posted that if you look up.....

Yeah, I know. I was asking for an IP address inside of that data center.

Originally posted by jkehe


Yeah, I know. I was asking for an IP address inside of that data center.

Sorry read it wrong ;)

IP would be good to run trace/ping on.

our main site is not hosted there, we host it with our other customers servers in our EU facility, US colo center IP is 64.32.29.1

64.32.29.1 is a cogent ip not a l3 ip.

.....
8 so-3-0-0.mp1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (64.159.1.125) 91.303 ms 91.631 ms 91.959 ms
9 pos8-0.core2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (209.247.10.198) 91.954 ms 91.046 ms 91.424 ms
10 gige6-2.ipcolo1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (209.244.10.186) 91.183 ms 95.099 ms 91.254 ms
11 64.32.29.1 (64.32.29.1) 94.610 ms 94.006 ms 93.746 ms
.....

.....
4 p4-0.core01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.77) 2.993 ms 3.092 ms 2.963 ms
5 g49.ba01.b001200-2.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.226) 3.212 ms 4.369 ms 3.571 ms
6 64.32.29.1 (64.32.29.1) 3.302 ms 3.275 ms 3.425 ms
.....


SanFrancisco? Looks like LosAngeles, couple hundred miles off.

Originally posted by jayglate
64.32.29.1 is a cogent ip not a l3 ip.

No. It is not a Cogent IP, but they do appear to have Cogent connectivity. The IP space is owned by:

root@vger [~]# whois 64.32.29.1@whois.arin.net
[whois.arin.net]
Relay Point, Inc. (NETBLK-RELAYPOINT01)
PO Box 9946
Glendale, CA 91226
US

Netname: RELAYPOINT01
Netblock: 64.32.0.0 - 64.32.63.255
Maintainer: RLYP

Coordinator:
Destafeno, Douglas (DD177-ARIN) doug2@relaypoint.net
323-769-1220 (FAX) 213 663-9137

Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

NS1.RELAYPOINT.NET 206.170.248.251
NS2.RELAYPOINT.NET 207.213.114.251

ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE

Record last updated on 06-Feb-2001.
Database last updated on 17-Mar-2002 19:57:32 EDT.

Look like they route some traffic through cogent and some through level3.

Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
1 0 0 0 216.191.147.1 -
2 0 0 0 216.191.195.33 solutions-sherweb.p2p.attcanada.ca
3 16 0 0 216.191.67.21 core2-tor-pos5-2.bb.attcanada.ca
4 15 16 0 216.191.65.243 gwy1-tor-srp2-0.bb.attcanada.ca
5 16 16 31 12.125.142.5 -
6 343 47 16 12.123.5.218 gbr5-p80.cgcil.ip.att.net
7 16 15 32 12.122.11.57 tbr2-p013501.cgcil.ip.att.net
8 15 16 16 12.122.11.210 ggr1-p3100.cgcil.ip.att.net
9 0 31 0 209.0.225.9 pos6-0.core1.chicago1.level3.net
10 16 16 0 209.247.10.169 so-4-0-0.mp2.chicago1.level3.net
11 94 78 94 64.159.1.126 so-3-0-0.mp2.losangeles1.level3.net
12 94 78 94 209.247.10.206 pos9-0.core2.losangeles1.level3.net
13 94 94 78 209.244.10.186 gige6-2.ipcolo1.losangeles1.level3.net
14 78 63 78 64.32.29.1 64.32.29.1

Trace complete

Strange, we will ask our connectivity deliver

So connectivity consist of Level 3 and Congent lines, the best title for this thread is level3/congent traffic as low as $50/Mbps

looks somehow the same to me ...

3 HH-gw2.HH.net.DTAG.DE (194.25.7.47) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
4 HH-gw13.HH.NET.DTAG.DE (212.185.9.195) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
5 Vienna-gw12.USA.net.DTAG.DE (194.25.6.38) 82 ms 82 ms 82 ms
6 serial3-0-7.core1.Washington1.Level3.net (209.0.227.113) 83 ms 83 ms 82 ms
7 ae0-56.mp2.Washington1.Level3.net (64.159.18.162) 83 ms 83 ms 83 ms
8 so-2-0-0.mp2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (64.159.0.249) 147 ms 147 ms 147 ms
9 pos9-0.core2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (209.247.10.206) 147 ms 147 ms 147 ms
10 gige6-2.ipcolo1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (209.244.10.186) 147 ms 147 ms 147 ms
11 64.32.29.1 (64.32.29.1) 160 ms 160 ms 160 ms

but another trace looks like this:

4 linx-1.lhr1.above.net (195.66.224.76) 7.330 ms 7.267 ms 7.205 ms
5 core1-lhr1-stm16.lhr3.above.net (208.184.231.174) 13.707 ms 13.801 ms 13.640 ms
6 dca2-lhr3-stm64.dca2.above.net (64.125.31.186) 85.657 ms 86.062 ms 85.695 ms
7 sjc2-dca2-oc48.sjc2.above.net (208.184.233.133) 152.543 ms 152.422 ms 152.409 ms
8 pao1-sjc2-oc48.pao1.above.net (208.184.233.142) 153.482 ms 153.246 ms 152.889 ms
9 core2-core1-oc48.pao1.above.net (208.184.232.182) 153.829 ms 153.064 ms 153.052 ms
10 64.124.11.181.cogentco.com (64.124.11.181) 154.152 ms 154.136 ms pao1-sjc2-oc48-2.pao1.above.net (208.185.175.162) 154.683 ms
11 64.124.11.181.cogentco.com (64.124.11.181) 155.471 ms 154.900 ms 154.599 ms
12 p4-0.core01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.94) 155.923 ms * 155.838 ms
13 p13-0.core01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.73) 176.426 ms 167.271 ms 167.614 ms
14 g49.ba01.b001200-2.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.226) 167.276 ms 167.306 ms 167.552 ms
15 64.32.29.1 (64.32.29.1) 167.765 ms 167.895 ms 170.625 ms

Although it may be possible (anything is these days), I have a relative who works for Level3 at the executive level, and doubts that this is Level3 only bandwidth.
According to him, pricing is in the 90-150 range for 100M depending on what kind of salesperson you get and the potential they see with your company.

At $50 per M, you have to assume they are making a profit, and the only provider that I know you can do this with is Cogent.

Has anyone else out there got this kind of pricing from Level3?

Originally posted by emoore
Although it may be possible (anything is these days), I have a relative who works for Level3 at the executive level, and doubts that this is Level3 only bandwidth.
According to him, pricing is in the 90-150 range for 100M depending on what kind of salesperson you get and the potential they see with your company.

At $50 per M, you have to assume they are making a profit, and the only provider that I know you can do this with is Cogent.

Has anyone else out there got this kind of pricing from Level3?

I didnt even get that low of pricing. I was told 180per Mbit for 200Mbit of bandwidth and this was 3 weeks ago.

I figured nobody else has that price.

BTW, I think your pricing is a little high. You might want to shop around a bit on that one.

Originally posted by emoore
I figured nobody else has that price.

BTW, I think your pricing is a little high. You might want to shop around a bit on that one.

Yes it is high compared to other tier1 providers I have quotes from for the same amount of bw.

Originally posted by emoore
According to him, pricing is in the 90-150 range for 100M depending on what kind of salesperson you get and the potential they see with your company.

Any one know a good Level3 sales person I can contact about getting similar pricing?

Remember to get a competitive price from Level3, you must first fill out a NDA and Credit App. This is their new procedure to quote you anything outside of rack pricing.